dwc x auto pot no competion

[tyke1973]

Well the heading might be just me but too much can go wrong with dwc pots,the plants looked brilliant when they was under 1 x 600 hps.

But has soon has i flipped the switch with the other 2 x 600's water temps just got too hot well i think they did i have grown in every hydro set up from airoponics to nft,but not one has come close to auto pot no where near.

I have just wasted 4 week on that system not to mention the money,I just think that so many changes need doing with auto pots from the coulour of them black,ffs who come up with that coulour for a indoor system
in hot rooms.They needed doing in white to reflect the heat i did use black and white polly but it was too late
for the plants.

The roots had all ready started to coulour up,mould of some kind,i did add cannazime,hopeing that would help but i did not really give it long enough to see if it would have worked.From now on i am sticking to auto pots i
know what i get from them i like the coco buffer,

I was lucky that i had some new mums that was taken at the same time has the dwc plants,because they are now in the auto pots and just look so much better health wise,i have multi topped em every single top so should be a bumper harvest there same sizea round 14/16 ".

There on 1.3 ec at the minute i'm gonna veg these for 5/6 week because i want them to full the room out and max the yeild,I put them in the coco yesterday at 10 am i have measured the two plants they have grown near 3 " over night so speaks volumes that does i gonna start doing a weekly up date on this grow.So any one new to growing will be able to see the process.

I will start the photo's from start of flowering think we have all seen vegged plants so i feel no need to bore you with photo's of them vegging.Next sunday i will be putting them on 1.4 ec all the way through vegging till i flower in prob 11/14 days.

I normal flick the 12/12 off at 18 " but going for 2 ft scrog table this time thats why im saying couple week more vegging let them full the table.Got some babies that rooted in a all time pb of 5 days through the big cubes healthy clones too,there now gonna be my new mothers.Forgot to put what im growing 1 x blues 1 x jack herer the cheese i have is gonna be left out this one,but it will be back next time but out doors.

Also ordered 6 seeds from attitude seeds for out door 5 of em hopeing the other time wreck will be a male i want to drop that on the cheese and blues,but more than likely it will turn out to be female normaly the case if ya want a male turns out to be female or not good breeding stock.If its a female im happy had it before loved the hash it made.

The other 5 are sensi seeds super skunk auto's but after reading about this strain ffs i might has well just light dep regular seeds,they say 4/5 week to get it into flowering mode then 8/9 week of flower.either they have not wrote down the cycle right or i have read it wrong.These will be hitting the greenhouse this week,i have done super skunk autos before but a cross a friend has bred him self but he was out of seed for a while so time pushing on i needed seeds so hopeing they produce has much ahs the last auto grow i did i got a lb near abouts from 6.

Got to say attitude is by far the best seed bank to go through ordered the seeds monday they was here wed morning fast service top notch seeds,i can tell all 6 are gonna be nice genetics even this early in there stage of growth,just the growth rate and the leafs and coulour.

Lot going on so i keep you all posted with the grows,If any one has done the sensi seeds,super skunk auto's please let me know whats the crack with em yeild and height wise.

 

[tip top toker]

Absolutely nothing wrong with DWC if you know what you're doing... Not bothering to read the the majority of that post, but the essense of it is that you did not control your res temperatures and are blaming DWC for that mistake.

And how is black autopots such a major issue? Most flowerpots are black, most people use these very happily indoors, so clearly it's not that big a deal.

 

[tyke1973]

You ever wore a black t shirt in hot weather dude,black absorb's heat white reflects it.

You might be right when it comes to useing dwc but i done every system but really struggled with temps in the res with this one how many lights ya running because if you are useing 1 x 600 i would have had great plants but i use 3 600's.can't risk loseing out on a shitty 7/8 oz dry grow of each aint worth the risk.

Black pots are not a issue if you have a buffer like coco or soil,or rock wool

 

[tyke1973]

Absolutely nothing wrong with DWC if you know what you're doing... Not bothering to read the the majority of that post, but the essense of it is that you did not control your res temperatures and are blaming DWC for that mistake.

And how is black autopots such a major issue? Most flowerpots are black, most people use these very happily indoors, so clearly it's not that big a deal.

what set up ya running lights how many

 

[tip top toker]

You ever wore a black t shirt in hot weather dude,black absorb's heat white reflects it.

You might be right when it comes to useing dwc but i done every system but really struggled with temps in the res with this one how many lights ya running because if you are useing 1 x 600 i would have had great plants but i use 3 600's.can't risk loseing out on a shitty 7/8 oz dry grow of each aint worth the risk

You ever grown weed in a black plant pot? It doesn't really mind one bit.

There is nothing wrong with DWC. The issue was with your environment and setup.

And my setup, which no longer exists, is absolutely irrelevant. People grow DWC with a cfl in a computer case, people grow DWC with 20,000w of HPS in a warehouse. It's called controlling the environment, and with hydro, that includes water temperature.

You didn't have your grow dialed in, it was nothing to do with DWC.

 

[tyke1973]

You ever grown weed in a black plant pot? It doesn't really mind one bit.

There is nothing wrong with DWC. The issue was with your environment and setup.

And my setup, which no longer exists, is absolutely irrelevant. People grow DWC with a cfl in a computer case, people grow DWC with 20,000w of HPS in a warehouse. It's called controlling the environment, and with hydro, that includes water temperature.

You didn't have your grow dialed in, it was nothing to do with DWC.

