TWEED CANT GROW WELL SO THEY IRRADIATE(COLD PASTURIZATION)

[oddish]

The problem with all this "So far" stuff is that almost all the product being sold right now came from the MMAR system.
I know this flies in the face of what some people are saying, but most of the product that has needed irradiation or has been reported as having mites, etc all came from MMAR operations and was brought into their facilities to finish growing and to ship. Some, from what I understand, was already packaged and ready to ship and they simply bought it and shipped it off with their labels (after testing of course).

Once these guys have fresh strains that they've taken from start to finish I would expect the quality to increase substantially.

The other problem is that companies like Tweed were approved before the "new" QA standards came into place and things got tougher. Security requirements, QA requirements, etc all increased over time and most of it happened after Tweed was already approved and working in their facility. My personal theory is that there was a deal made somewhere to let them get going quickly and produce bulk product to solve for the problem and then they would impose all the hard times after that was established so they aren't holding back the entire industry.

 

[Jackal69]

I think training is key. There are probably a lot of people who are not master growers, but want to be involved because they really care about patients. If you have the passion and really want to learn, you will absorb the knowledge quickly. If the right training systems are in place, everybody is on the same page and standards are set with no exception, then theres no reason why these facilities can't produce a consistent quality product every time. It seems like tweed may have hired people with growing experience and just said alright, heres what we need , go do it, and without setting a standard, and showing people that every task needs to be done this way, all the time, by everybody, its just not going to work. I'm a business manager, sorry for the rant.

Training is the key?? you don't throw millions of dollars at a OJT (on the job training) Would the world put up with gramma's morphine being inconsistent and lower grade... then blame training a new pill maker.... nope that company would go under just as fast as the recall of those meds were made. They want to put "Medical Grade Marijuana" on their websites then they should be beholden to that statement, black market looks better than some of the pics I have seen, and it wasn't irradiated either..... the standard was set from the old MMAR HC supply which from what I hear wasn't good at all, they should have used some DG'ed or homegrowers MMJ as a standard, I don't need sterile MMJ (I realise some patients do because of immunity issues but let them decide if they want irradiated) but to say you don't then do it ... wierd

 

[leaffan]

Why does each LP have their own medical document?
I don't believe that is a HC regulation. Pretty sure HC just states what has to be on a medical document, not that each LP has to have their own...
What happens in a year from now, is every doctor supposed to have 50-100 different medical documents on hand?

 

[Jackal69]

mites.... maybe they should have quarantined what was bought or maybe they should actually grown their own from the start like they were suppose to

lots o hearsay, no proof that it's all the fault of MMAR though

 

[Jackal69]

Why does each LP have their own medical document?
I don't believe that is a HC regulation. Pretty sure HC just states what has to be on a medical document, not that each LP has to have their own...
What happens in a year from now, is every doctor supposed to have 50-100 different medical documents on hand?

that's so it hard to change and shop around so the dirt bags can have a piece of the action too

 

[oddish]

mites.... maybe they should have quarantined what was bought or maybe they should actually grown their own from the start like they were suppose to

lots o hearsay, no proof that it's all the fault of MMAR though

I'm certainly not blaming the MMAR. It could have been poor transportation or any other factor.
The reality is that most of these plants were not planted and grown specifically for the MMPR program, they were purchased from strain providers, MMAR grows, etc.

Time will tell though.. I just hope they keep approving LPs in the meantime and don't let Tweed's mess slow down the process.

 

[Jackal69]

I really don't have a hate on for LP's, just no ones found a great LP out there as of yet(or their keeping it a secret) LOL
and we as patients do have to stand up to the ones that aren't doing what they should

 

[leaffan]

that's so it hard to change and shop around so the dirt bags can have a piece of the action too

Even with a generic medical document, once a patient signs up with an LP it is a pain to change...Having unique medical documents doesn't make it easier or not if you want to change....The only advantage , if it is one, that I can see is that the patient has to already have their mind made up prior to seeing the doctor.

 

[Jackal69]

The only way it would work on the patients behalf is, one med document, good for 1 year, can access any LP or many at the same time, with database to make sure patient doesn't go over script

 

[oddish]

The reality is that they're treating it like a prescription. You can't get your prescription filled multiple places, you would need a second prescription for that. They're likely concerned about being able to control the limits, etc and the last thing they care about is how easy it is for patients to get meds - that's simply what they've been told they must take care of.

 

[Jackal69]

but you can get the same generic drugs(made by the same drug maker) or brand name drugs at different pharmacies, unlike this MMRP.

