ACA enrollment numbers

Doer

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With a fine of only 95.00 it's a no brainer that young healthy people wont sign up. Who thought up that shit, the Dems are idiots. If you want something to succeed you don't give the target group a pass, you give them the hammer. I guess the young peoples votes are more important than health care with that tiny fine. I have said all along and all I have heard from the young people that I have been in contact with say they will just pay the fine. I guess the Dems are just that dumb.
But, if your goal was to use govt to crush the insurance industry, this is a good way to do it. DEMS are dumb, PUBS are pussies.

Great game.
 

Doer

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With a fine of only 95.00 it's a no brainer that young healthy people wont sign up. Who thought up that shit, the Dems are idiots. If you want something to succeed you don't give the target group a pass, you give them the hammer. I guess the young peoples votes are more important than health care with that tiny fine. I have said all along and all I have heard from the young people that I have been in contact with say they will just pay the fine. I guess the Dems are just that dumb.
It really looks to me like they do not want it to succeed.
 

nitro harley

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But, if your goal was to use govt to crush the insurance industry, this is a good way to do it. DEMS are dumb, PUBS are pussies.

Great game.
Hey Doer..

I was thinking Dems are Dumb pussies. If we were counting how many pussies are in each group I believe the Dems would win the pussies count...imo
 

UncleBuck

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Hey Doer..

I was thinking Dems are Dumb pussies. If we were counting how many pussies are in each group I believe the Dems would win the pussies count...imo
it sounds like you prefer an orifice other than the pussy.

not that there's anything wrong with that............................................................................
 

BigNBushy

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Here is a simple fact..

If you areyoung and healthy, buying the insurance is a bad deal. If you get sick later, you can just go and buy insurance at that time. The most likely cause of harm, auto accidents, have medical costs in the insurance. If you have auto insurance, full coverage, there isn't a lot of need for it. If you do get hurt, you will be helped at the ER and can buy insurance after for anything you need.

I draw a parallel to auto insurance, with respect to good deal bad deal. I own a car, I paid cash for it, it is worth a little over $4 thousand. I went to get insurance for it, I had a dwi arrest a while back, and even liability was over $100/month. Full coverage was $140 or more.

Due to my recent addiction, I really don't have any assets I need to protect. So, what I've been doing is building a cash reserve. Buying auto insurance would hinder this effort. I now have about $6 thousand dollars saved up. If I get into an accident, I've lost my car, but at $140/month, it wasn't wort protecting. Coverage for a more expensive car wouldn't be much more. Buying car insurance was just a bad deal given my circumstances.

Same with most young people and health insurance. They don't really have much need for it, and the most likely cause of medical treatment, injury, is usually covered in their auto policy, or injuries at work in workers comp insurance.

Other than a law saying you have to have it, there is no good reason for most young people to have health insurance, so many don't, and won't.
 

Doer

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Wait are you saying this is looking more and more like, "free" universal, pay as you go, low cost, instant insurance for all?
 

BigNBushy

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Wait are you saying this is looking more and more like, "free" universal, pay as you go, low cost, instant insurance for all?
Some of those are contradictory.

But there is apparently no penalty for failing to buy insurance until you need health care, then purchasing it for the duration of the need, if it goes away drop the plan, and repeat.

Of course there is the fine that is hanging out there, but no telling how much that's going to be, if it's going to be enforced, and it goes to the government, not the insurance companies so it doesn't help the financial hardship of the insurance companies having to give insurance to the sick.
 

UncleBuck

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Here is a simple fact..

If you areyoung and healthy, buying the insurance is a bad deal. If you get sick later, you can just go and buy insurance at that time.
that's not a fact, that's you ignoring the concept of an enrollment period.

dumbass.
 

the church man

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^^^ this ^^^

There is something similar to a credit score in the health insurance industry but I can't remember the name... All of the health insurance companies can see notes made in this permanent record. Or maybe it drops off after 7 years, can't remember.
 

Doer

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that's not a fact, that's you ignoring the concept of an enrollment period.

dumbass.
No Dumbass, Obama is ignoring the concept of an enrollment period via Executive Order. So when you say, people shouldn't lie in forum,you don't mean that, for yourself?
 

Doer

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Oh look, someone thinks they have a point... We have enrollment periods every year, dip shit.
Well, no. Every year, the President can jack the enrollment periods. He has done that over 20 times, so far. I would say the Privilege is well established.

So, don't back down. You have a valid point. What enrollment period? There isn't one. And this will go on until the fall, so they don't have show what a massive failure the signup numbers are. It is already bankrupt. It is already bankrupting Insurance companies.

It is a scam.
 

UncleBuck

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Well, no. Every year, the President can jack the enrollment periods. He has done that over 20 times, so far. I would say the Privilege is well established.

So, don't back down. You have a valid point. What enrollment period? There isn't one. And this will go on until the fall, so they don't have show what a massive failure the signup numbers are. It is already bankrupt. It is already bankrupting Insurance companies.

It is a scam.
if there are no enrollment periods, then what was i hearing about all day on the radio today?
 

BigNBushy

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if there are no enrollment periods, then what was i hearing about all day on the radio today?
Political buzz.

You honestly think they won't be having people signing up for this in say, 3 months, and touting it as an awesome thing?

Out of the 6 million that have signed up, only folks who had no insurance prior matter. Say only one or two million did. That's still pretty telling.

Out of the remaining, how many of them have paid one single premium yet?

I'm not a rabid ACA opponent, I've got a plan, I'm paying a premium, and I want it to work. I don't know that its a great thing, but it gave me (nominal) health insurance, which is a comforting thought. I've yet to really need it.

But you are so obviously in the tank for this, that you are losing all objectivity (and credibility) on the issue. You've tied the issue to your self worth as an individual, at least in your forum persona.
 

Doer

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if there are no enrollment periods, then what was i hearing about all day on the radio today?
The enrollment periods were jacked since Dec, bonehead. The first quarter from these companies was blow up by the govt.

The employeers still are not enrolled.

You are just stupid about this.
 
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