Thinking of a new light ..

stardustsailor

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So ...
The last parts that were missing ,just arrived today ...
I can ensure you that those drivers are hard to find in stock ..
I had to use some 'affiliates' in Far East ,to get 'em ...

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And here's every pcb used in the case ....
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Somehow ,I 've to find a way to install everything in place and wire 'em up as 'discrete' as possible ..
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SNEAKYp

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That is one packed box SDS, I just want you to flick on those lights so I can drool over it for a second. As usual, good job!
 

salmone

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I like and respect your designs and lot of work...you know this... ...but...

...I would have preferred to have separate control box assembly sinks-leds-fans-sensors...

...so the set sink-fan-led-sensors would have more opportunities to move within the cabinet even at different heights...

...and having separate control box could be plastic or fiber or wood and not affect both the electrical sensors and be less exposed to moisture....

...in my dream design would be the control box out of the closet...

Saludos
 
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stardustsailor

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I like and respect your designs and lot of work...you know this... ...but...

...I would have preferred to have separate control box assembly sinks-leds-fans-sensors...

...so the set sink-fan-led-sensors would have more opportunities to move within the cabinet even at different heights...

...and having separate control box could be plastic or fiber or wood and not affect both the electrical sensors and be less exposed to moisture....

...in my dream design would be the control box out of the closet...

Saludos
...Hmm ,not bad ideas,there ...
 

Chronikool

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I like and respect your designs and lot of work...you know this... ...but...

...I would have preferred to have separate control box assembly sinks-leds-fans-sensors...

...so the set sink-fan-led-sensors would have more opportunities to move within the cabinet even at different heights...

...and having separate control box could be plastic or fiber or wood and not affect both the electrical sensors and be less exposed to moisture....

...in my dream design would be the control box out of the closet...

Saludos
Yes...please re-design it...;)
 

salmone

Well-Known Member
im sds fan ... i know how much thought, money and work goes into the process... and other things... time... patientie to tell...
im only try to open doors and windows to other posibilities...dreams..

i try it learn for first... and sds guod and other here teach me more things....

saludos
 

medicinehuman

Well-Known Member
So ...
The last parts that were missing ,just arrived today ...
I can ensure you that those drivers are hard to find in stock ..
I had to use some 'affiliates' in Far East ,to get 'em ...

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And here's every pcb used in the case ....
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Somehow ,I 've to find a way to install everything in place and wire 'em up as 'discrete' as possible ..
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It's a Beautiful looking thing you got going on there. I'm proud of you.
 

stardustsailor

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I think I'll have to agree with Pet .Mercury has to be retrograde or something ...
Anyway ...
Guys(and girls if any ) ,thank you all for your support and help .

Just yesterday ,I've had a fight (that went kinda personal with a certain RIU member ) about monochromatic and white phospor conversion leds ..(Although nano-pyramids and nano-particles promise new advancements in white light generating from leds ...)...

In the past science has shown ,that in low/mid irradiances most higher plants will truly benefit from supplementing
natural sunlight with R&B monochromatic leds ...

Also plenty of greenies ,leafies and non-flower/fruit producing plants ,can be 'bedded' and grown ,under the same combo of R&B leds ...

Plenty of mj growers had wonderful results just by using R&B or even some more additional bands ....

Ok ?

Now ,I'' ask couple of simple questions ..
( I also hope ,that 'my fiend' with whom we had the sword-crossing ,will give it a try answering those questions,in a more civilised manner ,than yesterday ..With less of his/her characteristic humor,anyway ...)

1) Ok ...If peak absorption in red is in the ~662nm (CHA ) and ~642 nm(CHB ) ..
Then how come the highest Quantum efficiency is at 600-610 nm ?
Why ? If plants need only 662 +642 nm ,to grow fine ...
Why highest RQE is at 600-610 nm (regarding reds ..)


2) The other two absorption peaks in blue wls ...
How come green wls (all of them ! ) have again higher RQE than any of the blue wls ?
Why ?


3 ) Why plants have carotenoids,anthocyanines and many more
photosynthetic accesory or photoprotective pigments ,
since all the plants need to thrive is just Red and blue light ?
Why ?


4 ) Is it just a coincidense or something more than that ,up till the year 2012 almost all the researches done
in horticulture with leds ,were done regarding/utilising monochromatic leds ....
After that year ..( then some really efficient white leds ,start showing up on the market ..)
More and more researches are being done ,regarding the utilisation of different types of PC white leds ...
Just a coincidence ? Or up till now plant biology facts were 'deviated ', due electric led efficiency issues ?