I can get my triple script sent to another pharm if I choose to just gotta tell my local pharm to do it for me

 

[Jackal69]

besides if the LP's had a strain for every aliment that worked for every patient then sure, but they don't.... so what happens because you cant buy a sample before your locked in with them... who knows if any strains from any LP is going to be the best for you ... this is why you should be able to go from LP to LP unhampered for a year

 

[awesomesound]

Well I aint giving up my pink slip for an LP, just encase they only PPL to patients that still hold their pink slips, once you give it to a LP it's gone forever, I have never heard of anyone getting back their actual MMAR form as of yet. So yeah I maybe wrong in my words about it but I'm no lawyer LOL..... It also helps the cause because they can't say mine was handed back to HC

All Patients that are sending meds back, demand your ATP back as it is yours and as per the courts still valid regardless of the MMPR If your Had a ATP on or before Sept 30 2013, people need to stop and think , the BC Patients got the Extract regulation overturned, and contrary to some, there are far more regulations to be argued in court in Feb and one of them is the consitutional challange to this Regulation. once that is over turned the only access to oils, eddibles, hash etc will be the Compassion Clubs as under the MMPR only dried Cannabis can be sold and they and their growers are already providing, the same goes for the vending machines as you need a address to put it somewhere, !!! It is already a failed progam.

 

[Jackal69]

dude once the LP gets your MMAR pinky they send it to HC which file 13's it..... good luck getting that back they may offer to send you to another LP.... but I never ever heard of someone getting it back after it was sent back to HC

 

[awesomesound]

I'm certainly not blaming the MMAR. It could have been poor transportation or any other factor.
The reality is that most of these plants were not planted and grown specifically for the MMPR program, they were purchased from strain providers, MMAR grows, etc.

Time will tell though.. I just hope they keep approving LPs in the meantime and don't let Tweed's mess slow down the process.

Yes purchesed from PPL's and DG's the same ones how where threatend with arrest if they didn't destroy their meds with cat litter and water, COME ON !!!!!!

 

[tripp96]

Well...

After reading 12 pages of this and seeing all that's been going on since their first shipment, I'm pretty bummed out by Tweed.....Especially as a young (student) investor who put in some of my hard-earned cash into their company...

It looked nice a few weeks ago, before talk of irradiation and before seeing pictures of those shitty buds...

My condolences, Johnny, and to all the others who got ripped off here....Now I'm debating whether to cost-average down when their share price hits rock-bottom and see if they can recoop something within the next year, or to sell outright at a loss....

Kinda hurts because this is something I believe in, and I thought that Tweed, being a large company with compassionate pricing options, would uphold these values....

But irradiating product? It doesn't look like they have the staff to manage every square inch that they have to cover.... If there's plants being damaged and need for irradiation?...

Thoughts on this? Think they can swing their shit into gear over the forthcoming months -- and harvests -- or are they going to be old news pretty soon?

 

[ru4r34l]

my prediction because of all the dumb ass things tweed is doing will hurt them in the short term by having patients leave them for "greener and lush pastures" then in the long run they wont have the money to continue to survive ... leading to the first fall of a big LP

Tweed Inc has loads of money, and despite all the issues will not fall BUT.. don't let the LP's fool you the money is not being spent on a superior medical product! where it's going is anybody's guess.

Well...

After reading 12 pages of this and seeing all that's been going on since their first shipment, I'm pretty bummed out by Tweed.....Especially as a young (student) investor who put in some of my hard-earned cash into their company...

It looked nice a few weeks ago, before talk of irradiation and before seeing pictures of those shitty buds...

My condolences, Johnny, and to all the others who got ripped off here....Now I'm debating whether to cost-average down when their share price hits rock-bottom and see if they can recoop something within the next year, or to sell outright at a loss....

Kinda hurts because this is something I believe in, and I thought that Tweed, being a large company with compassionate pricing options, would uphold these values....

But irradiating product? It doesn't look like they have the staff to manage every square inch that they have to cover.... If there's plants being damaged and need for irradiation?...

Thoughts on this? Think they can swing their shit into gear over the forthcoming months -- and harvests -- or are they going to be old news pretty soon?

They will get it fixed, you should have the details as an investor.

regards,

 

[tripp96]

Thanks, ru4r34I,

I've been doing a lot of reading...and have a lot of info....Aside from the negative hype it looks good, but I know that hype and bad publicity tend to carry a lot of weight when it comes to investing... A shudder in one direction ends up causing an avalanche...

I will likely cost-average my position, though, and maybe even try to become a registered customer if they fix their shit and my doctor is in agreement....

 

[Jackal69]

Well...

After reading 12 pages of this and seeing all that's been going on since their first shipment, I'm pretty bummed out by Tweed.....Especially as a young (student) investor who put in some of my hard-earned cash into their company...

It looked nice a few weeks ago, before talk of irradiation and before seeing pictures of those shitty buds...

If that happened to you as a patient would you stay? As an investor I believe your questions are answered with the first question.

 

[Devil Lettuce]

Thanks, ru4r34I,

I've been doing a lot of reading...and have a lot of info....Aside from the negative hype it looks good, but I know that hype and bad publicity tend to carry a lot of weight when it comes to investing... A shudder in one direction ends up causing an avalanche...

I will likely cost-average my position, though, and maybe even try to become a registered customer if they fix their shit and my doctor is in agreement....

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