This disease is racist!!

[Dr Kynes]

I didn't mention race. How can it be racist?

by not mentioning race, and the special privileges deserved by certain groups to compensate them for injustices (real or imagined) in the distant past you failed to celebrate diversity.

equal treatment is UNFAIR, cuz some pigs are more equal than others.

 

[Dr Kynes]

I'd say the majority of NBA players are genetically mixed. Although most are commonly referred to as "black" , their genetic makeup is not solely African. I'd guess former player Charles Barkley is at least genetically speaking 20% "white" and about 80% asshole.

while shaquile oneil is 30% and black 70% cant hit a free throw if his life depended on it.

 

[Ceepea]

by not mentioning race, and the special privileges deserved by certain groups to compensate them for injustices (real or imagined) in the distant past you failed to celebrate diversity.

equal treatment is UNFAIR, cuz some pigs are more equal than others.

I said people deserve equal opportunity.

Again, not racist because I never mentioned race (real or imagined).

 

[Dr Kynes]

I said people deserve equal opportunity.

Again, not racist because I never mentioned race (real or imagined).

excactly

by demanding equal opportunity, you imply that stacking the deck for certain groups is wrong, and "Thats Racist!!"

you must always remember to include affirmative action, quotas, set-asides and racially based "Outreach Programs" in your equality calculations.

 

[Ceepea]

excactly

by demanding equal opportunity, you imply that stacking the deck for certain groups is wrong, and "Thats Racist!!"

People of lesser opportunity should be given help to elevate their potential to a higher standard, regardless of race.

you must always remember to include affirmative action, quotas, set-asides and racially based "Outreach Programs" in your equality calculations.

Quotas are dumb.So are racially based programs. If we actually want to curb racism we have to stop segregating people (with laws and guidelines).

Create programs that help all those in need, not just ones belonging to a specific race, even though that race or races, might utilize the programs more frequently.

 

[Dr Kynes]

People of lesser opportunity should be given help to elevate their potential to a higher standard, regardless of race.



Quotas are dumb.So are racially based programs. If we actually want to curb racism we have to stop segregating people (with laws and guidelines).

Create programs that help all those in need, not just ones belonging to a specific race, even though that race or races, might utilize the programs more frequently.

"THAT'S RACIST!!"

 

[skunkd0c]

by not mentioning race, and the special privileges deserved by certain groups to compensate them for injustices (real or imagined) in the distant past you failed to celebrate diversity.

equal treatment is UNFAIR, cuz some pigs are more equal than others.

Do you think this is the same with women ?
some folk think women should be given precedence over men with equal qualification
for instance to redress the balance in parliament where there are less women
some attribute this lack of female mp's directly to women having received unfair or unequal treatment in the past

sounds very similar to the affirmative action policy for race

if it could be established that a particular section of society did receive unfair treatment in the past
should they be compensated ?
if so how many generations back could one claim for ?

if it is decided that the African race has suffered more than the Asian race
how would a system be implemented so that Africans can take precedence over Asians
what if it is then discovered that women have suffered more than Africans and Asians

how are they going to make sure that the womens committee for African womens rights to abortion has enough African women on it ?

do you think the sentiment behind affirmative action is correct if it is to redress a past wrong?
a form of compensation i guess

personally i do not know what the solution would be, or weather anyone should be compensated after 200 years 500 years ?
1000 years ? what is the cut off point to compensate past wrongs of history

should current generations suffer should an Asian dude not get a job for the only reason he is not African or not a woman ?
is it important to have women on committees for breast cancer or could men do the job just as well ?

dr kynes how would you solve this issue or do you not see it as a problem, just wipe the slate clean and let the best man/woman/African/Asian have the job ?

i like to be nice and i feel people that have been wronged deserve some compensation but should this come at the expense of innocent people ?

peace

 

[Dr Kynes]

Do you think this is the same with women ?
some folk think women should be given precedence over men with equal qualification
for instance to redress the balance in parliament where there are less women
some attribute this lack of female mp's directly to women having received unfair or unequal treatment in the past

sounds very similar to the affirmative action policy for race

if it could be established that a particular section of society did receive unfair treatment in the past
should they be compensated ?
if so how many generations back could one claim for ?

if it is decided that the African race has suffered more than the Asian race
how would a system be implemented so that Africans can take precedence over Asians
what if it is then discovered that women have suffered more than Africans and Asians

how are they going to make sure that the womens committee for African womens rights to abortion has enough African women on it ?

do you think the sentiment behind affirmative action is correct if it is to redress a past wrong?
a form of compensation i guess

personally i do not know what the solution would be, or weather anyone should be compensated after 200 years 500 years ?
1000 years ? what is the cut off point to compensate past wrongs of history

should current generations suffer should an Asian dude not get a job for the only reason he is not African or not a woman ?
is it important to have women on committees for breast cancer or could men do the job just as well ?

dr kynes how would you solve this issue or do you not see it as a problem, just wipe the slate clean and let the best man/woman/African/Asian have the job ?

i like to be nice and i feel people that have been wronged deserve some compensation but should this come at the expense of innocent people ?

peace

thats the point of my whole sarcastic diatribe.

