America the Oligarchy?

[BigNBushy]

Not surprisingly, very inconsistent..

When attempting to prove the point that justice somehow equates to compensation and reparations when a crime is committed, coercing a corporation into giving you what you feel you've earned through victimhood is OK, but when that same corporation actually commits crimes and creates situations where real victims are inevitable, it's all business as usual.. Capitalism!

It isn't given in the same sense that one might be given welfare from the state.

The doctor fucked up and amputated a leg instead of doing a liver biopsy.

Or

General Electric fucked up by making a faulty fuse, knew it was faulty, and dozens of electricians lost arms despite following safety regulations.

Or

The coal company ignored safety and the mine collapsed.

In all these instances someone screwed the pooch. As a result, someone else lost their livelihood.

You'd rather drag them off to jail, than have the innocent people who were affected compensated?

 

[Padawanbater2]

You'd rather drag them off to jail, than have the innocent people who were affected compensated?

And who compensates the innocent people who were affected?

 

[BigNBushy]

And who compensates the innocent people who were affected?

The corporation that did the harm. ..

That's the way we've been doing it for centuries.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

The corporation that did the harm. ..

That's the way we've been doing it for centuries.

That's a faulty argument.

 

[BigNBushy]

That's a faulty argument.

Then by all means, point out the fault.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Then by all means, point out the fault.

Religion was used for centuries and caused the dark ages which prevented actual progress and free thought.

 

[Padawanbater2]

The corporation that did the harm. ..

That's the way we've been doing it for centuries.

What if my broke neighbor kills my wife? Who compensates me then? Is my brother in law also compensated? What about my mother and father in law? My daughter? My wifes best friend?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

What if my broke neighbor kills my wife? Who compensates me then? Is my brother in law also compensated? What about my mother and father in law? My daughter? My wifes best friend?

Why do you keep looking for the boogie man? It's real simple. Get a gun. If someone fucks with you, shoot them. What compensation do you get which was worth prevention? Most of the time all it takes is pointing the gun. But I have no problem putting 11 bullets in that asshole.

 

[BigNBushy]

What if my broke neighbor kills my wife? Who compensates me then? Is my brother in law also compensated? What about my mother and father in law? My daughter? My wifes best friend?

No, for many reasons, but mostly because the broke neighbor is broke.

If he were wealthy, he would be sued after the criminal trial.

But if the same person died as a result of corporate wrong doing, if someone broke criminal law they would be prosecuted. But simultaneously you, and others could sue the corporation for whatever remedy the lawyer thought best.

more often than not, in a corporate wrong, many people make decisions that accumulate into something bad. But no one person has any strong culpability. When they do, they can be prosecuted.

you seem to have a weak and small mind. No offense. It's just one track on everything. .. rich evil people have more money than me, bad.

 

[BigNBushy]

Religion was used for centuries and caused the dark ages which prevented actual progress and free thought.

The two seem alarmingly unrelated for you to draw that comparison.

I'm not even sure how to respond to it. It has no basis in religion.

 

[Padawanbater2]

No, for many reasons, but mostly because the broke neighbor is broke.

If he were wealthy, he would be sued after the criminal trial.

But if the same person died as a result of corporate wrong doing, if someone broke criminal law they would be prosecuted. But simultaneously you, and others could sue the corporation for whatever remedy the lawyer thought best.

more often than not, in a corporate wrong, many people make decisions that accumulate into something bad. But no one person has any strong culpability. When they do, they can be prosecuted.

you seem to have a weak and small mind. No offense. It's just one track on everything. .. rich evil people have more money than me, bad.

So if my neighbor is broke and doesn't work for a corporation, who compensates me when he murders my wife in your fantasy land of compensation ='s justice? Perhaps that's a flaw you didn't fully think through..

The majority of wealthy people are good people, it's the tiny fraction of big business owners who benefit from being able to secure legislation that go against American citizens interests.

Absolute fail

 

[Canna Sylvan]

The two seem alarmingly unrelated for you to draw that comparison.

I'm not even sure how to respond to it. It has no basis in religion.

It's the same concept and using the excuse, "we have for hundreds of years," isn't a valid argument. If you use that statement it means you have no point. With that statement alone, it could mean hundreds of years of oppression or of bliss. Good has lasted short, and bad has lasted hundreds of years in the past. Rating goodness or badness based on length of time doesn't prove anything.

The ethical and logically sound way to argue a point is the effects of doing an action. Unless you want to go the lawyer route?

 

[BigNBushy]

So if my neighbor is broke and doesn't work for a corporation, who compensates me when he murders my wife in your fantasy land of compensation ='s justice? Perhaps that's a flaw you didn't fully think through..



Absolute fail

No, I never said compensation was the same thing as justice.

But your scenario is retarded. Why would a company your neighbor works for compensate you if he murders your wife?

 

[BigNBushy]

It's the same concept and using the excuse, "we have for hundreds of years," isn't a valid argument. If you use that statement it means you have no point. With that statement alone, it could mean hundreds of years of oppression or of bliss. Good has lasted short, and bad has lasted hundreds of years in the past. Rating goodness or badness based on length of time doesn't prove anything.

The ethical and logically sound way to argue a point is the effects of doing an action. Unless you want to go the lawyer route?

I have been going that route. I've repeatedly said making someone whole is better for them than locking someone else up.

The compensation comes from tort law, which has developed over hundreds of years. We've gotten pretty good at figuring out who was at fault for what and what a just amount is.

 

[Eye of Horus]

20 years in prison for marijuana, that is justice.