Any Hockey Fans on RIU??

dux

dux

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Agree chadster, my boys got beat up pretty good in the first but looked good enough to win after?? Guess not.....
 
TryN

TryN

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B's tie the series ... Now back to Detroit for 2 games. Detroit looked out of it today.
 
chadster152

chadster152

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TryN said:
B's tie the series ... Now back to Detroit for 2 games. Detroit looked out of it today.
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Game 3 tonight! I'm thinking this is gonna be a hard fought, long game tonight. Lots of hits, lots of defence, and a 1 goal victory.
 
TryN

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Ok. That did not go as expected! What do you think happened? The entire team seemed out of sync.
 
chadster152

chadster152

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TryN said:
Ok. That did not go as expected! What do you think happened? The entire team seemed out of sync.
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Well I definitely didn't think Tuukka was gonna stand on his head and get a shutout, but Boston played Boston's game and clogged the neutral zone and killed the speed of Detroit with good defense and amazing goaltending. Boston just out-played Detroit, plain and simple. Sure felt great to win at Joe Louis Arena for the first time in 7 years! 2 U's 2 K's 2-1 series lead! GO BRUINS!
 
TryN

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chadster152 said:
Well I definitely didn't think Tuukka was gonna stand on his head and get a shutout, but Boston played Boston's game and clogged the neutral zone and killed the speed of Detroit with good defense and amazing goaltending. Boston just out-played Detroit, plain and simple. Sure felt great to win at Joe Louis Arena for the first time in 7 years! 2 U's 2 K's 2-1 series lead! GO BRUINS!
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Tomorrow night 8pm! GO BRUINS!
 
st0wandgrow

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Effin Bruins! The only hope the Wings have is if Zetterberg comes back during the series. The young kids have played well all year, but they're a little over their heads in the playoffs. The intensity level and speed is through the roof come this time of year. They'll benefit from the experience, but the chances of moving on this year are pretty slim.

Ohh, and Datsyuk has the best hands I've ever seen. Mario Lemieux is the only other guy in the conversation.
 
chadster152

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st0wandgrow said:
Effin Bruins! The only hope the Wings have is if Zetterberg comes back during the series. The young kids have played well all year, but they're a little over their heads in the playoffs. The intensity level and speed is through the roof come this time of year. They'll benefit from the experience, but the chances of moving on this year are pretty slim.

Ohh, and Datsyuk has the best hands I've ever seen. Mario Lemieux is the only other guy in the conversation.
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I honestly don't think having Zetterburg back would improve Detroit's chances that much. You can't have a championship team rely on one or two "big" players. Right now and throughout the series, Boston has been missing Seidenberg, McQuad, Paille, and Kelly, all of whom are integral parts of the team and have Stanley Cup experience. Injury's happen so you gotta have depth. Detroit's opportunities are coming off the rush when they use their speed, and the young guys are the ones providing it. Detroit is a FAST team...like holy shit cheetah-on-cocaine fast. But when speed is your only advantage, it's easy to take away. Boston plays physical, rough and tumble hockey to slow down the opposition, get the puck along the boards and then work it out...and along with staunch defence, a Vezina-caliber goalie, and scoring threats on every line and among the D...that makes us hard to beat. If Detroit wants to turn things around, they need to adjust their style of play. You NEED to play physical against the Bruins to have a chance, cause during playoffs it's kill or be killed. You need to get under the guys skin, get them emotional, and get them to take penalties...and that's one thing Boston has a tendency to do when they get emotional. But in order to do that, you have to hit people and you have to stand up for your team after the whistle. Detroit is not a fighting team, they had 7 fighting majors to Bostons 48 during the regular season, but maybe sending a message that you wont be intimidated and putting Miller or Thorton or Chara in the box for 5 min will spark some offense. But on the flipside, when Boston gets emotional, magic can happen...see game 7 against Toronto last year.

And they don't call him the Magic Man for no reason, but I disagree that he's the best. Mario Lemieux, Wayne Gretzky, Cam Neely, and Sidney Crosby (however much it pains me to admit) should all be in the discussion ...shit even Patrick Kane should be in there, among others. There are a lot of guys that can work magic with the puck, and while not all of them have been doing it for as long as Datsyuk, time is on their side. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to diminish Datsyuk's skills...he is a ridiculous with puck and a scoring threat each and everytime he has the puck on his stick...but there are other guys, past and present, that are just as lethal.
 
