UncleBuck
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killemsoftly, it is still 1 hour and 40 minutes before 1:30 AM PDT, i win the bet.
Satellite data proves Earth has not been warming the past 18 years - it's stable
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Nutes and Nugs
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UncleBuck
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i guess i won two days in a row then.
is the homogay the only thing on your mind, ever?
you might need a new hookup, i think you;re getting gay weed.
Nutes and Nugs
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You may be right.
Cancel my order please.
Nutes and Nugs
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And BTW, you brought it up First, 2 nights in a row, not me.
Harrekin
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Are you genuinely retarded?
Your glass analogy makes no sense, if its supported by solid ice, its not fucking freely floating, is it?
Londonfag fucks up again...as usual.
londonfog
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when did this glass of WATER and ice become solid?? so eager to say gotcha, that you are not paying attention
londonfog
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and this is the very reason you can't learn anything
Harrekin
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If the ice was packed together in an enclosed space, its hardly floating freely...
Different physics occur.
Try a book, you jackass.
Want a link to Neil DeGrass Tyson stating catagorically that if ALL sea ice melted it wouldnt effect sea levels at all?
Cos hes such a dishonest "unsciencey" bloke, isnt he?
EDIT: And for the record, I believe humans have an effect on the natural cycles, but my opinion is "data set too short".
Red1966
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Can't argue my point, I see.
londonfog
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You have no point . The glass is filled with water and ice. One being a solid and one not...so how the fuck is this glass solid ice. Damn you dumb
Harrekin
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If you had a glass of water and ice floating freely and put ice cream on top of it, the glass would overflow initially when you placed the ice cream (invalidating your analogy) but once it displaced its mass in the liquid, the level wouldnt change upon melting.
Do you need me to draw it in crayon for you?
londonfog
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when you put ice in a glass of water your ice don't float??? Wow you have magic ice...please share link. I have no problem reading others opinions.
londonfog
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if you had a glass full of water and ice and put two scoops of ice creme on top. you would have a mess on your table. The Ice cream would over flow the glass. End of story
Harrekin
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So who is dolloping the ice cream?
You realise the dollop is already done? The sea ice already displaces its entire mass in the water.
Are you genuinely intellectually disabled, Ill honestly try explain it for you without being a dick if you are.
londonfog
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I'm good ..you keep thinking what you want..I will do the same
Harrekin
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You ever wondered why boats have a large surface area relative to their mass?
You're completely ignorant and need to read about this, Im sorry to say but youre TOTALLY wrong on this.
If you really want to be worried, worry about desalination, not sea level rise from melting sea ice
Doer
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Come on! It is all of that. The ice shelf is floating but attached. So it is not floating all the way. But, that is not the point, When it breaks, the water does not suddenly raises 4 feet, like one too many cubes in a glass.You ever wondered why boats have a large surface area relative to their mass?
You're completely ignorant and need to read about this, Im sorry to say but youre TOTALLY wrong on this.
If you really want to be worried, worry about desalination, not sea level rise from melting sea ice
It breaks apart and and changes the salinity and the melting accelerates. There is disturbance in the balance, Already, local desalination begins, What happens? Faster melting.
Now that is NOTHING compared to waht is next. The shelves are dramatically thick at the front, 1100 feet, and 200 feet above the water and much thicker as you go landward.
The front of the Ross Ice Shelf has an average thickness of 1100 feet (330 meters), or which the top 100-200 feet (30-60 meters) presents itself as a cliff above the water line. The southern interior of the shelf becomes steadily thicker, reaching 2300 feet (700 meters) in thickness.
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But, that is nothing,
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The Ross Ice Shelf is a glacier-fed ice shelf. Eight glaciers flow down from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (Antarctic Plateau) through the Transantarctic Mountains feed into the Shelf and gradually add bulk to it. At the same time, the freezing of seawater below the ice mass increases the thickness of the ice from 40 cm (16 in) to 50 cm (20 in).
http://www.eoearth.org/view/article/155788/
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So the Ross especially, but all Shelves, actually are semi-floating. They are piling up on land and they are bulk freezing sea water below. But, they are attached across wide bays and constitute GIANT ICE DAMS. And like any dam, what they hold back is a lot more mass than the dam.
