Solar roads.... I guess they figured out which glass to use...
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killemsoftly
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How soon til they start implementing this?
Do you think it will be installed and costs/profits recouped via a toll/road tax?
Do you think it will be installed and costs/profits recouped via a toll/road tax?
WORDZofWORDZCRAFT
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the answer is never
Dr Kynes
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so, what happens when there is an earthquake, subsidence, a landslide, a car crash, etc that will break the segments?
the cost per Km of high tech glass solar road would be prohibitive, and maintenance would be a huge ongoing expense
it needs HEATING in cold winter areas????
how would it withstand the punishing desert heat?
what will we do with all the now largely useless asphalt?
"stormwater pollution"????
ohh, smelly hippies, you so cray cray.
TheMystified420
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They can't afford to keep up with the roads as they are now, I don't see how they think we could afford that.
heckler73
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These devices are made for low dynamic-stress environments (hence, "parking lots").
I can see them being useful in that situation, but you are correct in questioning the opportunity costs of these devices. What are the costs to scale up production?
As for the question of sudden dynamic shift, the shape (hexagon) lends itself to efficient dispersion of lateral forces. It is the shape most chosen by nature for assembly (e.g. benzene ring, honey-combs, bubble groupings, etc.)
If they can withstand a dynamic force of 5x static load, they are good enough for earthquakes. As they stated, they passed agency stress tests, so I believe they are adequately engineered. The fact they are essentially "Plug'n'Play" would make repairs net-cost effective, actually. No need to dig up large sections to fix a "pothole", etc. Unless we are talking about geological damage, of course.
However, I couldn't help but notice they have their demo assembled on a concrete slab with intricate underlying infrastructure. If that is a necessary part of the package, then this is hardly an "efficient" means to an end. It's just a fancy complication...great fodder for Sci-Fi novels and YouTube utopian dreams. Maybe an impoverished Saudi Kingdom will buy these to replace the skeletons of foreign workers they currently use as rebar.
Leftover asphalt? Send it back to Alberta to fill up the asphalt juice pits they already dug up
PetFlora
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Oh they can afford it. Keep in mind the Fed prints fiat money 24/7.
They just need to stop pissing trillions away to prop up puppet governments, unnecessary military and military hardware
Hell, cut Michelle's (or is it Michael) vacations off with her huge entourage would do it
Their priorities are not our priorities, but we keep voting them in
Commander Strax
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would be a good idea on a parking structure on the top floor
the issue with roof top is the roof material will eventually need replacement
I am sure it will get better, this is the first apple computer
the issue with roof top is the roof material will eventually need replacement
I am sure it will get better, this is the first apple computer
natro.hydro
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How well do you think those would hold up to a snow plow??? Concrete gets descimated by snow plow blades every winter in my area idk if these would be any different.
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Dr Kynes
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the hexagons may shift without shattering, but the connections between them will break rendering them impotent until all the breaks in the circuit are repaired.These devices are made for low dynamic-stress environments (hence, "parking lots").
I can see them being useful in that situation, but you are correct in questioning the opportunity costs of these devices. What are the costs to scale up production?
As for the question of sudden dynamic shift, the shape (hexagon) lends itself to efficient dispersion of lateral forces. It is the shape most chosen by nature for assembly (e.g. benzene ring, honey-combs, bubble groupings, etc.)
If they can withstand a dynamic force of 5x static load, they are good enough for earthquakes. As they stated, they passed agency stress tests, so I believe they are adequately engineered. The fact they are essentially "Plug'n'Play" would make repairs net-cost effective, actually. No need to dig up large sections to fix a "pothole", etc. Unless we are talking about geological damage, of course.
However, I couldn't help but notice they have their demo assembled on a concrete slab with intricate underlying infrastructure. If that is a necessary part of the package, then this is hardly an "efficient" means to an end. It's just a fancy complication...great fodder for Sci-Fi novels and YouTube utopian dreams. Maybe an impoverished Saudi Kingdom will buy these to replace the skeletons of foreign workers they currently use as rebar.
Leftover asphalt? Send it back to Alberta to fill up the asphalt juice pits they already dug up
also, Fuck Yo Benzine Rings! everybody knows that phenols are whats hot in the streets.
Dr Kynes
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or snow chains on 18wheelers, or those dipshits who leave snow tires on their shit until may.
NLXSK1
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This would put an enormous amount of money into the pockets of Obama donors...
Solyndra squared...
Solyndra squared...
Ceepea
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Well, since they're independent from one another, I suppose they would need to be replaced, just like the roads we have now need to be replaced when they're damaged. Not sure what the 'lifetime' of these panels are.... could be longer than asphalt, could be shorter.Any comments one way or another are just speculation at this point.
I'm wait to see what they say before jumping to conclusions.
If it needs heating, you could use the power it produces to heat itself on cold days. Such a nay sayer when you know so very little about the product.....
No idea, seems like that would be something they might have thought about.
Oh crazy nay sayers, you reject new ideas before knowing ANYTHING about them.
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natro.hydro
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No offense bro but you sound like the same kind of person that thinks the fossil fuel problem is solved by ethanol....
Not saying it is not innovative and new (pretty sure I saw this on yahoo like a year ago) but the tech just might not be at that level yet to mass produce at a resonable cost as most new tech in its infancy is always expensive until they find ways to manufacture it better.
Not saying it is not innovative and new (pretty sure I saw this on yahoo like a year ago) but the tech just might not be at that level yet to mass produce at a resonable cost as most new tech in its infancy is always expensive until they find ways to manufacture it better.
Ceepea
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It's hard to say really. I saw a video about 'solar roads' a few years ago as well, but they were still testing glass to traction in all-weather and for durability. Not sure how extensive the testing has been on the current model of either for that matter.
Based on that video, no one can really tell the viability of the product. It's just speculation, speculation, speculation... People love to pretend they know everything.
Dr Kynes
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and thus we meet the great difference between a Conservative and a Liberal.
Liberals embrace every new idea, no matter how wild it may be. they want "Change" regardless if all that supports the "Change" is "Hope"
Conservatives resist new ideas until they are DEMONSTRATED to be not only functional but superior to the old ways.
as a Conservative, i dont jump headfirst into strange waters.
i also dont walk behind unknown horses, or try to pet a stranger's dog.
Ceepea
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'Embrace every new idea'?... Do conservatives always paint everything with broad strokes?
Without really knowing anything about it, you already dismiss the entire concept. lol
Dr Kynes
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really? i dismissed the entire concept because i have doubts about it's utility and economic feasibility?
do liberals respond to all doubts with wild exaggerations of the interlocutor's position?
if experience has taught us anything, then yes, of course they do.
Ceepea
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Look in the mirror. If a right-wing. conservative think tank/company/politician didn't come up with the idea, it sucks.
Dr Kynes
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this notion (calling it an Idea is a stretch) is simply unfeasible.
if you want to use this notion, go for it, just dont expect me to pay for it.
also, dont expect the eco-lobby or the unions to get behind it either.