Coastalnugs
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Sorry , no more time to play in the sandbox . I've got work to do !
Properly made BHO in RI
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Sorry , no more time to play in the sandbox . I've got work to do !
Coastalnugs
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Wavegem ,
I'm not wasting my money at kyg for testing . I will post pix like I offered before . In a thread with a poll , each of us post 2 bud pix and 2 of bho . Loser never posts in this forum again . Your gear is so good , should be tit for you to win !
I'm not wasting my money at kyg for testing . I will post pix like I offered before . In a thread with a poll , each of us post 2 bud pix and 2 of bho . Loser never posts in this forum again . Your gear is so good , should be tit for you to win !
Wavegem
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Exactly... I have over 30 tests done I have photo albums full of pictures. You guys are losers who wannabe cool, probably started growing last year. Attacking someone who you obviously know had been doing it for longer. Just to get a little ego boost from this site is pretty pathetic.
Wavegem
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Know you grow is not a waste. That's how I found all my phenos. You have to know what you are doing and how to use them. Like I said before I hit around 30% total cannabinoids which I know is difficult. At the time I broke the record. I broke the record by 5 % points. Good luck, it will take you years to even come close to that number. At least you have something to look up too lol
Wavegem
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Just waking up laying in bed and loving life my rooms just flipped gonna go roll a fatty and water some plants.
Coastalnugs
Member
Heh , would that be a year after you started growing ? I'd even guess that your and only child and subsisted for years on the trust fund daddy started for you . Are you also a trustafarian that spent your days following Phish?
Wavegem
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Dude what's your deal? I paid for everything I just bought a new truck my bills are more than you make in a year. You don't know shit about growing with comments you make stupid fuck. Nobody even likes you here and all you do is hate. Your life is pretty sad. Actually try pulling more weight on trees you will see I am doing quite well
i have been growing since 2005 bitch again all you do is hate, you don't know me
again I am 1 of 4 and am more productive in one day than you are all week.
have some respect for your elders and stop BLOWING up my thread
i have been growing since 2005 bitch again all you do is hate, you don't know me
again I am 1 of 4 and am more productive in one day than you are all week.
have some respect for your elders and stop BLOWING up my thread
Coastalnugs
Member
My deal,is I'm tired of listening to someone constantly brag . I start a thread about changes to the MM law . You come in post bs bagging , etc .....
Stupid fuck , bitch .... Your maturity shines through wavegem !
You have been at for 9 years and still only get a pound per 1k of light ? Seems you should stop blabbing and bragging and start listening more .....
If all i do is hate , all you do is brag . Heh , I even had members pm me asking what your problem is ? Wondering why your so hateful against slater and myself ?
Also for the record I do yield a lot more then 1lb per 1k with my trees ! Hell even a newb does better then 1lb per 1k of light .......
Stupid fuck , bitch .... Your maturity shines through wavegem !
You have been at for 9 years and still only get a pound per 1k of light ? Seems you should stop blabbing and bragging and start listening more .....
If all i do is hate , all you do is brag . Heh , I even had members pm me asking what your problem is ? Wondering why your so hateful against slater and myself ?
Also for the record I do yield a lot more then 1lb per 1k with my trees ! Hell even a newb does better then 1lb per 1k of light .......
smokecat
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You are famous? Dude I don't know you. Never seen your picture in the paper, but send me a link. I have no real problem with you. I'm just pointing out that you don't know everything.
Dabs might be the shit. I don't like them and I like my lungs. Your shit looks clean, just not my style. Makes people cranky and I'm a chill dude. Good luck.
Thundercat
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The only part of all this silliness I'm gonna comment on is the terpenes.
I love dabs, and everyone that dabs my qwiso has told me its some of the best oil they have EVER had! Now I'm not saying my oil is better then you guys.....what I'm saying is this. When making my oil I do my very best not to loose any terps. I take the extra time to evap my qwiso without heat so that I don't evap the terpenes with the alcohol. Terpenes have so much to do with the high, and the healing. For me though they are also the biggest difference between my weed or oil and the next. I don't have test results for my gear yet, but I don't really need them to know what I produce. The reaction I get from every person that sees/smokes it tells me everything I need to know. Sadly I'm not in a med state, so they never get to know it is mine they are enjoying but I still enjoy knowing
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I actually havn't had a dab in almost 2 weeks cus I've been out of town. I might take a few more weeks off. I just got a few new flower bowls on my trip and wanna break them in real good. Gotta activate all this pretty fuming and see what colors they turn! Enjoying some delicious blue thai out of a new mushroom atm.