Barry O is a perfect example of the affirmative action mindset, he spent years claiming to be an "Oppressed African American", talked about how his ancestors were slaves, and took every affirmative action set-aside available to him, while also pretending to be a foreign exchange student, and the truth is he was NEITHER.

his father was not descended of slaves in america, being from kenya, and if any of his ancestors were in fact enslaved by anyone, it would have been by moslems, not europeans.
he was never a foreign exchange student, since he is (arguably) a US citizen, who merely spent several years living abroad due to his mother's desire to shame her father by dropping her knickers for anyone who was sufficiently socially unacceptable in 1950's american society.

ann dunham took the lefty message to heart, and rebelled in every way she could imagine, against the "establishment", but apparently her imagination only included the cocks of wealthy foreigners from third world nations.

but it's all good, she was what ya might call a "Two Bagger", but being a "Snowflake" brought her some extra Sexual Market Value in the more benighted portions of the world.

 

[skunkd0c]

i am sure some will exploit the system
but what about those who have a genuine case or do you think
no case is genuine and compensation of some kind is not warranted ?

is it more about "skin colour" than actual race or maybe who complains the most
i do wonder this sometimes

it would seem the darker your skin tone is the more the general view should be that you are at the top of the league of oppressed peoples
i only really say this because i frequently hear slurs in the media about Mexicans/women/gypsies/Christians and so on

any slurs against Muslims/jews/blacks seem to be taken on a different level to a slur against say the Chinese or mexicans
is this because Chinese people have not been oppressed so much or do they complain less, should all peoples not be treated fairly in the media ?

i once see a comedy sketch where a jew blacked up as an African argued with a black man dressed as a big nose jew
they argued over who had suffered the most persecution throughout history both claiming they each had the right to saterise each others personas because
of their heritage of persecution

do you think their is some kind of agenda behind this or is it some kind of multi-tiered political correctness
jews muslims and blacks are known to complain more so the media does its best to not upset them ?

 

[Dr Kynes]

i am sure some will exploit the system
but what about those who have a genuine case or do you think
no case is genuine and compensation of some kind is not warranted ?

is it more about "skin colour" than actual race or maybe who complains the most
i do wonder this sometimes

it would seem the darker your skin tone is the more the general view should be that you are at the top of the league of oppressed peoples
i only really say this because i frequently hear slurs in the media about Mexicans/women/gypsies/Christians and so on

any slurs against Muslims/jews/blacks seem to be taken on a different level to a slur against say the Chinese or mexicans
is this because Chinese people have not been oppressed so much or do they complain less, should all peoples not be treated fairly in the media ?

i once see a comedy sketch where a jew blacked up as an African argued with a black man dressed as a big nose jew
they argued over who had suffered the most persecution throughout history both claiming they each had the right to saterise each others personas because
of their heritage of persecution

do you think their is some kind of agenda behind this or is it some kind of multi-tiered political correctness
jews muslims and blacks are known to complain more so the media does its best to not upset them ?

in the "That's Racist!!" sweepstakes, everybody is a loser.

certain minotiy groups are granted more "affirmative action credits" than others, and sometimes it results in lefty v. lefty combat.

in california right now, asian lefty groups, chicano lefty groups and black lefty groups are engaged in a three way knife fight in a phone booth over whether affirmative action enrollment in charter schools, AP classes, so-called "magnet schools", and the UC system should be re-established or not, and whether asian should be included in the "minority" groups, and whether chicanos qualify as "hispanic" or "white".

it's some funny shit.

the asian lefty groups want affirmative action to stay on the rubbish heap, unless they get an equal slice of the pie
black lefty groups insist they deserve the lion's share of the special benefits because, you know, ... slavery 200 years ago...
and both sides are trying to insist that chicanos are really white spaniards so they arent minorities at all, while the chicano lefty groups are screaming "Todos Por La Raza" and waving a broken beer bottle at the other two

 

[skunkd0c]

in the "That's Racist!!" sweepstakes, everybody is a loser.

