Removing fan leaves during flowering

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raqqball6

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I saw a pseudo post about cutting off all of the leaves and buds to increase bud production and I thought it was pretty great. I was wondering what success people have found with removing fan leaves during flowering, what percentage of the leaves they removed, and when they removed the leaves. Any opinions on this would be helpful
 
BenFranklin

BenFranklin

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Cutting off all the leaves and buds....... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Will lead younto even more bigger buds!!! LOLOLOLOLOL!


All I can say is.. "Get r Dum!"
 
LetsGetCritical

LetsGetCritical

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cut em all off I tell ya, leaves, buds(?) even the stems, its all pointless anyway all you want is the buds. Fuck all that other useless shit.
 
neo12345

neo12345

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raqqball6 said:
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No doubt you will have lot's of opinions forced on you any minute as to why you shouldn't defoliate.

I will say though don't defoliate in flowering if you haven't defoliated the plant before hand during veg, as you will likely delay flowering and stunt their growth. Feel free to join the discussion about defoliation in the Grow Journal Discussion section on this forum, there you can ask people who have actually tried this technique.
 
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raqqball6

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Thanks for the advice neo12345, I did some trimming during veg, but on my mkage plant there are big fan leaves blocking the lower buds so wasn't sure if I should remove them
 
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candleguy

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You will get many different views on this subject, it is known as defoliation. I have done much reading on This subjects and watched many grow journals where this technique has been highly successful. But then again scrog seems amazing to.

But the general feeling I get on this forum is its a bad idea, best of doing your own research and making up your own mind imo
 
Doer

Doer

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LetsGetCritical said:
cut em all off I tell ya, leaves, buds(?) even the stems, its all pointless anyway all you want is the buds. Fuck all that other useless shit.
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I just cut the buds off as soon as they begin to form. Who needs the rest of the plant? :)

Really, this is an idea of pruning. Forget all that lollypoping or de-foliating. Just cannabis BS.

It does matter, but what does it matter for? Lot's of myth. I am running some tests. What else can I do?

I'm not going to listen to dog bark pot heads. :) I want science.

Why do we prune? Why does anyone prune any producing plant?

1- good clones for next time.
2- keep the center of the bush clear for air flow
3- keep branching out in Veg

I don't think any thing else is real.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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neo12345

neo12345

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raqqball6 said:
Thanks for the advice neo12345, I did some trimming during veg, but on my mkage plant there are big fan leaves blocking the lower buds so wasn't sure if I should remove them
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The odd leaf here or there to uncover budsites shouldn't make any difference, just go slowly and take a few at a time. There is also the option of tucking them out of the way, but you just have to find the best method for you.
 
Doer

Doer

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raqqball6 said:
Thanks for the advice neo12345, I did some trimming during veg, but on my mkage plant there are big fan leaves blocking the lower buds so wasn't sure if I should remove them
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Well. NOoooooooooo....

That is a myth. The entire plant is an organism. It take in what it needs and distributes it. So, don't take Fan Leaves. Take the entire branch. That releases the pressure problem for the plant, maintaining that branch. Just pulling leaves is like cutting out light.

The only differnce here is the lower buds form later and grow slower. They are less mature. So...do a double harvest. Take the top half and give it a couple of more weeks.

All pruning deceases yield. And the only thing light has to do with individual parts, is tricomes won't produce in shade.

I can see that in my side light experiments. A big deal I see now.

I have some colas that are OK, but the sides facing the one 150w cfl I have now, are more sugary.

Total light on the plant grows the buds everywhere, but individual buds need a lot of illumination to produce big meds.

Taking just the leaves does the opposite of what we want, I think.
 
BenFranklin

BenFranklin

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neo12345 said:
Chuck Estevez is a 6'4" bronzed stud muffin, who is hung like a donkey.
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Odd... Somehow i believe that!

trimming is such a controversy, i can't be botherd with serious conversation about it, as sometimes i trim, sometimes i do not.... Sometimes i see benfits, and sometimes not...

It just depends on what YOUR situation is.
 
LetsGetCritical

LetsGetCritical

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newbies should try to maintain an even canopy- scrog, mainline ect rather than hack plants leaves off. this is my opinion and at 1:37am I may just be talking shite
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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according to the square inverse law, it states that light fades directly in relation to how far you get from the light source.. at one foot, you're only getting half of the light as you would at the light source..
so, according to the square inverse law, if you chop off the leaves at the top of the plant, the leaves only one foot lower will only ever receive 1/2 the light as the leaves at the top of the canopy.. so, but cutting off the top leaves in an attempt to get more light at the bottom of the plant, at only one foot all that light is only going to be half as strong as it was for the leaves you just cut off... two feet and it's only 1/4 the light strength, so on and so on..
so to sum it up again.. the leaves at the top of the plant, the ones that are closest to the source of the light, are getting the strongest light for the entire plant, therefore doing the most work for the plant creating sugars and food via photosynthesis. simple raelly..
 
BenFranklin

BenFranklin

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I disagree a little racerboy.... I believe that the leaves closest to the light do not have to work as hard, as they are getting the majority of their needs met and are doing their job. The middle growth, work harder to produce less material, because not all of their needs are met.

Which begs the question, why cut off bottom leaves if they are blocking nothing?

Try this experiment.....

leave all the bottom leaves, now trim every leaf that grows after that.. Not the growing tips.... Just the leaf...

Do those bottom leaves feed the entire plant?

Nope...

Leaves are relevant to their locality on the plant.
 
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