undercovergrow
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not one bean popped. 
Sannie's SugarPunch
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KeizerSoze
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Yikes! I am very sorry to hear that. What a heart breaker. I feel for you... So what are you going to do? What do you think went wrong?not one bean popped.
I hate to say it but I am 10/10 above ground on Sugar Punch. Only six are showing leaves at this point and not all of them look "great", but I expect that most if not all will make it through. I am 9/10 on Anesthesia, but since I got a twin I still have ten. I have fleeting hope that the final one will show up, but not likely... Anesthesia is a bit smaller and a bit slower than Sugar Punch and only four or five are showing leaves at this time.
It's not all sunshine and rainbows in my little world either... I had a breaker kick last night and was down for about an hour in the middle of my flower room's light cycle... The night before it kicked twice and I was down for 15 - 20 minutes each time... I am very afraid that my flower room is going to hermie...
undercovergrow
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i'm not sure. as the weather is getting warmer, i wonder if that affected anything? i normally soak my beans for 24 hours in a maxicrop solution and then right to soil. as a newb, the winter was my first season and i only had one damp off on me and one die a few days after sprouting because i forgot to water it. so i'm at a loss for why these nine didn't pop. i have been busy so i was only watering them a bit in the morning and the soil did get dried out a bit...could that have done it??
i'm going to try again with blood orange, sunshine daydream, cheese quake, space bomb, sugar punch, and caramel candy kush, as well as chocolate rain...but the others that i tried too (blue dream, casey jones x green manalishi) aren't getting another chance this time.
just had big harvest (six done at the same time and wasn't expecting that! well, one started throwing nanners--my first experience with that--so she got chopped five days early) so them not popping is a bummer, but perhaps i should have waited until i could have paid them more attention
i don't think you'll have a problem with your girls at all with the breaker. i think it takes a lot more screwing up with lights for it to happen... but what do i know?
pics of the twin when you get a chance, please. would love to see her!
i'm going to try again with blood orange, sunshine daydream, cheese quake, space bomb, sugar punch, and caramel candy kush, as well as chocolate rain...but the others that i tried too (blue dream, casey jones x green manalishi) aren't getting another chance this time.
just had big harvest (six done at the same time and wasn't expecting that! well, one started throwing nanners--my first experience with that--so she got chopped five days early) so them not popping is a bummer, but perhaps i should have waited until i could have paid them more attention
i don't think you'll have a problem with your girls at all with the breaker. i think it takes a lot more screwing up with lights for it to happen... but what do i know?
pics of the twin when you get a chance, please. would love to see her!
undercovergrow
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LOL it makes sense to me!LOL... Never thought of keeping a plant out of my garden because it wasn't pretty enough. I'll have to revise my criteria to: High Potency, Good Yield, Shorter Flowering Time and Pretty...
rory420420
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ill be jeered and booed for this but here it goes..
pop your beans in really wet pro mix..keep it wet and above 70degrees,below 90degrees..thats all.there is to it..you get the added benifits of not disturbing the taproot planting it..the seed knows what it needs to do..i had a very wise old grower tell me pop beans in the same container youre gonba chop from...while not every bean pops,i have 75 to 80 percent come up and THRIVE,unless the beans are old or come from an unknown source..about a 3rd of my blue hawaiians didnt sprout,but they were years old and not stored properly..hope this helps.
pop your beans in really wet pro mix..keep it wet and above 70degrees,below 90degrees..thats all.there is to it..you get the added benifits of not disturbing the taproot planting it..the seed knows what it needs to do..i had a very wise old grower tell me pop beans in the same container youre gonba chop from...while not every bean pops,i have 75 to 80 percent come up and THRIVE,unless the beans are old or come from an unknown source..about a 3rd of my blue hawaiians didnt sprout,but they were years old and not stored properly..hope this helps.
KeizerSoze
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My guess would be humidity. I like to keep the temp up around 80 like Rory does but I also watch my humidity and like to keep it around 65% +/- 5%. I have had stuff sprout and die because the air was too dry.i'm not sure. as the weather is getting warmer, i wonder if that affected anything? i normally soak my beans for 24 hours in a maxicrop solution and then right to soil. as a newb, the winter was my first season and i only had one damp off on me and one die a few days after sprouting because i forgot to water it. so i'm at a loss for why these nine didn't pop. i have been busy so i was only watering them a bit in the morning and the soil did get dried out a bit...could that have done it??
i'm going to try again with blood orange, sunshine daydream, cheese quake, space bomb, sugar punch, and caramel candy kush, as well as chocolate rain...but the others that i tried too (blue dream, casey jones x green manalishi) aren't getting another chance this time.
just had big harvest (six done at the same time and wasn't expecting that! well, one started throwing nanners--my first experience with that--so she got chopped five days early) so them not popping is a bummer, but perhaps i should have waited until i could have paid them more attention
i don't think you'll have a problem with your girls at all with the breaker. i think it takes a lot more screwing up with lights for it to happen... but what do i know?
Congratulations on the big harvest. At least you have plenty of good smoke to console yourself with... You'll get'em next time...
.I'll take pics of the twins soon... The big one is struggling through half of the shell casing. I tried to nudge it off but it wouldn't move... The little one has already opened her first set of leaves. Once the casing is gone I'll take a pic.
undercovergrow
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KeizerSoze i was thinking this time to maybe use the dome thing i use for clones--would that help? and to put the beans in root riot plugs (never done w/ beans)...maybe that would help them to not dry out. thoughts?
rory420420
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just keep em wet in the dirt for 2 days,they will sprout..hell,do an experiment on just one. i popped a sour d an had leaves in 36hrs.youll know in a day or two..
