AN or Humbolt Nutrients?

[Jbone77]

Wealthy men do awful shit all the time, so no I don't find it surprising at all, they get away with it far to often due to their money.

I imagine he's still on house arrest if there is no news of his trial, perhaps they have a bogged down legal system there like we do in Canada. I mean they aren't going to just let him go after putting him on house arrest. Not when the girl has injuries. If she didn't have injuries, or something along those lines I would find it fishy, but no one is going to sexually injure a child out of malice I don't believe it.

And as was stated by Chuck, AN was bought out by Big Mike, he's the full owner now. Eugene has been distanced from the company so it's less likely to end up in our headlines then otherwise.

These guys are amazing marketers and PR folks. They are doing everything in their power to disassociate with this guy, there is a reason for that. You don't buy someone out if they didn't do anything wrong, and you actually believe they did nothing wrong. Especially if that person is your friend... and you believe them yadda yadda

Look at the former pinkberry owner he was bought out too due to his heinous shit.

I must have read a different article and saw a different news video, I saw the video where Mike said it was bullshit and had the original medical exam that said the girl was fine and then several hours later she had another exam where it was documented she had been raped, strange. Of course they want to distance themselves from it, what company wouldn't? Him being part of the company or not has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that not 1 single press release has been made in nearly a year.

 

[StanlySpedowski]

GH is a cannabis specific nute? Didn't know that, wish they would quit putting pictures of tomatoes n peppers on the damn bottles then.

Yes, I'd lump GH in with AN, NFTG and HN. Anything that requires you to mix up 8 different bottles and rip you off in the process I consider cannabis specific.

From the GH website:

"GH will always continue to strive for quality, simplicity, innovation, and a sustainable future."

Simplicity would be giving you everything in 1 bottle like DG and many other nutes. If a company is splitting there nutrients into so many different bottles and these complex feeding scheduleds (that dont take in to acct your environment, strain and many other factors) they're trying to rip you off. Why are the nutrients that are designed for fruits/vegetables and other plants so simple?

The back of my jacks classic and dynagro both say basically 1 tsp/gallon once a week or 1/2 tsp with every watering. They've managed to combine all of these nutrients in a single bottle at a fraction of the cost. I would consider that quality/simplicty/innovation and in any other industry they would be the leaders.

The AN website looks like something you'd see for an infomercial product. A bunch of guarantees (that they wont honor) and ridiculous marketing speak that dont really say aything about why the product costs so much more than most nutes.

 

[Jbone77]

Yes, I'd lump GH in with AN, NFTG and HN. Anything that requires you to mix up 8 different bottles and rip you off in the process I consider cannabis specific.

From the GH website:

"GH will always continue to strive for quality, simplicity, innovation, and a sustainable future."

Simplicity would be giving you everything in 1 bottle like DG and many other nutes. If a company is splitting there nutrients into so many different bottles and these complex feeding scheduleds (that dont take in to acct your environment, strain and many other factors) they're trying to rip you off. Why are the nutrients that are designed for fruits/vegetables and other plants so simple?

The back of my jacks classic and dynagro both say basically 1 tsp/gallon once a week or 1/2 tsp with every watering. They've managed to combine all of these nutrients in a single bottle at a fraction of the cost. I would consider that quality/simplicty/innovation and in any other industry they would be the leaders.

The AN website looks like something you'd see for an infomercial product. A bunch of guarantees (that they wont honor) and ridiculous marketing speak that dont really say aything about why the product costs so much more than most nutes.

I think if you say things like "a nute company REQUIRES you to mix 8 different bottles" you should reevaluate your growing ability. Name me one single synthetic nute manufacturer who only offers 1 bottle? They "offer" more shit because dumb assets will buy it. Protekt, magpro, kiln, bullshit, b52, bud factor X, carboload bullshit, floranectar, koolbloom, diamond nectar bullshit, cal/mag entirely is bullshit. A company's goal is to make money, if they can make a 10000% profit buy giving you shit you don't need but will gladly purchase then why wouldn't they? That says a hell of a lot more about the sheepish consumer market then it does about the manufacturer. I have used not 1 single bottle of the "8 required bottles" that you speak of and have had no problems. AN won't honor they're guarantee? Have you tried to get a refund? Why did they tell you they won't give you one? You never tried to get a refund, you are following the sheep and regurgitating what they say. HB went in for a refund, they didn't tell him no.

 

[Jbone77]

Yes, I'd lump GH in with AN, NFTG and HN. Anything that requires you to mix up 8 different bottles and rip you off in the process I consider cannabis specific.

From the GH website:

"GH will always continue to strive for quality, simplicity, innovation, and a sustainable future."