certain minotiy groups are granted more "affirmative action credits" than others, and sometimes it results in lefty v. lefty combat.

in california right now, asian lefty groups, chicano lefty groups and black lefty groups are engaged in a three way knife fight in a phone booth over whether affirmative action enrollment in charter schools, AP classes, so-called "magnet schools", and the UC system should be re-established or not, and whether asian should be included in the "minority" groups, and whether chicanos qualify as "hispanic" or "white".

it's some funny shit.

the asian lefty groups want affirmative action to stay on the rubbish heap, unless they get an equal slice of the pie
black lefty groups insist they deserve the lion's share of the special benefits because, you know, ... slavery 200 years ago...
and both sides are trying to insist that chicanos are really white spaniards so they arent minorities at all, while the chicano lefty groups are screaming "Todos Por La Raza" and waving a broken beer bottle at the other two

that sounds about right
but what about the women, they were burnt as witches, does that not trump slavery ?

can i make a claim against the Romans, i think there is a road here they built that is not completely straight

when i was a young lad one of the college lectures said he was instructed by the local authority to accept at least 60% ethnic minorities
he said this was ridiculous and decided to accept those who he felt would most benefit (showed the most initial aptitude)
regardless of skin colour or ethnic background

if there is justification for compensating for past wrongs i do not think the above strategy is the correct solution

peace

 

[BigNBushy]

i am sure some will exploit the system
but what about those who have a genuine case or do you think
no case is genuine and compensation of some kind is not warranted ?

is it more about "skin colour" than actual race or maybe who complains the most
i do wonder this sometimes

it would seem the darker your skin tone is the more the general view should be that you are at the top of the league of oppressed peoples
i only really say this because i frequently hear slurs in the media about Mexicans/women/gypsies/Christians and so on

any slurs against Muslims/jews/blacks seem to be taken on a different level to a slur against say the Chinese or mexicans
is this because Chinese people have not been oppressed so much or do they complain less, should all peoples not be treated fairly in the media ?

i once see a comedy sketch where a jew blacked up as an African argued with a black man dressed as a big nose jew
they argued over who had suffered the most persecution throughout history both claiming they each had the right to saterise each others personas because
of their heritage of persecution

do you think their is some kind of agenda behind this or is it some kind of multi-tiered political correctness
jews muslims and blacks are known to complain more so the media does its best to not upset them ?

You hit on something here that I think is very telling.

Jews and blacks of Africa are probably the two most persecuted groups in history.

One group probably has the most money and power (total, and per capita that claim is absolutely true), even though they have lacked a home land, and we're nearly exterminated less than a century ago.

The other group has a whole continent to call home, yet have yielded to outsiders and became subjects in their own lands, and slaves in others. External diplomatic pressure has always came to their rescue. But like most other groups, they've been given a reprieve for the last half century, and are making slight progress. Still yet, they are the most backward, impoverished, undeveloped, and primitive societies on earth.

These two groups occupy the two ends of the IQ test spectrum. You can guess which is where.

 

[UncleBuck]

did kynes just go on another "making up for the mistakes of our past is multicultural anti-white marxism" rant?

 

[Dr Kynes]

You hit on something here that I think is very telling.

Jews and blacks of Africa are probably the two most persecuted groups in history.

One group probably has the most money and power (total, and per capita that claim is absolutely true), even though they have lacked a home land, and we're nearly exterminated less than a century ago.

The other group has a whole continent to call home, yet have yielded to outsiders and became subjects in their own lands, and slaves in others. External diplomatic pressure has always came to their rescue. But like most other groups, they've been given a reprieve for the last half century, and are making slight progress. Still yet, they are the most backward, impoverished, undeveloped, and primitive societies on earth.

These two groups occupy the two ends of the IQ test spectrum. You can guess which is where.

seriously.

point 1: africa is fucked up because african SOCIETY is retrograde, and dominated by tribal conflicts and despotism. there is no inborn intellectual defect in african people.
one of the smartest cats i ever met was from Nigeria.

point 2: all jews are not rich, all jews are not devious clever manipulative geniuses, and all jews do not engage in sinister machinations to control the world.

some societies place a heavy emphasis on education, and value technological advancement, other social groups reject education and fear anything new, guess which one is which?

this has NO effect on the intelligence of an individual from that ethnic group, though it can effect the group as a whole.