5) After all ..Why I should insist on white light ?
What I've to gain/earn from that ?
Absolutely nothin' ..
I'm simply a fan of the other 'side' ...
I trust that plants need all the wls from ~350 nm up to ~730 nm ...
Not just 450 nm + 630 nm +470 nm +660 nm + ...+ ...
Don't I have the right to 'fight ' over of what I think/trust/believe as 'truth' ?
And if I do not have that right ,here in RIU ...
Then why(for which reason ) taken away and from who ?
( is there a 'curtain' of some sort ? Behind that curtain ,do some persons gain some sort of profit ? )

Waitin '...
 
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stardustsailor

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" Scientists have long known that the chlorophyll in most plants on Earth absorbs blue and red light and less green light. Therefore, chlorophyll appears green. Although some green color is absorbed, it is less than the other colors. Previously, scientists thought plants are not efficient as they could be, because they do not use more green light.

According to scientists, the Sun has a specific distribution of colors of light, emitting more of some colors than others. Gases in Earth's air also filter sunlight, absorbing different colors. As a result, more red light particles reach Earth's surface than blue or green light particles, so plants use red light for photosynthesis. There is plenty of light for land plants, so they do not need to use extra green light. But not all stars have the same distribution of light colors as our Sun. Study scientists say they now realize that photosynthesis on extrasolar planets will not necessarily look the same as on Earth. "

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/spectrum_plants.html


In a grow tent/room there's never plenty of light ...
Not like the Sun's ....
Leds surely ,do not imitate natural sunlight ...
Still white leds (specially combined with red leds 620-660 nm ) ,
can provide a 'rich ' light ,that plants can take advantage of every single nanometer ...

Red alone ,would not help in growing healthy ,productive plants ...
Combined with blue ,things get much better ...
'Throwing' the rest of the wls ,things get even better ....


Now ...To make life easier for a led grow light designer ...
Wouldn't be a great thing ,to have to 'deal' with just one type of led emitter ,that can
provide plenty of Red wls ,along with all the rest ?

Not being obligated ,to install and place different types of monos ?

An emitter that is (almost) as efficient as most of the red leds ?

Well ,that emitter already exists ....
In fact it is not just one ...

You 've CXA's & Vero's ,for starters ...
Soon,others will follow along ,I guess ..
 

PetFlora

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Why Indeed!

Let's use humans and pets as a guide

When both eat primarily fast/junk food diets (commercial pet food being the epitome of FF/JF) eventually they begin to develop diseases and disorders- now epidemic

Same is true for plants

Why?

Because bodies (or plants) need a variety of nutrients + micro nutrients/minerals in BALANCE to maintain optimal health throughout their life cycles

Farmed Salmon (among other fish) are being fed grains (GMO at that) instead of their natural diet- various aquatic life forms

Consequently, many farmed fish are diseased, and cannot be sold for human consumption (not sure about for pets though). Do a search for fish farm whistle-blower videos

What does this have to do with light?

Light is energy.

When reduced to CH A/B, whatever is grown under it will be less than it should be

Long term seed degradation is inevitable

I see it in pets, like German Shepards, which are predisposed to hip dysplasia, a debilitating condition that often requires putting the dog down. And yet, the cause is a lack of proper diet, minerals, and lubricating oils.. My company, Vitality Science, has hundreds of 'miracle' testimonials, when all we did was provide bio-available nutrients that were lacking in the pet's diet
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
I just want to get it done ....
I want to hang it over some girls ...
And prove to everybody ,what kind of fat lies and BS I'm spreading to the 'world' ....
Although other ' fat liers ' like me ,(to mention some :
SupraSPL ,Mr Flux ,Positivity,Chronikool ,PetFlora and all the rest of liers that utilise white leds ),
we 've seen some wonderful results ,but of course ,even those are big fat lies ...

And we Greeks should be hated to the guts ,because we pose a threat ,to every Union and to the world itself ...

And of course you all must/ have to dislike me (although we've never met in person ),'cause I'm greek ,I use white leds and I'm full of big fat lies ...

Get it ,guys and girls ?

Start hating me ...
To your guts ....
'Cause that's the right and sane thing to do ...
 
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locoezon

Active Member
Και να θέλει κάποιος να σε μισήσει δεν μπορεί ορε Sailor.
Άσε μας βραδιάτικα που κάθεσαι και ασχολείσαι με τους haters!
Συνέχισε αυτό που κανεις πρώτα απ'όλα για τον εαυτό σου και οποιος γουστάρει ακολουθεί!


Sorry for my greek language guys,but when i see one Greek guy be apologized to the haters i pissed off!
 
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