I love dabs, and everyone that dabs my qwiso has told me its some of the best oil they have EVER had! Now I'm not saying my oil is better then you guys.....what I'm saying is this. When making my oil I do my very best not to loose any terps. I take the extra time to evap my qwiso without heat so that I don't evap the terpenes with the alcohol. Terpenes have so much to do with the high, and the healing. For me though they are also the biggest difference between my weed or oil and the next. I don't have test results for my gear yet, but I don't really need them to know what I produce. The reaction I get from every person that sees/smokes it tells me everything I need to know. Sadly I'm not in a med state, so they never get to know it is mine they are enjoying but I still enjoy knowing
. I actually havn't had a dab in almost 2 weeks cus I've been out of town. I might take a few more weeks off. I just got a few new flower bowls on my trip and wanna break them in real good
. Gotta activate all this pretty fuming and see what colors they turn! Enjoying some delicious blue thai out of a new mushroom atm.
Wavegem
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The only part of all this silliness I'm gonna comment on is the terpenes.
I love dabs, and everyone that dabs my qwiso has told me its some of the best oil they have EVER had! Now I'm not saying my oil is better then you guys.....what I'm saying is this. When making my oil I do my very best not to loose any terps. I take the extra time to evap my qwiso without heat so that I don't evap the terpenes with the alcohol. Terpenes have so much to do with the high, and the healing. For me though they are also the biggest difference between my weed or oil and the next. I don't have test results for my gear yet, but I don't really need them to know what I produce. The reaction I get from every person that sees/smokes it tells me everything I need to know. Sadly I'm not in a med state, so they never get to know it is mine they are enjoying but I still enjoy knowing
I actually havn't had a dab in almost 2 weeks cus I've been out of town. I might take a few more weeks off. I just got a few new flower bowls on my trip and wanna break them in real good
Not to start anything but I would use butane. ISO has a much higher boiling point like 4 times greater than butane. So for terpenes alone butane is better. I will say that when I winterize most of the terpenes and wax are gone but the oil is so potent it doesn't even come close to other less refined product no matter how many terpenes. I like tweaking so I will take huge dabs.
I hate on people or places that deserve it. Dude was on here talking about bc bud depot Girl Scout making 250,000 beans to get rich. Idiot
slater promised a whole lot that never followed through taking advantage of everybody and anybody walking through that door. I know these people personally and they are douchebags.
people that bring no facts and just type bs I don't stand for that crap and will call you out.
FACT pictures will tell you everything you need to know.
FACT know your grow tests work and are not pointless, but they can be altered and used for marketing. everybody should get tests done on their products no matter how good you think it is.
Thundercat
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Your not starting anything because I'm not gonna get into that arguement, I don't boil my dabs so that has nothing to do with it. My dabs are clean, tasty, and potent. The only time I've had dabs that came close was at the cannabis cup last year in denver, and not even all of those were that good(my fav still was the big buddha rock diesel CO2 extract). I'm sure your dabs are on par with cup dabs man, but don't assume mine aren't because I use a different method.
Wavegem
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I am just saying based on boiling point it's science. I am tired of fucking opinions man they are like assholes everybody has one. You dabbing and seeing how high you get or how clean it is doesn't say anything at all. There are measurement tools that prove facts. You can swear this car is louder than that but the meter doesn't lie
Thundercat
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I don't understand what the boiling point of the alcohol vs butane has anything to do with it. If all the alcohol is evap'd out, it is a clean product. If all the butane gets purged out it is clean. I'm not sure what your yelling and screaming about. If I could easily get my stuff tested I would, but I don't live someplace that its easily available.