KeizerSoze
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No jeering or booing from this peanut gallery... I like your advice! Many people say that the seeds that you "force" to germinate shouldn't really be germinated in the first place and are inferior stock. Just because a seed is from great lineage doesn't mean it is a great seed or will be a great plant. I have a few examples in my flower room right now.
"Pop where you chop!"... I like it.
KeizerSoze
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I would say it is a matter of personal preference. I have a really good germination rate using the paper towel method, but I end up with some inferior stock. It is also a delicate and tedious task in transplanting the sprouts. They are very fragile and vulnerable. It is almost like performing surgery... At the moment I have a flower room that I am trying to fill so I am pushing things... I think the better and more natural way is to do what Rory says. Your germination rate may be a bit lower but you will have a better chance at good strong healthy plants. I would say watch your temp and humidity, and dome them if you need to keep them warm and moist.
Hope that helps
rory420420
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i tried the paper towel method when i first started growing at the ripe old age of 13..but quickly changed my method after advice given was implemented..so much less involved,simpler,and just as effective..and i agree,if mother nature wont let it happen,it probably was gonna be the meek seed..like the quote in goodfellas "if the meek wanna inherit the earth,theyre gonna have to get in fuckin line!"..only the strong survive.
undercovergrow
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thanks keizer and rory-im gonna wait a few until i am done with harvest stuff and then will try again
rory420420
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rory420420
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that will be you when there done!...
KeizerSoze
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How incredibly male of me... What is the point in having a garden if it isn't going to be pretty???LOL it makes sense to me!
BTW, your avatar is really hot.
undercovergrow
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you got it! a garden should be pretty -- especially a garden of flowers we all love.
LOL a hot avatar--i'll take the compliment since it's a cartoon version of me--thank you!
undercovergrow
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rory i'm sorry i totally missed this post...in fact, i think keizer had said in an earlier post to listen to your advice and i remember wondering what did i miss at that time!? lol smoking while trying to follow this new layout can be a bit confusing at times! i'm taking the advice, rory. my second space bomb just popped above ground as well as my blood orange (both second tries) but my second try on the others (four others!)-including my sugar punch-didn't work. major bummer on the two out of five beans of my SP not popping! only three left...gonna probably need to order another pack just so i have some since i was planning on running just one bean to learn the plant and then pop all four later.
undercovergrow
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um, yeah, i might be smoking too much 
because apparently i've been watering dirt for two days... now officially my second sugar punch has now gone to soil in a soaked root riot plug. sorry sannie. 
fingers crossed on this one!! 
jrainman
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I would say it is a matter of personal preference. I have a really good germination rate using the paper towel method, but I end up with some inferior stock. It is also a delicate and tedious task in transplanting the sprouts. They are very fragile and vulnerable. It is almost like performing surgery... At the moment I have a flower room that I am trying to fill so I am pushing things... I think the better and more natural way is to do what Rory says. Your germination rate may be a bit lower but you will have a better chance at good strong healthy plants. I would say watch your temp and humidity, and dome them if you need to keep them warm and moist.
Hope that helps[/QUOT
100% agree , I also have my method of germination although not the paper towel method but similar 2 damp sponges seeds between and place in small plastic container place on my computer router box , and as you said it becomes a delicate task transplanting, I have found that sugar punch seeds germinate quick ,
I germinated 3 SP seeds about 3 1/2 weeks ago 24 hours the roots were just peeking out of the seeds on all 3 ,about 9 hours later the roots were 3/4 to 1 inch long to my surprise , one of them while transplanting got imbedded in to the sponge never happen before ,but then again never had a strain root grow so quick , most of the time I transplant when the root is 3/8' - 1/2'',
So here is what happened , and my next round of SP seeds will go rite in to soil
KeizerSoze
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Well I had a major electrical event last night that caused an emergency evacuation of the veg room... The Extrema and Cotton Candy ended up going outside to harden (by way of the flower room) about a week ahead of schedule, but no big deal...
Here are Sugar Punch and Anesthesia...
The back row are the largest of each, Sugar Punch on the left and Anesthesia on the right. Front row is "the twins". The one on the right was the little sprout, less than a half inch long with a scrawny ugly purplish brown head when I planted her. She looks pretty healthy now... Her twin on the left was at least an inch long and very healthy looking, but with the seed shell on her head.
As you can see, she is still working her way out of it, but her color is good and she is trying hard. I thinks she'll make it.
I am 9/10 on Anesthesia with a twin so I end up with 10 plants. All of them seem pretty healthy and uniform for the most part. There are a couple of stragglers but nothing I am really worried about. Sugar Punch on the other hand is not so hardy... Five that look "healthy", Three that are scrawny stragglers and two that look a little sick, not sure they are going to make it.... We shall see...
Here are Sugar Punch and Anesthesia...
The back row are the largest of each, Sugar Punch on the left and Anesthesia on the right. Front row is "the twins". The one on the right was the little sprout, less than a half inch long with a scrawny ugly purplish brown head when I planted her. She looks pretty healthy now... Her twin on the left was at least an inch long and very healthy looking, but with the seed shell on her head.
As you can see, she is still working her way out of it, but her color is good and she is trying hard. I thinks she'll make it.
I am 9/10 on Anesthesia with a twin so I end up with 10 plants. All of them seem pretty healthy and uniform for the most part. There are a couple of stragglers but nothing I am really worried about. Sugar Punch on the other hand is not so hardy... Five that look "healthy", Three that are scrawny stragglers and two that look a little sick, not sure they are going to make it.... We shall see...
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