Starting MMJ Grow Business, am I in over my Head?

CannaCole

Well-Known Member
Idk, I always felt all consultants do is tell you what you already know. That reassuring voice telling you it's the right thing to do, when really neither of you know whether things will go south or not.
That's why any good consultant will have continued clientele and proven results.
 

PhatPhuker

Member
Saskabush,
There is always a difference between book smart and street smart. Some good info? ok, but, You cant get real experience from You-Tube.
Your math might look nice on paper, but without real experience, you dont have a clue what to expect, and that sounds like what your asking for.
Unless you're lucky enough have just the right seeds, you will be very hard pressed to germinate a seed and harvest it inside of 3 months, and actually get something good.
You should enlist the aid/consultation of an experienced grower for the first 2 or 3 quarters of your operation, until you get a few crops under your belt, but i suspect its hard to find one you would trust.
Nevertheless, experience is key to setting up an operation of this sort. Sure you can toss out a number like 90 plants, but in reality that could be represented in a huge amount of different configurations which would all produce different amounts and so on. An experienced grower could look at a 375 Sq-Ft room and note not just the square feet, but the shape of the area. Then he could plan how to set it up for the best results using the style of growing that he prefers. Some people like dirt over hydroponics, and vice versa. Some like to grow big tall plants that reach 1 to 2 meters tall or more. Obviously, 90 of those would be a heck of a lot more work than for someone who prefers to grow small plants 30-40 cms tall in a sea of green, and 90 big full size plants wont fit in 375 sq-ft. Lol...
Have you ever had to deal with the insects that can devour these crops? and are you aware that lots of people bring in an infestation with the dirt they buy and bring in?
Well, I wish you all the best, and I hope things work out and you become a success. There are people out there with real skills who always like more well paid work, and make excellent consultants.
Just that mostly no-one ever suspects that Mom and Pop are such great gardners and Mom and Pop mostly don't advertise !
 

SnapsProvolone

Well-Known Member
That's why any good consultant will have continued clientele and proven results.
Agreed 100%. My clients stick with me.

You should come check us out at Pueblo Super Bud Bowl. We have a booth and some entries in the contest. :)

Would love to see you there.
 

saskabush

Member
Saskabush,
There is always a difference between book smart and street smart. Some good info? ok, but, You cant get real experience from You-Tube.
Your math might look nice on paper, but without real experience, you dont have a clue what to expect, and that sounds like what your asking for.
Unless you're lucky enough have just the right seeds, you will be very hard pressed to germinate a seed and harvest it inside of 3 months, and actually get something good.
You should enlist the aid/consultation of an experienced grower for the first 2 or 3 quarters of your operation, until you get a few crops under your belt, but i suspect its hard to find one you would trust.
Nevertheless, experience is key to setting up an operation of this sort. Sure you can toss out a number like 90 plants, but in reality that could be represented in a huge amount of different configurations which would all produce different amounts and so on. An experienced grower could look at a 375 Sq-Ft room and note not just the square feet, but the shape of the area. Then he could plan how to set it up for the best results using the style of growing that he prefers. Some people like dirt over hydroponics, and vice versa. Some like to grow big tall plants that reach 1 to 2 meters tall or more. Obviously, 90 of those would be a heck of a lot more work than for someone who prefers to grow small plants 30-40 cms tall in a sea of green, and 90 big full size plants wont fit in 375 sq-ft. Lol...
Have you ever had to deal with the insects that can devour these crops? and are you aware that lots of people bring in an infestation with the dirt they buy and bring in?
Well, I wish you all the best, and I hope things work out and you become a success. There are people out there with real skills who always like more well paid work, and make excellent consultants.
Just that mostly no-one ever suspects that Mom and Pop are such great gardners and Mom and Pop mostly don't advertise !
Yes, all very good points. I think its important to get feedback from forums like these because the rose coloured glasses are usually on when planning a venture like this. I think starting with 90 plants was a little generous and scaling back for the first couple crops is a better idea. Infestations and moulds are scary so we will have to have a plan and do more research in order to have a method in place to mitigate any potential losses. We wouldn't be starting to put soil in pots till September so it gives us a lot more time to do more research.
 

