Yellow Veins???

[Dave017]

I am seeing some yellow veins on my plant mainly on new growth its an Pyramid Auto New York City anyone know what can cause this its 30 days old today. Thanks

Temps - Day 78-82/Night 67-71

PH- Input - 6.6-6.8, Runoff - 6.6-7.0

Light - 1-300 watt led panel/ 3 90 watt UFO's (20 ON/4 OFF)

Soil - LC's Mix # 2 / 4 1/4 gallon pots

Nutrients- General Organics Go Box (minus Bio Marine) fed twice so far week 1 and week 2 at 1/4 strength 2 liters each time

Humidity- 50%-60%

Water - is Non chlorinated straight from well no RO or Water Softener also I make sure to water with 68F water every time so as not to shock them. only water when soil is dry 1 to 2 inches down and when pots feel nice and light.

 

[Shippey123]

I'm not an expert but I read that hard wasn't isn't that great for growing. Also I believe your ph should be somewhere between 5.5-6.0. I'm not positive as to what but they are showing some kind of deficiency.

 

[vostok]

Early nute burn, just monitor for now, or you may give an early flush, and wash the excess nutes away from the rootzone, 3 times the volume of the pot with air temperate, Ph neutral water, allow to recover overnight or 1x day in shade, no nute until you have seen an active recovery

 

[Dave017]

Early nute burn, just monitor for now, or you may give an early flush, and wash the excess nutes away form the rootzone, 3 times the volume of the pot with air temperate, Ph neutral water, allow to recover overnight or 1x day in shade, no nute until you have seen an active recovery

I thought it might be it showed up in less than 24 hours after feeding, I think it's the diamond black its a humic acid made from leonardite, I have heard it burns easy this is the first time I was incorporating the DB into my grow. Does anyone have any experience with the GO line. thanks. I think I will monitor it for now because I am on a feed water feed water routine so next water is only water I will just use a little more to flush excess away.

 

[vostok]

Water - is Non chlorinated straight from well no RO or Water Softener..! Consider getting your well water checked at a local lab, for impurities, (C) levels etc etc and bacteria's, and well worth doing a weekly check on your well, like Ph and bugs etc

 

[Dave017]

we have had some test before was told everything was pretty close to normal I can dig up the analysis I guess

 

[Dave017]

I cant find the tests lol. But it seems to be getting worse I did the flush 5 days ago and still no recovery. Some of the older growth has burnt tips and the new growth is getting more lime green/yellow. Is it possible I have underfed?

 

[Dave017]

anyone?

 

[jondamon]

To me it looks like and iron Fe deficiency.

 

[Dave017]

To me it looks like and iron Fe deficiency.

I've been reading up a lot trying to find out what it is and I also was thinking Iron def and I was looking at all the bottles of the go box I am using and only the main veg and bloom formulas have iron and it's only 0.1 percent I don't know how much plants need but t doesn't sound like a lot. How much iron do other nutes contain or is iron found in most water already before nutes?

 

[bertaluchi]

I had a Iron def. in my hydro set up and it seemed to turn the new leafs yellow but the veins remained green. I know it was a Fe, Iron problem because as soon as I added some rusty water (a few nails in a can of water, filtered before use) to my bucket, it cleared up the problem in like a day or two. I'm not sure if your on the right track with the Fe def. I would look at pics of plant problems and see if something else has similar veins as your plant. I have one of those plant problem books at home so when I get back I will flip through it and see if I can find something for you. Check this thread tomorrow, if I can find anything I will post it. In the mean time I would not do anything drastic.

 

[Dave017]

I had a Iron def. in my hydro set up and it seemed to turn the new leafs yellow but the veins remained green. I know it was a Fe, Iron problem because as soon as I added some rusty water (a few nails in a can of water, filtered before use) to my bucket, it cleared up the problem in like a day or two. I'm not sure if your on the right track with the Fe def. I would look at pics of plant problems and see if something else has similar veins as your plant. I have one of those plant problem books at home so when I get back I will flip through it and see if I can find something for you. Check this thread tomorrow, if I can find anything I will post it. In the mean time I would not do anything drastic.

I don't plan on doing anything drastic lol also seems another plant a snowryder at 24 days old its showing the same signs but its in the early stages I haven't fed it at all so far so yesterday I gave it half strength week 2 solution to see if underfeeding is the problem. also I use well water and It's pretty hard I have read recently heard "always learning" that hard water isn't that great maybe that's why the problem happened to the plant which had no nutes fed to it yet causing some sort of lockout I am going to start using distilled water to see if that helps.

 

[Dave017]

Water - is Non chlorinated straight from well no RO or Water Softener..! Consider getting your well water checked at a local lab, for impurities, (C) levels etc etc and bacteria's, and well worth doing a weekly check on your well, like Ph and bugs etc

found some sort of test here it is
Hardness - 18gpg
Iron - .3ppm
Nitrates - NA
P.H Balance - 7.2
TDS - 370 ppm

 

[bertaluchi]

My water is well water and it is hard too. I have not found a problem with it so far but there are variations of hard water so mine may be far different than yours. If you are near a water machine (there is one near me at a kangaroo gas station) they usually have reverse osmosis water and that has almost all of the hardness and micros removed. And it is usually around 25 cents for a gallon but you need your own bottles. If you do use that R/O water, add CalMag or some similar product.

 

[Dave017]

My water is well water and it is hard too. I have not found a problem with it so far but there are variations of hard water so mine may be far different than yours. If you are near a water machine (there is one near me at a kangaroo gas station) they usually have reverse osmosis water and that has almost all of the hardness and micros removed. And it is usually around 25 cents for a gallon but you need your own bottles. If you do use that R/O water, add CalMag or some similar product.

Just got back from shopping and bought 10 gallons of ro water and Epson salts hoping that may be the problem I have to wait till they dry to water again but we will see what happens.

 

[Dave017]

should I add CalMag every watering even in between feedings because I usually feed water feed ect, also should I worry about the p h too much seems to be around 6.0 but I have added dolomite lime to my soil when I mixed it will that itself be enough to raise the PH to 6.4 or 6.8 on its own or should I adjust before watering. Thanks

 

[yktind]

I'm not an expert but I read that hard wasn't isn't that great for growing. Also I believe your ph should be somewhere between 5.5-6.0. I'm not positive as to what but they are showing some kind of deficiency.

He is in soil not Hydro. Your PH should be 6.4 - 6.8

As for the yellow veins I have never seen that. Doesn't look like bleaching and usually nute burn starts at the tips of the leaves. Subbed to see what it is.

Here is a chart I have found on the google machine.

 

[Dave017]

He is in soil not Hydro. Your PH should be 6.4 - 6.8

yep I know that much lol

 

[Dave017]

Im goning to snap a few pics in a bit will post them soon since it's been 10 days it's time for updated pics

 

[Dave017]

Here are some pics I just took of the Auto New York City. The last 3 pics are the Snowryder that's also starting to show the same signs the NYC did at about the same age NYC is 20 days ahead or so 1 more pic of snowryder in next post can only put 10 images in each post.