Are you wanting me to test it to verify its clean, or to see what cannabinoid results I get? I'm certain once I can get some test results that it will prove my belief that my dabs are clean. As far as THC results, most of that is based on the starting material. I grow some pretty dank buds so I'm sure I'd get good results from a test. I would love to know what they actually rate at, but I know for a fact there are a ton of people pulling higher numbers.
Yours is probably stronger man, I'm not claiming mine is better, I'm just saying its different then yours. This attitude you have that you need to prove yours is the strongest, and tell everyone else how they are doing it wrong is what those other guys were bitching about, not your growing or extracting abillities. I hope you have fun being the best, its a lonely spot being on top. Science is definitely the only way to get a complete picture, but opinions sure mean alot. You might have the highest percent flowers or dabs all day long, but if someone else has stuff that tastes way better and is almost as strong I'll take the better tasting any day.
Are you wanting me to test it to verify its clean, or to see what cannabinoid results I get? I'm certain once I can get some test results that it will prove my belief that my dabs are clean. As far as THC results, most of that is based on the starting material. I grow some pretty dank buds so I'm sure I'd get good results from a test. I would love to know what they actually rate at, but I know for a fact there are a ton of people pulling higher numbers.
Yours is probably stronger man, I'm not claiming mine is better, I'm just saying its different then yours. This attitude you have that you need to prove yours is the strongest, and tell everyone else how they are doing it wrong is what those other guys were bitching about, not your growing or extracting abillities. I hope you have fun being the best, its a lonely spot being on top. Science is definitely the only way to get a complete picture, but opinions sure mean alot. You might have the highest percent flowers or dabs all day long, but if someone else has stuff that tastes way better and is almost as strong I'll take the better tasting any day.
Wavegem
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I am not trying to say what's better than what. I never said yours is bad or mine is good. Boiling point has everything to do with it. You can purge butane at a colder temperature rather than alcohol that's it. You preserve more terpenes with butane and a cleaner purge. I am just trying to help and throw up knowledge not compete. Sorry if I come off like that. I can try and explain more if you like
Thundercat
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I appreciate you saying that and clarifying. I wasn't trying to compete either.
Thundercat
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What temp do you purge at? My solution never goes over 90 degrees unless its over 90 outside. I use strong moving very dry(dehumidifier exhaust) to evap my dishes which are otherwise never above room temp.
Wavegem
Active Member
Why is it better to purge meaning throw in the vac oven immediately rather than let it sit cool dry for some time then throw in the oven?
It's all about facilitation never coming to a stop.
If you let the blast sit and cool it freezes up, waxes start to clump and your oil will absorb the moisture in the atmosphere over time or the opposite if it's dry. Meaning the atmosphere is sucking the moisture out of the product. When you purge it's important from beginning to end to facilitate the bubbling so you don't end up freezing it up or locking everything in.
For example with butane you blast and it puddles and starts bubbling immediately, with alcohol if you have a puddle you have to add heat or or use a fan/dehumidifier to evap the alcohol. Once it becomes thick enough to scrape with a blade with either butane or alcohol you need to spread it as thin as you can on parchment or non stick pads. Thinner is faster.
What at I am getting to
put that in the oven on low temp with the door cracked. I am running 100 to start. Let it sit... until you see even reaction because it's heated evenly. Then pull the vac to -29.5 hg exactly at 100 Fahrenheit. Manually running the pump and temp this is what you have to do. Look for movement right when you hit -29.5 hg at 100 when it starts to slow up just a tad bump the temp to 100.5, let it sit pull the vac back down to -29.5. Bump the temp up to 101 pull the vac back down. Do this over a 12 hour period ramping temp slowly in .5 increments maxing out at 110 and frequently "popping the pump" to get the full 29.5 hg. DO NOT GO OVER 29.5 hg. Pull it out right when you hit 110.
I have found this to be the best way to preserve a lot of terpenes but removing all the solvents. If you just let it evaporate and become shatter you locked in high ppms of your solvents. You have to facilitate as the solvent leaves the oil the oil becomes thicker which needs to be hotter to purge more. Butane or alcohol fills the vac chamber which reduces your vac which is why you have to keep pulling it back down to -29.5 hg.
