winterize on parchment paper?

[WarMachine]

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if I can winterize on parchment paper. I was going to line my plate with it to avoid scraping. Do I have to worry about anything in a chemical sense? I don't mind it failing and leaking,I just don't want it to leach out anything..

 

[SaybianTv]

Are you putting the parchment directly into the vac next or is it a longer air evap? I'll admit thats what I do, don't forget to give your chamber extra warm up time for the alcohol as the parchments not going to transfer heat as quick as direct glass. I've never done it evap to waist so It "should" but i can't speak on the amount of time exposed to the liquid vs the muffin im at in 20 mins once the vac starts.

 

[francy420]

^ Exactly what I do. A few simple folds and you can make a perfect tray with sides out of parchment. If your careful you won't get any holes. Even if you do very little seems to end up leaking out. at least in my experience.

 

[SaybianTv]

Yeah so ugh, do that thing i said and back it with silicone, had my first parchment rip during a manly fold job, if i didn't have the silicone backing it would have all leaked out into the pan instead of it sealing the hole with oil after a 3 inch circle leak. That hasn't happened to me for months, but i would have lost 80 grams of headban to a pie plate

 

[WarMachine]

Damn that would of sucked really bad! Thankfully you caught it!

I wasn't planning on putting it in the vac, was going to let it air evap for a day or two.

 

[Guzias1]

ugh,mm ,so what are you guys getting at? use parchment at your own risk, just be very very careful?

orrr. f that.

i go with F that :]

too many holes and rips in my paper trials..

although i hate scraping with passion, i dgaf about knotty scrapes.. i cant seem to find a better way.. and trusting grain alcohol on surfaces other than stainless steel, and good glass is hard to feel comfortable with..

havent you noticed the parchment paper become even more fragile, and soft after the aolchol has been on it?

grrrrr. just dont seem right..

 

[francy420]

^ yes I have noticed the parchment being more brittle. This is why I am done with it. I am going to just evap on pyrex then transfer to parchment for vac. usually oleoresin is quite runny after evap. Just going to scrape it to the side and pour it onto parchment. it will need some help of course.

 

[SaybianTv]

No i don't experience parchment degradation i don't experience tares either, i riped the parchment making the dish not getting the oil off, thats a different problem that has to do with goo. I can't speak for plate evap, my alcohol is on its way to being a muffin within 20 minutes of starting the vac. People put bubling butane on parchment it seems which im not a fan of.

 

[oilmkr420]

winterizing has to do w a hot gravity filtration w activated charcoal, and a column containing a small amount of diatomaceous earth to filter out fine particles of charcoal. Next is to chill it at -52 for two days, then filtered cold to get the waxes separate from the liquid that has been diluted 3:1 most preferably just to evaporate it again. I never do that, but instead keep the small amount of wax obtained at low pressure rather than lose the top note it would have prior to winterizing. Idk if the shit was more potent, but it wasn't more flavorful thats for sure. So how would you do that on parchment paper? You need a large vial or small vacuum safe dish to vape the diluted oil back to product.

 

[Fadedawg]

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if I can winterize on parchment paper. I was going to line my plate with it to avoid scraping. Do I have to worry about anything in a chemical sense? I don't mind it failing and leaking,I just don't want it to leach out anything..

Cole Palmer shows Silicone as a "B" in Ethanol, which means it changes texture and appearance with time. Something is happening that I don't want in my medications.

Consider lining with PTFE film.

 

[SaybianTv]

Fade any "time span" on that change of texture and appearance? I personally wouldn't do it in a plate evap i felt i only had so much time it had to be a vac only process. I outlined my timeline from pool of fluid to muffin, i've moved onto a new parchment by my first flip. I'm down to retract my technique of "collapsing time" to avoid Cole Palmer's rating but I need a time even a guesstimate of when breakdown occurs.

I dunno what mental block or weird belief system i've picked up about the word Teflon since the 80's but "beyond logic" i just don't like the stuff I don't want to chase the latest tec or get burnt by some cheap knockoff. Its funny the hypocrisy that i won't use silicone for storage of oil either but i store on parchment paper. It's like once it goes past the paper my food has been in I don't think i can survive accidentally injecting more complex forms of non stick surface. I don't fear swallowing a bit of cast iron pan but the reverse being a tefflon pan I think its gunna send shards into my heart "not logical"

I guess for reason sake i'll have to reexamine where ptfe film is and get over having something against it. I could never run around scraping at a production level it's just not sanitary to me, doesn't seem like a lab process to aspire to. But if my parchments getting eaten in anything less than 2 hours by alcohol that should be saturated with oil I guess the process has to die.

 

[WarMachine]

I left the alcohol overnight and the paper didn't feel very different.. But I can't tell if it changed a little bit..

 

[Fadedawg]

Neither Cole Palmer, nor other polymer suppliers include time curves for the reaction.

PTFE is highly inert and would simply pass through your digestive tract unscathed, but if burned releases hydrofluoric acid, which is seriously nasty stuff.

 

[JointOperation]

we ordered a 1000 pieces of circular parchment paper for our chamber off ebay.. they fit perfect and man is it easy to use.