We know that almost all the Ice the world is behind these shelves. They are being held on land and allowed to pile up miles thick of ice inland, Miles thick, being held by fragile dams of ice that are melting, past no return,
47 of these dams hold back from the ocean, most all the ICE in the world.
The Ross Ice Shelf is the largest ice shelf in the world with an area of roughly 182,000 square miles (472,000 km²), and is about the size of Spain. This ice topographic landform is one of the 47 named Antarctic Ice Shelves.
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Big, big trouble, since there is no way to reverse this, So the shelves are nothing,
But when the dams break, Good Gawd Ya'll! That could wipe us out and make room for new and less clever species,
1500 years is all we have had of many discoveries and 3000 years could be the the total timespan of Scientific Human Civilization, That is about what the Egyptians did, Oh well, just give up, I guess. Oh NO. Do something, to make is so much worse, Good monkeys.
But, you know there are already Elysium outer colonies, and deep Inner Sanctums, for a few, being planned right now.
Oh well, if we could just leave it alone and burn more coal, we would be fine. If we go all nuke, who cares? Ice Age in only 1500 years. We will have piles of hot waste to keep us warm?
Why can we not save mankind from the cold? Why are we just giving in to the Purple Spaceship types that believe the world will be better without humans, That is what they are teaching the kids. I saw it last night on TV.
Say What????
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Harrekin
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Salinity increases the rate of melting, the rest tl;dr.Come on! It is all of that. The ice shelf is floating but attached. So it is not floating all the way. But, that is not the point, When it breaks, the water does not suddenly raises 4 feet, like one too many cubes in a glass.
It breaks apart and and changes the salinity and the melting accelerates. There is disturbance in the balance, Already, local desalination begins, What happens? Faster melting.
Now that is NOTHING compared to waht is next. The shelves are dramatically thick at the front, 1100 feet, and 200 feet above the water and much thicker as you go landward.
The front of the Ross Ice Shelf has an average thickness of 1100 feet (330 meters), or which the top 100-200 feet (30-60 meters) presents itself as a cliff above the water line. The southern interior of the shelf becomes steadily thicker, reaching 2300 feet (700 meters) in thickness.
-----------------
But, that is nothing,
-----------------------------
The Ross Ice Shelf is a glacier-fed ice shelf. Eight glaciers flow down from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (Antarctic Plateau) through the Transantarctic Mountains feed into the Shelf and gradually add bulk to it. At the same time, the freezing of seawater below the ice mass increases the thickness of the ice from 40 cm (16 in) to 50 cm (20 in).
http://www.eoearth.org/view/article/155788/
-------------------------------
So the Ross especially, but all Shelves, actually are semi-floating. They are piling up on land and they are bulk freezing sea water below. But, they are attached across wide bays and constitute GIANT ICE DAMS. And like any dam, what they hold back is a lot more mass than the dam.
We know that almost all the Ice the world is behind these shelves. They are being held on land and allowed to pile up miles thick of ice inland, Miles thick, being held by fragile dams of ice that are melting, past no return,
47 of these dams hold back from the ocean, most all the ICE in the world.
The Ross Ice Shelf is the largest ice shelf in the world with an area of roughly 182,000 square miles (472,000 km²), and is about the size of Spain. This ice topographic landform is one of the 47 named Antarctic Ice Shelves.
-----------------
Big, big trouble, since there is no way to reverse this, So the shelves are nothing,
But when the dams break, Good Gawd Ya'll! That could wipe us out and make room for new and less clever species,
1500 years is all we have had of many discoveries and 3000 years could be the the total timespan of Scientific Human Civilization, That is about what the Egyptians did, Oh well, just give up, I guess. Oh NO. Do something, to make is so much worse, Good monkeys.
But, you know there are already Elysium outer colonies, and deep Inner Sanctums, for a few, being planned right now.
Oh well, if we could just leave it alone and burn more coal, we would be fine. If we go all nuke, who cares? Ice Age in only 1500 years. We will have piles of hot waste to keep us warm?
Why can we not save mankind from the cold? Why are we just giving in to the Purple Spaceship types that believe the world will be better without humans, That is what they are teaching the kids. I saw it last night on TV.
Say What????