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st0wandgrow

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chadster152 said:
I honestly don't think having Zetterburg back would improve Detroit's chances that much. You can't have a championship team rely on one or two "big" players. Right now and throughout the series, Boston has been missing Seidenberg, McQuad, Paille, and Kelly, all of whom are integral parts of the team and have Stanley Cup experience. Injury's happen so you gotta have depth. Detroit's opportunities are coming off the rush when they use their speed, and the young guys are the ones providing it. Detroit is a FAST team...like holy shit cheetah-on-cocaine fast. But when speed is your only advantage, it's easy to take away. Boston plays physical, rough and tumble hockey to slow down the opposition, get the puck along the boards and then work it out...and along with staunch defence, a Vezina-caliber goalie, and scoring threats on every line and among the D...that makes us hard to beat. If Detroit wants to turn things around, they need to adjust their style of play. You NEED to play physical against the Bruins to have a chance, cause during playoffs it's kill or be killed. You need to get under the guys skin, get them emotional, and get them to take penalties...and that's one thing Boston has a tendency to do when they get emotional. But in order to do that, you have to hit people and you have to stand up for your team after the whistle. Detroit is not a fighting team, they had 7 fighting majors to Bostons 48 during the regular season, but maybe sending a message that you wont be intimidated and putting Miller or Thorton or Chara in the box for 5 min will spark some offense. But on the flipside, when Boston gets emotional, magic can happen...see game 7 against Toronto last year.

And they don't call him the Magic Man for no reason, but I disagree that he's the best. Mario Lemieux, Wayne Gretzky, Cam Neely, and Sidney Crosby (however much it pains me to admit) should all be in the discussion ...shit even Patrick Kane should be in there, among others. There are a lot of guys that can work magic with the puck, and while not all of them have been doing it for as long as Datsyuk, time is on their side. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to diminish Datsyuk's skills...he is a ridiculous with puck and a scoring threat each and everytime he has the puck on his stick...but there are other guys, past and present, that are just as lethal.
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Some good points you make about the Bruins. I don't think the Wings can hang with them either way, but don't underestimate the importance of Zetterberg to this team though. I understand that one player doesn't make a team, but Z kills penalties, is on the power play, and is one of the best 2-way players in the game. Do you think taking Crosby out of the Pens lineup would effect them at all (not trying to compare the two players)?

We'll have to agree to disagree on Pavel Datsyuk having the best hands ever. I played in the NHL, and was a fan for many moons before that and I have not seen a set of hands as good as his in person or on TV. He might not stand out to someone that watches him a couple times a year, but when you see him make NHL players look like mini-mites on a nightly basis it leaves an impression.
 
chadster152

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st0wandgrow said:
Some good points you make about the Bruins. I don't think the Wings can hang with them either way, but don't underestimate the importance of Zetterberg to this team though. I understand that one player doesn't make a team, but Z kills penalties, is on the power play, and is one of the best 2-way players in the game. Do you think taking Crosby out of the Pens lineup would effect them at all (not trying to compare the two players)?

We'll have to agree to disagree on Pavel Datsyuk having the best hands ever. I played in the NHL, and was a fan for many moons before that and I have not seen a set of hands as good as his in person or on TV. He might not stand out to someone that watches him a couple times a year, but when you see him make NHL players look like mini-mites on a nightly basis it leaves an impression.
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While I am wholeheartedly rooting for the Bruins, this is hockey and any team can beat any other team on any given day, so I'm not gonna count the Wings out just yet. I haven't watched Zetterburg play a lot, but I know that he is a playmaker for the Wings. I see your point and agree that he would make a difference. And yes, the pens just aren't themselves when Crosby is out, but they have some depth that keeps them afloat while he recovers. That's the main thing I see lacking for the Wings...they have veteran leaders, they have playmaking stars, and they have a lot of youthful speed, but not too much depth yet. That team is gonna be a real contender in a couple years.

I can agree to disagree. And you are correct, I usually only see Datsyuk and Zetterburg play twice a year (and highlights of the magic), but now that they are in the East and division rivals to the Bruins, I'm sure I'm gonna be seeing a lot more of them in the coming years. Datsyuk is definitely among the elite, thats why the B's always have Chara on the ice with him, I just wouldn't rank him as high as you would. I'd say definitely top 5, but when you toss names like Lemieux, Gretzky, and Crosby in with Datsyuk...I think the gap between 1st and 5th becomes very marginal.
 
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