If you heat it up to much or whip it and make wax to early you lock in high ppms of your solvent. You have to go through the process above to remove almost everything then add heat and pull the wax through. If your product waxes up without you doing anything you extracted to much wax a fix is doing a very quick wash not extracting the junk. At first the blast comes out gold then clouds up that is all wax. Always freeze your product thoroughly sealed in a bag so your trichome heads don't develop ice on them and run your extraction as cold as possible. If your oil comes out clear or white it has no potency but a lot of flavor. Light gold vibrant is what you are looking for. Harvesting early will have clear heads and harvesting late will have dark heads which effects color, potency and high.
There is a terpene chart floating around from greywolf it states on a graph all the terpenes and their boiling points so you can dial in each strain.
A few other tricks some ovens have a nitrogen port on the back so you can pump a very dry gas into your chamber which adds another level of cleanliness also I heard of people using activated carbon in their extraction column which gives an orange ish hue and also cleans it supposedly. There is so much people are doing right now... Did you know you can add your own terpenes with a co2 extraction?
It's all about facilitation never coming to a stop.
If you let the blast sit and cool it freezes up, waxes start to clump and your oil will absorb the moisture in the atmosphere over time or the opposite if it's dry. Meaning the atmosphere is sucking the moisture out of the product. When you purge it's important from beginning to end to facilitate the bubbling so you don't end up freezing it up or locking everything in.
For example with butane you blast and it puddles and starts bubbling immediately, with alcohol if you have a puddle you have to add heat or or use a fan/dehumidifier to evap the alcohol. Once it becomes thick enough to scrape with a blade with either butane or alcohol you need to spread it as thin as you can on parchment or non stick pads. Thinner is faster.
What at I am getting to
put that in the oven on low temp with the door cracked. I am running 100 to start. Let it sit... until you see even reaction because it's heated evenly. Then pull the vac to -29.5 hg exactly at 100 Fahrenheit. Manually running the pump and temp this is what you have to do. Look for movement right when you hit -29.5 hg at 100 when it starts to slow up just a tad bump the temp to 100.5, let it sit pull the vac back down to -29.5. Bump the temp up to 101 pull the vac back down. Do this over a 12 hour period ramping temp slowly in .5 increments maxing out at 110 and frequently "popping the pump" to get the full 29.5 hg. DO NOT GO OVER 29.5 hg. Pull it out right when you hit 110.
I have found this to be the best way to preserve a lot of terpenes but removing all the solvents. If you just let it evaporate and become shatter you locked in high ppms of your solvents. You have to facilitate as the solvent leaves the oil the oil becomes thicker which needs to be hotter to purge more. Butane or alcohol fills the vac chamber which reduces your vac which is why you have to keep pulling it back down to -29.5 hg.
If you heat it up to much or whip it and make wax to early you lock in high ppms of your solvent. You have to go through the process above to remove almost everything then add heat and pull the wax through. If your product waxes up without you doing anything you extracted to much wax a fix is doing a very quick wash not extracting the junk. At first the blast comes out gold then clouds up that is all wax. Always freeze your product thoroughly sealed in a bag so your trichome heads don't develop ice on them and run your extraction as cold as possible. If your oil comes out clear or white it has no potency but a lot of flavor. Light gold vibrant is what you are looking for. Harvesting early will have clear heads and harvesting late will have dark heads which effects color, potency and high.
There is a terpene chart floating around from greywolf it states on a graph all the terpenes and their boiling points so you can dial in each strain.
A few other tricks some ovens have a nitrogen port on the back so you can pump a very dry gas into your chamber which adds another level of cleanliness also I heard of people using activated carbon in their extraction column which gives an orange ish hue and also cleans it supposedly. There is so much people are doing right now... Did you know you can add your own terpenes with a co2 extraction?
Thundercat
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I agree with what you posted in regards to purging butane. You seem pretty dead on, alcohol just behaves differently since its not a gas to begin with. I do not ever heat my oil, it damages the terpenes more then I want. I am also not producing OZs I'm typically running 1-2g batchs, I'm sure the whole process has to evolve as you scale it up.