Simplicity would be giving you everything in 1 bottle like DG and many other nutes. If a company is splitting there nutrients into so many different bottles and these complex feeding scheduleds (that dont take in to acct your environment, strain and many other factors) they're trying to rip you off. Why are the nutrients that are designed for fruits/vegetables and other plants so simple?

The back of my jacks classic and dynagro both say basically 1 tsp/gallon once a week or 1/2 tsp with every watering. They've managed to combine all of these nutrients in a single bottle at a fraction of the cost. I would consider that quality/simplicty/innovation and in any other industry they would be the leaders.

The AN website looks like something you'd see for an infomercial product. A bunch of guarantees (that they wont honor) and ridiculous marketing speak that dont really say aything about why the product costs so much more than most nutes.

are you a dirt grower?

 

[Mr.Head]

I must have read a different article and saw a different news video, I saw the video where Mike said it was bullshit and had the original medical exam that said the girl was fine and then several hours later she had another exam where it was documented she had been raped, strange. Of course they want to distance themselves from it, what company wouldn't? Him being part of the company or not has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that not 1 single press release has been made in nearly a year.

5 months is not nearly a year. 5 months is a perfectly reasonable amount of time to wait for a trial which I read was going to take part in the "spring" so that's kind of vague but it should start soon, i imagine his lawyers will delay the shit out of it once it does start, if they can I don't know the Bulgarian legal system at all. Also a lot of countries don't have America's love for show trials, legal proceedings are handled a little more discretely, not saying there wouldn't be news of the verdict, but they certainly don't stalk people with the press until 5 years after the trial has ended like they do in North America (can't put it all on the yanks we're awful for it in Canada too), that's driven by TV viewers more then the legal system.

I think you need to look into Gino's other "work", he's got some nice ties to organized crime in Canada. I'll just say it doesn't paint a picture of a very good person.

I know it's not the same country or even close, but Oscar Pistorious allegedly killed that girl in Fed 2013. His trial just started, there wasn't much heard about Oscar until his trial started again either after the initial reaction that is.

 

[Jbone77]

5 months is not nearly a year. 5 months is a perfectly reasonable amount of time to wait for a trial which I read was going to take part in the "spring" so that's kind of vague but it should start soon, i imagine his lawyers will delay the shit out of it once it does start, if they can I don't know the Bulgarian legal system at all. Also a lot of countries don't have America's love for show trials, legal proceedings are handled a little more discretely, not saying there wouldn't be news of the verdict, but they certainly don't stalk people with the press until 5 years after the trial has ended like they do in North America (can't put it all on the yanks we're awful for it in Canada too), that's driven by TV viewers more then the legal system.

I think you need to look into Gino's other "work", he's got some nice ties to organized crime in Canada. I'll just say it doesn't paint a picture of a very good person.

I know it's not the same country or even close, but Oscar Pistorious allegedly killed that girl in Fed 2013. His trial just started, there wasn't much heard about Oscar until his trial started again either after the initial reaction that is.

I honestly could care less about organized crime, we are posting on a site about seeds we illegally ordered, plants we illegally grow, and bud we illegally put to market, if that by definition isn't organized crime then I don't know what is. Agree with the law or not, doesn't matter, procuring cannabis seed, germinating cannabis seeds, growing cannabis, providing cannabis, and consuming cannabis is a federal crime and we are talking about doing all those things, making it organized crime.

 

[chuck estevez]

I honestly could care less about organized crime, we are posting on a site about seeds we illegally ordered, plants we illegally grow, and bud we illegally put to market, if that by definition isn't organized crime then I don't know what is. Agree with the law or not, doesn't matter, procuring cannabis seed, germinating cannabis seeds, growing cannabis, providing cannabis, and consuming cannabis is a federal crime and we are talking about doing all those things, making it organized crime.

I got my shit pretty organized.lol

 

[Jbone77]

I got my shit pretty organized.lol

Roger that.

 

[BROBIE]

Why would I 'test' their 'second best' nutrient line when their 'premium' Connoisseur shit the bed in hydro? I've seen sensi work but it's watery as f*ck. Two litres wouldn't last me a 9 week flowering cycle in my 16-18 gallon res. I'm not about to spend $85 locally on gallons of plant food I'd likely use only once.

Here's an idea; since you claim to have more space, why don't YOU run a journal comparing the two? I don't know how credible it'd be given your history but at least you'd be contributing.

Hey, did you read my post? Try AN's second best because you have to learn to walk before you can run. Your bloated ego forced you to buy Conn. and you failed.
Try cleaning up your grow area too. A sloppy grow area is indicative of the growers harvest/processing area. I bet you pick your nose when you harvest. Your money will more than be recouped by the better yield and taste btw.