Protip: theres some smart well educated and successful rednecks too, but as a group they do tend to be fairly dumb, just as all east coast urbanites are not snobbish, self absorbed nebbish pantywaists, but you can make a fairly safe bet that if you hear a yankee accent, they will be ginormous pussies

 

[abandonconflict]

I met this fucking wanker from Boston who was a real embarrassment to pretty much any group he could be considered associated with. He was a vegan and one time I had the misfortune of eating dinner near him. He ordered "vegetarian nachos" at a restaurant called Munchies in Utila, Honduras. When his food came covered with cheese he started complaining about it. I guess he expected vegan or something. He wouldn't shut the fuck up about it and he was really bent out of shape over it. I wanted to ignore him but he kept going the whole time I ate my meal and I had a lot of cheese on my plate. Cheese is expensive there and you end up paying US prices for plates of food because of it. He was graphically describing the processes of dairy farming and really ruining my meal.

I decided that he deserved his ass whooped but suspended delivery for a second infraction. The next time he pissed me off, I was going to kick his scrawny ass. I never ended up doing so because the next time I saw him, he had a busted lip and a shiner. It wasn't a severe ass whooping he had apparently received but I did ask him with a shit eating grin who had scuffed him up.

Of course he just ignored me and walked away indignantly but I later found out that it was his Austrian girlfriend who was sick of his constantly embarrassing her in public. From what I heard from another acquaintance to whom she vented her emotions in her native language, she tried to talk to him in a civil way and he slapped her. So she beat him up.

This particular chick actually had a personal goal of becoming a US citizen and had asked me about how she could join the Marines. In hindsight, yeah I'm sure she would be a decent recruit, she speaks several languages and we're still friends on Facebook. She made a post a few days ago about her disdain for whining vegans.

 

[abandonconflict]

I do like Austrian people. I've never met one I disliked.

 

[BigNBushy]

seriously.

point 1: africa is fucked up because african SOCIETY is retrograde, and dominated by tribal conflicts and despotism. there is no inborn intellectual defect in african people.
one of the smartest cats i ever met was from Nigeria.

point 2: all jews are not rich, all jews are not devious clever manipulative geniuses, and all jews do not engage in sinister machinations to control the world.

some societies place a heavy emphasis on education, and value technological advancement, other social groups reject education and fear anything new, guess which one is which?

this has NO effect on the intelligence of an individual from that ethnic group, though it can effect the group as a whole.

Protip: theres some smart well educated and successful rednecks too, but as a group they do tend to be fairly dumb, just as all east coast urbanites are not snobbish, self absorbed nebbish pantywaists, but you can make a fairly safe bet that if you hear a yankee accent, they will be ginormous pussies

Yup, plenty of smart africans. But, there are not enough, relative to the entire population, to pull their society out of the hell it finds itself in.

The ratio of smart to dumb is what makes a strong society or a bad one.

 

[Dr Kynes]

I met this fucking wanker from Boston who was a real embarrassment to pretty much any group he could be considered associated with. He was a vegan and one time I had the misfortune of eating dinner near him. He ordered "vegetarian nachos" at a restaurant called Munchies in Utila, Honduras. When his food came covered with cheese he started complaining about it. I guess he expected vegan or something. He wouldn't shut the fuck up about it and he was really bent out of shape over it. I wanted to ignore him but he kept going the whole time I ate my meal and I had a lot of cheese on my plate. Cheese is expensive there and you end up paying US prices for plates of food because of it. He was graphically describing the processes of dairy farming and really ruining my meal.

I decided that he deserved his ass whooped but suspended delivery for a second infraction. The next time he pissed me off, I was going to kick his scrawny ass. I never ended up doing so because the next time I saw him, he had a busted lip and a shiner. It wasn't a severe ass whooping he had apparently received but I did ask him with a shit eating grin who had scuffed him up.

Of course he just ignored me and walked away indignantly but I later found out that it was his Austrian girlfriend who was sick of his constantly embarrassing her in public. From what I heard from another acquaintance to whom she vented her emotions in her native language, she tried to talk to him in a civil way and he slapped her. So she beat him up.

This particular chick actually had a personal goal of becoming a US citizen and had asked me about how she could join the Marines. In hindsight, yeah I'm sure she would be a decent recruit, she speaks several languages and we're still friends on Facebook. She made a post a few days ago about her disdain for whining vegans.

WTF is "vegan Nachos" anyway???

goddam thats some pointless shit.

Nachos are defined by the cheese sauce and the jalapenos splashing about deep within that tidal wave of rich creamy cheesie goodness

 

[abandonconflict]

Apparently vegetarians can eat dairy. He ordered vegetarian nachos. Vegan nachos would be chips.

 

[Harrekin]

I do like Austrian people. I've never met one I disliked.