jondamon
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80% BCUZZ COCO with 20% PERLITE.
Its been used now for around 7-8 weeks. Getting to that point where I like to do a Ca and Mg hit anyway.
The nutes I use are a base of 5-4-3 with Ca@5% and Mg@2%.
J
400w Club-Show Off Your 400w Pride And Joy
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80% BCUZZ COCO with 20% PERLITE.
Its been used now for around 7-8 weeks. Getting to that point where I like to do a Ca and Mg hit anyway.
The nutes I use are a base of 5-4-3 with Ca@5% and Mg@2%.
J
Irish Bastard
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well i started with a 125 wat cfl went to a mh 175 w then on to a 400w hps its my first indoor built as i went along dont know how far into flower i am due to winter and cold temps befor the hps but everything looks good so far fox farm dirt and organic old bloom nute let me know what you think
glockdoc
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ah icic the coco is calling for the additional cal mag supplements
hey your good at this explain to me how you do your p/k supplments with coco!!?!
it holds p but not k, the k leeches out right?!?
i have some coco; but while helping a buddy learn and grow at the same time, we attemped coco and things got ugly fast. seedlings yellowed then got brown quick and im sure its due to no cal mag (which im running out of now for my dwc)
my base nute for my hempys and dwc is maxibloom which has ample amouts of ca mg , but i thought the 5 gallons of water in the dwc needed some more...
imma take some pics tonight on my kids google tablet (hes only 3 dont worry, ill delete after)
hey your good at this explain to me how you do your p/k supplments with coco!!?!
it holds p but not k, the k leeches out right?!?
i have some coco; but while helping a buddy learn and grow at the same time, we attemped coco and things got ugly fast. seedlings yellowed then got brown quick and im sure its due to no cal mag (which im running out of now for my dwc)
my base nute for my hempys and dwc is maxibloom which has ample amouts of ca mg , but i thought the 5 gallons of water in the dwc needed some more...
imma take some pics tonight on my kids google tablet (hes only 3 dont worry, ill delete after)
glockdoc
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it looks like they revegged then flowered again...did u do that? do you know if your tent is light tight when lights are out?? whats the strain?
jondamon
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Actually coco generates its own K.
That's the one thing you're never short on in coco and you have to be careful otherwise it can become toxic.
That's why most coco specific nutes are lower in K than anything else.
Canna explain it alot better than I can.
I like to re-hit the coco with a calmag only feed around 2 months into usage of the coco.
Canna recommend coco should be kept around 1.3EC and you test this using a 1:1.5 extraction method using distilled water etc that's the only true way of knowing medium EC and pH.
Your issue with the seedlings could have been calmag but was most likely just an under feeding issue.
To start seeds in coco I use. 0.6-0.8EC feed to precharge with.
Coco does require higher levels of Ca and Mg than most nutrients have in them. Most nutes use 2% Ca and 1% Mg.
A lot of folks have a good result from a calmag precharge just before flowering.
As you know I like to wait until I see small signs of a def before addition.
If I get a def symptom on one plant I know the rest will follow eventually. So this is when I like to hit them a little harder with only the calmag. For me though its all governed on when I see that first def symptom.
Most branded coco will have a charged buffer or calcium nitrate anyway which can sustain growth for a couple of plain water feedings. After 2-4 plain waterings though the contained Ca and N deminishes quickly.
Anything else let me know.
J
That's the one thing you're never short on in coco and you have to be careful otherwise it can become toxic.
That's why most coco specific nutes are lower in K than anything else.
Canna explain it alot better than I can.
I like to re-hit the coco with a calmag only feed around 2 months into usage of the coco.
Canna recommend coco should be kept around 1.3EC and you test this using a 1:1.5 extraction method using distilled water etc that's the only true way of knowing medium EC and pH.
Your issue with the seedlings could have been calmag but was most likely just an under feeding issue.
To start seeds in coco I use. 0.6-0.8EC feed to precharge with.
Coco does require higher levels of Ca and Mg than most nutrients have in them. Most nutes use 2% Ca and 1% Mg.