 

[StanlySpedowski]

I think if you say things like "a nute company REQUIRES you to mix 8 different bottles" you should reevaluate your growing ability. Name me one single synthetic nute manufacturer who only offers 1 bottle? They "offer" more shit because dumb assets will buy it. Protekt, magpro, kiln, bullshit, b52, bud factor X, carboload bullshit, floranectar, koolbloom, diamond nectar bullshit, cal/mag entirely is bullshit. A company's goal is to make money, if they can make a 10000% profit buy giving you shit you don't need but will gladly purchase then why wouldn't they? That says a hell of a lot more about the sheepish consumer market then it does about the manufacturer. I have used not 1 single bottle of the "8 required bottles" that you speak of and have had no problems. AN won't honor they're guarantee? Have you tried to get a refund? Why did they tell you they won't give you one? You never tried to get a refund, you are following the sheep and regurgitating what they say. HB went in for a refund, they didn't tell him no.

Obviously you aren't required, but they sure do imply with their feeding schedules that you should use the whole line up of nutes. Why do I need to re-evaluate my growing ability? Im just stating what AN and other similar companies have listed for their schedule. The GH kit I bought came with 8 different bottles and a schedule for all of them.

If you're using AN I wouldn't tell anybody to re-evaluate anything. The nutrients might work for you, but you could accomplish the same thing for a whole lot less money and work.

Dynagro puts all the nutes in 1 bottle. Yes they have grow and bloom and other various formulas, but they all contain NPK and all the micros you need. Not 6 bottles where they divide up the N-P in one P-K in anther, etc...

Why wouldn't they? Cause its dishonest. Just because you can scam people doesn't mean you should in the goal of making the most profit.

 

[homebrewer]

Hey, did you read my post? Try AN's second best because you have to learn to walk before you can run. Your bloated ego forced you to buy Conn. and you failed.
Try cleaning up your grow area too. A sloppy grow area is indicative of the growers harvest/processing area. I bet you pick your nose when you harvest. Your money will more than be recouped by the better yield and taste btw.

What's complicated about adding equal parts of two bottles and feeding at a proven ppm/EC? Are you mad that a plant food made for orchids schooled your over-priced bottles of hype?

 

[homebrewer]

You never tried to get a refund, you are following the sheep and regurgitating what they say. HB went in for a refund, they didn't tell him no.

It should be noted that AN is not the one refunding your money. It's the grow store that decides whether to take back the product or not and they're picky because AN does not fully refund the store for the cost of the product. The grow store does indeed take a hit when your return those bottles. That '100% money back guarantee' is not AN standing behind their bottles, that's AN forcing shops to share liability. Shops of course don't have to comply but then they're at risk of losing a customer here and there that don't JUST buy plant food.

 

[Wavels]

"Caveat Emptor" is worthy of heeding in purchasing "cannabis specific" nutes.

IMHO, there is no need whatsoever to buy into the hype and marketing.
The growers skill set, or lack thereof (as well as other variables, e.g.; lighting, environment, medium etc. are far more important than a particular brand of plant food).

 

[homebrewer]

OK ,what the fuck are you talking about slob. Precisely , whats so hard about it? You seem to fail at it yet others have no problem. You stress simplicity with your crayon one bottle shit yet here you are stating 2 bottles is simple. What the fuck?

Link me to a hydroponic Connoisseur grow.

 

[BROBIE]

Link me to a hydroponic Connoisseur grow.

This is stupid ...... I'm not a connie fan anyway, just sensi

 

[homebrewer]

This is stupid ......

And this is again where you AN folks fail to back up your sh*t talking. Show me where the 'others had no problem' in their hydroponic grows utilizing the same Connoisseur that I used. Better yet, show me where YOU succeeded because all you've shown anyone is how much you'd rather stir sh*t than contribute.

 

[homebrewer]

Yet another one exposed .

 

[BROBIE]

Again, a waste of time. You keep up with your "scientific" basement grows. Have a good lifeless life.

 

[tooteefrootee]

Cause you're not a grand master grower. You dont have the skills to unlock the potential for the connoisseur line. Sensi is for intermediate growers like yourself who dont have the skills to follow such a complex feeding schedule

amen brother....and im not saying or giving myself a grand master title or say im supergrower myself...but what I can say is ive just like many other expert grower...spent years and years refining techniques as well as mastering my strains. homebrewer can definitely grow and harvest, but imho unless you can grow on many spectrums and for years (Hydro,Aero,DWC,NFT, true living organics, compost teas and the list goes on) you are truly a master or advanced grower.

 

[tooteefrootee]

Hey, did you read my post? Try AN's second best because you have to learn to walk before you can run. Your bloated ego forced you to buy Conn. and you failed.
Try cleaning up your grow area too. A sloppy grow area is indicative of the growers harvest/processing area. I bet you pick your nose when you harvest. Your money will more than be recouped by the better yield and taste btw.

lol I seen it too brobie, I wouldn't take a nug from that filthy op for free lol