Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[headtreep]

You've grown in high PH/ppm water with no issues? I had early fade issues with 8.5 4-500 ppm water. Switched to RO water and haven't had any issues yet.

I water with a cheap carbon filter that just filters chlorine. These are automated, hand sprayed with hose. My wife when she was lazy cheated and used tap water with castings per recommendation by MM.

I use the same mix and my conditions are harsh. No fade. Veggies like it "hot"

 

[KLITE]

My last run of uk cheese x og kush, thats the soil that cooking now.



These are all different phenos of a cross i attempted between Agent orange and Tahoe OG, some peachy tones about. Still not got around to propperly testing, but these phenos are all agent dominant in bud structure exceptthe first one and just differnt tonalities of peachiness is best way to decribe it. Cant wait to have time to propperly test these...

 

[Steelheader3430]

I've had some phos def. on my current grow. Probably my fault for incorrect usage of teas. I'm going to add some http://www.ebay.com/itm/POTASH-5-lb-bag-SOLUTION-GRADE-0-0-50-Sulfate-of-Potash-Potassium-Sulphate-SOP-/170891226846?pt=Fertilizer_Soil_Amendments&hash=item27c9e92ede but don't know how much. My soil is this one,courtesy of Cann. my question is how much potash should I add to give myself some security from another k def. I've got about 12 cu ft.

Base mix:

1/3 high quality EWC or compost (the quality of this humus source cannot be stressed enough. this is by far the most important aspect of the soil. use poor humus and this will be a nightmare)
1/3 sphagnum peat
1/3 aeration (pumice, rice hulls, lava rock, etc.)

Per cuft of base:

4-5 cups rock dust mix (4x glacial, 1x bentonite, 1x powdered oyster shell, 1x basalt dust) AFAIK the glacial and basalt are relatively interchangeable ..just use whatever is local (this goes for just about anything in ROLS...local is often best).

1/2 cup neem meal and/or karanja meal
1/2 cup crab shell meal
1/2 cup kelp meal


Thats it...


if you want to get fancy with it you can add a few other things such as:


Gypsum: I use 1/2cup per cuft...calcium and sulfur. good to add if you don't have the highest quality EWC.

 

[DANKSWAG]

Hey Steelhead,

Curious about soil temp,, PH, water source, watering practices and soil moisture level. Do you have red stems? Curious where on plant you're seeing leaves with deficiencies like. Are you in veg or flower?
You could apply powdered soft rock phosphate or fish bone meal to add phosphorus.

DankSwag

 

[headtreep]

 

[headtreep]

Here is the deal with LOS or ROLS or whatever you would like to call it.

That pic ^ was nothing more but those few things mentioned.

 

[headtreep]

Man that's a nice tester ^


Ink has some solid gear.

 

[Tjingles]

Has anyone used andesite before? I have 25lbs of that and some glacial. Thinking about mixing them and using that. The andesite is volcanic and suppose to have paramagnatism attributes. If that evem affects anything.

Thanks

 

[KLITE]

A quick question for you guys

How often do you turn your compost pile, and do you water it with enzymes sometimes?

 

[Kalyx]

Been awhile, heres some LOS eye candy...
Great to see this 'reality based' garden style thread has now passed up the veganics thread in replies… Wize UP! LOS ftw!
Blueberry 65 days, CC mix plus baseline humic and insect frass at 1/2 cup cu ft. Grown under 600w Blue.

 

[Steelheader3430]

Hey Steelhead,

Curious about soil temp,, PH, water source, watering practices and soil moisture level. Do you have red stems? Curious where on plant you're seeing leaves with deficiencies like. Are you in veg or flower?
You could apply powdered soft rock phosphate or fish bone meal to add phosphorus.

DankSwag

Sorry Dank I meant potassium. I can't edit either.

 

[headtreep]

Been awhile, heres some LOS eye candy...View attachment 3150968
Great to see this 'reality based' garden style thread has now passed up the veganics thread in views… Wize UP! LOS ftw!
View attachment 3150972Blueberry 65 days, CC mix plus baseline humic and insect frass at 1/2 cup cu ft. Grown under 600w Blue.

Hey Kalyx are those you mothers day flowers, lol. I want that chunky bitch.

 

[DonPetro]

Very nice, Kalyx! Who's the breeder of that beauty?

 

[DANKSWAG]

Here is the deal with LOS or ROLS or whatever you would like to call it.

That pic ^ was nothing more but those few things mentioned.

Headtreep,

What size are your cloth containers?

DankSwag

 

[DANKSWAG]

Kalyx,

Unless it is the strain, with all due respect it appears to me that your flowering leaves are showing signs of phosphorus deficiency, what do you think?

DankSwag

 

[Kalyx]

Danks for the kind words!

Hey Kalyx are those you mothers day flowers, lol. I want that chunky bitch.

Kinda, the day before mothers day I fresh froze that plants trims. Good to see your holding it down over here HT!

Very nice, Kalyx! Who's the breeder of that beauty?

I believe she is a selection of dj short's blueberry. This pheno has a little indica of a buzz for me personally. One dab and your eating another meal! Heres the two 'mothers day' bbs. Flo is the better cut in my garden right now for my personal preference.


Question for all: Why do you think these clone sisters senesced so differently?

Kalyx,

Unless it is the strain, with all due respect it appears to me that your flowering leaves are showing signs of phosphorus deficiency, what do you think?

DankSwag

Yeah probably magnesium too bro!
NPK thinking will only slow you down in LOS. Get it alive and your microbe ecosystem will perfectly make available all your plant asks for! Humus ftw! Main thing to focus on IME is closing loops...

Seriously tho, All the shots were taken the day of (or 2 days before) harvest. Please let me know if you think I need P and why? As far as the colors of the leaves, this genetic is known to look very amazing array of fall purple hues at the end. They finished hot , 90 degrees here, and still turned that much during senescence. Heres the unders of the plant on the left:

 

[KLITE]

I love the maroon tones on the leaves, beautiful. If pic is that late in flowering, ime, a small deficiency of a certain nutrient is almost expected unless you know strain and its needs really well and manage to have it finish with just a light fade of yellow on lower leaves. However i find that growing the living organic way theres never any leftover taste on the weed like with bottled organic nutes and flushing, anyone experience that too?

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

What do ya'll think about air pots (Superoots) and microbes? What's better...air pruning or huge pots?

 

[headtreep]

What do ya'll think about air pots (Superoots) and microbes? What's better...air pruning or huge pots?

I use smart pots or geopots personally. Didn't care for this air pots.

 

[headtreep]

I love the maroon tones on the leaves, beautiful. If pic is that late in flowering, ime, a small deficiency of a certain nutrient is almost expected unless you know strain and its needs really well and manage to have it finish with just a light fade of yellow on lower leaves. However i find that growing the living organic way theres never any leftover taste on the weed like with bottled organic nutes and flushing, anyone experience that too?

Not sure about all that KLITE but in a Living Soil it's natural for a plant to start fading typically depending on cultivars from my observations. Senescence is the word in the plant world for "fade"

Plant senescence is the study of aging in plants. It is a heavily studied subject just as it is in the other kingdoms of life. Plants, just like other forms of organisms, seem to have both unintended and programmed aging. Leaf senescence is the cause of autumn leaf color in deciduous trees.