Red1966
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Space Dragon just returned from ISS with 3,500lbs of stuff.
Russia kicks US off of ISS
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Red1966
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What was wrong with his "story"? Are you claiming NASA lied about their new "task"?
Red1966
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Until you realize you're going to die up there when the food, water, or air run out.
Red1966
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I suppose its better than being unemployed.
Red1966
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NASA was re-tasked. You are so smug in your misconceptions you make a fool of yourself nearly every time you post.
Red1966
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Sadly, you are mistaken. It seems to be a fundamental need for humans to follow some one or thing.
UncleBuck
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i really and honestly hope you recited that into a mirror.
londonfog
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you making my point for me.
Rob Roy
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That's a loaded question in the sense that it implies the non or low occurence of something makes it impossible or illogical.to implement.
Can you give me an example of ANY coercive government that is free and permits people to live their lives unmolested?
Thinking that a society that is free is chaotic is what they want you to think. of course that doesn't explain the worlds highest prison population does it?
Everybody should do whatever the fuck they want to as long as those acts do not interfere with another person or their justly acquired property.
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Rob Roy
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Borders on logic are mostly self imposed by peoples learning, indoctrination and inhibitions to striking the root.
I don't think every individual should agree with every law. Most laws have a bias away from freedom and peace and good people should ignore them.
I think every individual should be free to seek his own path until he aggresses against another. Being automatically encompassed in another persons vision of how things ought to be is not freedom.
I would create an absence of a central authority. Where is your evidence that a free society is more chaotic than a coercive society?
Rob Roy
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No, free people don't need or want (coercive) leaders. That does not imply all people want to be free, understand freedom or have the capacity, willingness and integrity to let others be free.
There will be parasites that are good at herding the cud chewers and sycophants. They rely on the herd singing their praises for them. "Four legs good, two legs better". Public schools help them accomplish their goals too.
Not all people are alike, other than the obvious physical needs, some peoples needs vary. Parasites need a host organism. Best to swat mosquitoes.
londonfog
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and their lies the problem..people will do what they want and it will interfere with another person. You might think its ok to do something whilst others might think not. What do we have to settle our differences.. Right now we have LAWS which are use to govern and make this world a bit more civilize. Do tell me HOW we are to get everyone to "do the right thing" without violating the next man/women? Who decides whats right and wrong? What do we do if someone does something wrong? Who would make these rules. What if you disagree? How are problems solved? Please share with us how your utopia works.
Very easy to just type "Everybody should do whatever the fuck they want to as long as those acts do not interfere with another person or their justly acquired property".
Now explain to us how this will work in the world we live in today.
Rob Roy
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Okay. Those are valid concerns. Thank you for bringing them up. I will try to address them a bit later. Have to feed the chickens now and catch a ride.
Rob Roy
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London Fog. This might be helpful.
http://conscienceofavoluntaryist.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-voluntaryist-society-would-function.html
So you really think its possible for the US to come up with a heavy lift rocket, design, engineered, and tested for reliability in the next 6 years?
They can decide tomorrow to stop giving us a ride, nothing was set in stone.
NASA already delivered report saying development of a heavy lift rocket is not possible due to budgetary discrepancies. To my knowledge NASA has not received further funding.
http://www.universetoday.com/82535/nasa-says-it-cannot-produce-heavy-lift-rocket-on-time-budget/
What was this about dumb?
Many people are lazy and do not want to think for themselves and are quite happy being told what to do. Don't mistake that for being universal.
londonfog
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I think the USA will have this completed by the year 2017 or even sooner. Stop thinking NASA and think more private companies. Try goggle... Space X, Alliant, Boeing, Orbital Sciences, Lockheed Martin. All these companies are involved with the development of launch vehicles, orbitals, and crew capsules. Hell here I am thinking you are a stocks man... are you telling me you have ZERO stocks in any of these companies? You sure seem out of the loop on this one.
I'm willing to bet the Russian will not stop giving us a ride tomorrow ..That my friend is written in stone. Do your homework and you will know why.
londonfog
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I read the blog and it still did not answer the question. For an example they speak of "Dispute Resolution Organization". Well who the hell would make up this DRO ?? Who makes the rules for the DRO ??? How do you keep them honest and fair. Seems no different then a government.
Unless we start breathing some magical air of love for each other, we can never have a world were Everybody should do whatever the fuck they want to as long as those acts do not interfere with another person or their justly acquired property. It just won't work. You my friend would be creating more chaos then we have now. Humans have too many emotions that would interfere with your utopia. Anger, Fear, Envy, Pride, etc...would all began to destroy what you think would be peace on earth. I guess if you get rid of human emotions you might have a chance.
Great, 3 years, if your projections do not come true and we still aren't able to lift heavy payloads into space without the help of foreign countries, then I will call you an idiot and you can accept the title most graciously. Until then I am correct.