The same enviroment has the auto pots i do,temps get up to 29,i not saying dwc are a waste of time just not worth the risk to me
not when i am getting 26/28 from 2 plants in auto pots.might try it again in the future but ya shunt try mending something that aint broke i learnt my lesson there

I tried them dint like em back to what i know works for me

 

[tip top toker]

My point exactly. This has nothing to do with DWC as a method. It is nothing more than a thread saying that in your grow, autopots are better. In short, this thread is pretty worthless.

 

[tyke1973]

not worthless at all someone might be thinking of going over to dwc in a hot room don't do it ya far better with a buffer.

Ya aint said how many lights ya useing.

Because if your a closet grower 1 x 600 i get that the dwc works mine would have temps would have been around 22/23 it was the heat from the other two 600,but in auto pots the plants can deal with that bit of extra heat.

Same room has i have done countless grows in its keyed in perfect.

Also the worthless thread bit,come on dude some one who is running a real hot room a newbie to this scene might be thinking of useing dwc system my advice is dont use a buffer in the pots rather than dirst roots to water

What yeild are you getting per watt of light,I think once i had scrogged them and the pots would have become more shaded/scrog they might have been ok .

But its a risky biz where in so no more testing new systems stick to what i know works for me

 

[tip top toker]

My grow is, or rather was, irrelevant You still don't get it.

People changing systems without adapting to different requirements is a stupid way to grow. If a user wants to grow using DWC in a hot room, then they should setup the DWC acordingly, whether this is an external reservoir, a water chiller, insulation, whatever.

My grow was 30-32 degrees, the plants did just fine in DWC without the need for anything such as listed above.

 

[tyke1973]

how can it be irrelevant its all baout getting the most from the plants possible,no good commenting when you might have been getting 6/7 oz dry what im saying is plants cope better in hot rooms with a buffer.

I talking uk here dude i should not have even risked it,it should have stook to what i know works FOR ME.

The plants were not right offs they looked ok but the root couloured just told me i would have got more yeild wise from auto in my room

 

[tip top toker]

For you. Exactly. This thread is meaningless.

You didn't get on well with DWC, i did (in a hot room i should add..). How is this of use to anyone?

Oh, and in this hot room, the dwc absolutely destroyed the autopots running alongisde it with regard to yield. In fact destroyed doen't do it justice. I used the autopots for a while due to their ease of use, but soon binned them due to how comparatively poor the yields were.

Now what. Now we have two completely conflicting experiencing. But i'm sure someone will find that useful.

 

[tyke1973]

I like a few things about dwc the way you just have to check water level pump fizzing away,I know that the system can produce a few friends i have home and abroad all use dwc some get a lb per plant but thats with temps lower,i like the simple way it works to be honest but just aint for me.

 

[tyke1973]

For you. Exactly. This thread is meaningless.

You didn't get on well with DWC, i did (in a hot room i should add..). How is this of use to anyone?

Oh, and in this hot room, the dwc absolutely destroyed the autopots running alongisde it with regard to yield. In fact destroyed doen't do it justice. I used the autopots for a while due to their ease of use, but soon binned them due to how comparatively poor the yields were.

Now what. Now we have two completely conflicting experiencing. But i'm sure someone will find that useful.

just click of it then dude ya not been forced to comment ffs.

All these comments comeing from someone who no longer grows,plus won't say what yeild he or she got lol,dunt make no sense,ya might have liked the system but if it only threw ya 6/7 oz dry then its not good is it or should i said the grower is not that good.

Bet ya had a couple of cfl's over them didnt ya

 

[tip top toker]

just click of it then dude ya not been forced to comment ffs

You made the thread, i'm replying. Deal with it. Why would i not reply to highlight the silliness of it? Otherwise some poor newbie might actually read this and go buy some autopots thinking they're better than dwc all because you couldn't use them effectively.

Awww, now you're having to resort to the old unless you say then i don't believe you routine. How cute.

My grow was irrelevant to this thread. How do you not get this? what has my grow got to do with you not controlling your environment?

 

[tyke1973]

some newbie would be better with auto pots if there room is running hot.

Auto pots are a system that you can stick with all the way through years and years of growing
dwc is harder for a newbie because most run hot grows,chuck a cfl of t5 over a dwc and you prob do ok,Or even one 600 if you room is keyed in right but its not a starter out system dude.

 

[tip top toker]

some newbie would be better with auto pots if there room is running hot

Then he could cool the room. You know, environmental control, that thing you don't seem to understand. You can change it you know. It's not fixed.

 

[tyke1973]

ya makle me chuckle ,instead of been on lap top build a room dude get back at it the key board king all hail.

Put some photo's up of ya last en lets have a look

 

[tip top toker]

I'm quite happy where i am thanks

 

[tyke1973]

Then he could cool the room. You know, environmental control, that thing you don't seem to understand. You can change it you know. It's not fixed.

But most newbies are new hence newbie it teks time to learn the in and outs of getting the room where ya want it,so to start with the rooms newbies normaly run are hot,come on we have all been there.

 

[tip top toker]

But most newbies are new hence newbie it teks time to learn the in and outs of getting the room where ya want it,so to start with the rooms newbies normaly run are hot,come on we have all been there.

One of the first things newbies are also told is to run soil. So this seems like a long winded thread containing almost nothing of use aimed at a tiny minority of growers.

I don't know why you're debating though. This whole thread is about you not controlling your res temperatures and as such failing. Would have seemed much more sensible to have simply state keep an eye on res temperatures when growing DWC and be done with this entire thread. Oh wait, the thread would still be pointless; one of the first thing dwc growers are told is to moniter and regulate res temps.