A lot of folks have a good result from a calmag precharge just before flowering.
As you know I like to wait until I see small signs of a def before addition.
If I get a def symptom on one plant I know the rest will follow eventually. So this is when I like to hit them a little harder with only the calmag. For me though its all governed on when I see that first def symptom.
Most branded coco will have a charged buffer or calcium nitrate anyway which can sustain growth for a couple of plain water feedings. After 2-4 plain waterings though the contained Ca and N deminishes quickly.
Anything else let me know.
J
jondamon
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What are your hi and lo temps?
To me it looks like the plants are struggling with a heat issue among a few other things.
Give some more specifics.
J
glockdoc
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man this is sticky worthy bro thanks. more well put then most of the info on the fourms...if u could rep u i would for months.
ill let u know when i break open the coco, will probably be next run.
to me, it looks like irishbastard has some reveg leaves on his plants, which is why i claimed light leak. idk if heat will cause all that or even extreme cold.. ive battled both in my cab and that has never happend to any of mine... i had a headband who geneticly put out some weird almost round leaves but not like a reveg type leaf.
theres about 4 of us keeping this thread moving, maybe the others can chime in some insight.
jondamon
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Thanks.
As for Irish I agree about reveg (other issues part) could be light leak or lighting issue but as I said a bit more info would help.
It does seem like there's only a few 400 guys left in this thread that are actually contributing. Lol.
I think so far I've posted most of my 400w grows in here lol, All bar my auto grows I done once I down graded from 600 as at that point I was still quite paranoid about hot fuzz coming back so I was a little bit apprehensive about posting.
But when I think about it properly they got me with. 4 plants over 2 years ago now.
8 coppers, 4 cars and 4 hours of their time = a 4 plant personal bust. Safe to say I doubt they're coming back lol. Its too expensive for them to bust me again lol.
J
Irish Bastard
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the strain is supposed to be purple kush when i got them they were in begining to flower so i did go back to veg for three months then flowerd them my tent is pretty tight all it is is a plastic tool shed allmost four foot wide six foot tall and two and a half deep .. now how can you tell that they were revegged? im new to this so all help is great but wow all from a pic you knew that my temps are from 64 to 75 ish
jondamon
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Its the abundance of little leaves that screams reveg.
Its how they grow after they've started flowering and then been vegged.
It takes an absolute eternity to get a flowering plant reverted back to veg and then to veg normally again.
Are you using this grow to learn?
I ask this simply because you may not get a great return on yield from these.
J
Garybhoy11
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Mate many words come to mind with these pics but good certainly aint one of em, id personally ditch the lot and start again, you arent gonna get anything worth while smoking off they plants now tney are to far gone,
watcha on about gary,, johndamon or watever the fuK hiS name is qwite regurly posts about how he tops 400g of his 400 watt PERIOD!!!
LOOKING AT THEM PLANTS I CALL BULLSHIT.
glockdoc
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i bet jondas worst haul is better then your best
with that said GET ON HIS LEVEL
if you have nothing to contribute DONT EVEN SPEAK
good day
goldengrower
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jondamon
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What???
Have you even checked out any of my previous grows???
I've done weigh in pictures with scales etc.
Last grow 379g with an older bulb that really needed replacing.
427g before that 439g before that?
What's the matter? Getting your arse chewed in the UK thread or something?
Its users like this that gives the Brits a bad name man!
J
glockdoc
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LOL yea jonda dont even waste valuable time on him... like you stated..buds on scale pictures; what more do u need to say!?!
if i may quote a line from 50 cent
"its the jealousy and the envy thats making them mad| they see you doing good, while they're doing bad"
jondamon
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To be frank I couldn't give two fucks what others think anyway.
I'm a personal grower so what's the benefit in me lying about it.
I've always posted true weights. Even when I was only pulling 350g from my 600w setup.
It ain't like I'm claiming 800g is it???
I'm even saying that I'm struggling to break over 450g.
The trouble with most Brits is that they're in it for making money.
With me its more about saving money and not having to buy it.
J