saskabush

Member
A master grower would be a great resource but trying to find one with no criminal record, credible and that will advertise themselves is going to be tough. I can imagine how many people claim "master grower" status in Colorado right now. I suspect a lot of con men exist in the market.
 

bunnyfather

Member
I'd run 10 to start, it's more about learning how the plants grow and attention to detail. I'm in a legal state and I've seen a few doctors and lawyers sink a ton of money thinking they are going to get rich. All they got was bankrupt. And I've seen idiots grow amazing buds because they started slow and learned by doing not reading. I can't imagine 90 plants in a 5x5 tent, even for SOG that's way to many.

I wish you the best of luck and I hope you have that building full in a year but plan every detail and develop "growers ocd". This is a good place to learn and get ideas.

I say get a 4x4 tent, a good 600w hps with an air cooled hood, a decent exhaust fan and start a few plants. Watch them close and take notes daily on your observations. Do research on the strain you pick to grow and call the seed banks and ask them the characteristics your plants should have. That's the difference between good weed and top shelf weed.
 

bird mcbride

Well-Known Member
Including germination it's about 13 weeks from seed to bud If done in the correct manner. I doubt if you'll find a pro pot grower without a pot growing criminal record or some sort of pot related charge.
To avoid alot of problems choose a soil that has been composted for growing consumables.
 

Bugeye

Well-Known Member
I think you are nuts to go big without ever previously growing. Take the risk of getting busted and start growing now. If you start running into any problems you'll know your big plans need to be put on hold until you figure things out better. It ain't rocket science but there sure as shit is a learning curve and plenty of nuance to figure out.
 

bilbo182

Active Member
Surely you can get a license but still start small?

I've read a million forums, had two experienced growers giving me advice (they never seem to agree on anything) and done as much as possible to prepare for my first small grow.

I can honestly say that no matter how well prepared you think you are you'll have at least 4 occasions during your first 12 week grow where you'll be pulling your hair out shouting"WTF!" and desperately trying to figure out what you did wrong. Was it the nutes, the Ph, the temp, the humidity, over trimming, light penetration, etc. etc. etc. The list is endless and each has a knock on effect on the other variables.

My advice, grow over the summer on a small scale and learn from it quick before diving in and throwing $200k at it in September!
 

bunnyfather

Member
Surely you can get a license but still start small?

I've read a million forums, had two experienced growers giving me advice (they never seem to agree on anything) and done as much as possible to prepare for my first small grow.

I can honestly say that no matter how well prepared you think you are you'll have at least 4 occasions during your first 12 week grow where you'll be pulling your hair out shouting"WTF!" and desperately trying to figure out what you did wrong. Was it the nutes, the Ph, the temp, the humidity, over trimming, light penetration, etc. etc. etc. The list is endless and each has a knock on effect on the other variables.

My advice, grow over the summer on a small scale and learn from it quick before diving in and throwing $200k at it in September!
Very well said bilbo!
 

miccyj

Well-Known Member
Surely you can get a license but still start small?

I've read a million forums, had two experienced growers giving me advice (they never seem to agree on anything) and done as much as possible to prepare for my first small grow.

I can honestly say that no matter how well prepared you think you are you'll have at least 4 occasions during your first 12 week grow where you'll be pulling your hair out shouting"WTF!" and desperately trying to figure out what you did wrong. Was it the nutes, the Ph, the temp, the humidity, over trimming, light penetration, etc. etc. etc. The list is endless and each has a knock on effect on the other variables.

My advice, grow over the summer on a small scale and learn from it quick before diving in and throwing $200k at it in September!
This....

I've been growing commercially for about a year now after a couple years of smaller grows, you definitely want to do a few small grows before you make such a huge investment, grab yourself a tent a 600W light and a bag of coco (my preference) and see what it's like first hand before you are down enough money for a deposit on a house, haha.

If you're determined to go big at the start, your will certainly need to find a consultant, I could use a holiday in Canada :D
 
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