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I'm about to set a flowering tent in my grow room I have 600w led full spectrum on the way.. The flower tent is 3x2x3ft I think.. I'ma be doin sea of green and only allowing the lo to flower for 3-5 weeks.. 3 weeks veg 3-5 flow er. . I have blue dream and
OG kush mothers.. and 24 BD clones on day 5 after placement into rockwool.cubes and dome.. will the 600w led be too much ? Or the grow tent too small? I got the short stacker from agromax n my veg room is 5x5x15 triangular attic.. i plan on putting the flower tent on the right side and just of sea of greening it.. what yall think? Heighth heat, wattage etc.. it should be the more wattage the more yield so that's what I'm goin for.. "my first indoor cfl grow with handmade fixtures" is my thread

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Icemud420

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I am using the intelligent gro lights (2x 228w models in a 2.5'x5'x7' tent) and having very good results! The dimming feature is nice because it saves extra electricity when plants are small and in veg, and full intensity isn't needed. Also very very quiet running compared to my other cheaper chinese panels. I would highly recommend them.
 

Icemud420

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Neither is their site...cant see any Info on the LEDs used/drivers used or spectrum given...thatz enough for me to say no thankz...oh and the fact it is another re-branded thing to 'clog' the market and take advantage of a would-be customer...

http://ctlite.en.alibaba.com/product/1217894912-0/Latest_DIY_aquarium_led_light_bar_for_coral_reef_with_controller_bridgelux_led_lighting_for_marine_tank.html

I want to say this is incorrect information. I know the owner of this company personally and even though yes, the lights are manufactured by CTlight, the specs, layout, diode wavelengths and other things are different in the Intelligent Gro lights. Intelligent Gro's panels are different than ctlite's panels on alibaba and Intelligent gro works with CTlight and has their panels made differently. Also since China does not have as good of quality control, all lights once they are manufactured and arrive in the US, are put through a 3 part inspection process to ensure quality. Also CT lite only offers 2 year warrenty, Igro offers a 3 year. Also, the website is actually being worked on currently and there will be full specs on the website within the next 1-2 months.

not being confrontational in any matter, but rather correcting your misguided information.

I will be hosting a journal featuring these lights here on roll it up, but you can also look me up on google and see my current journal on other sites and on the youtube.
 

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Chronikool

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I want to say this is incorrect information. I know the owner of this company personally and even though yes, the lights are manufactured by CTlight, the specs, layout, diode wavelengths and other things are different in the Intelligent Gro lights.
Please elaborate... on the specs and 'other different thingz'?

So they are the same diodes in a different arrangement?

Intelligent Gro's panels are different than ctlite's panels on alibaba and Intelligent gro works with CTlight and has their panels made differently.
So they are made by CTlight but are made differently...?

Also since China does not have as good of quality control, all lights once they are manufactured and arrive in the US, are put through a 3 part inspection process to ensure quality.
3 part inspection process....??? hmmmm soundz like 'LED grow panel hype'

not being confrontational in any matter, but rather correcting your misguided information.
Fair enough....i will wait for answerz....
 

Icemud420

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Please elaborate... on the specs and 'other different thingz'?

So they are the same diodes in a different arrangement?



So they are made by CTlight but are made differently...?



3 part inspection process....??? hmmmm soundz like 'LED grow panel hype'



Fair enough....i will wait for answerz....

I do not know the complete details because I am not the company (just a test grower for them), but I know that different diodes are used (different wavelengths), internal parts have been modified for modular construction, case modifications have been made as well as layout modifications of the spread of the panels, as well as the whole blend of diodes used are different. I would suggest writing to Igro for the details, the owner is a very nice guy and heavily involved in making the best lights possible with the technology that is available. (yeah it may sound marketing hype like but it is the truth). Matter of fact there is another model of these lights by AgroMax or something like that, same look, but they don't even feature the custom controllers. (same manufacture, but different parts/design/layout).

As far as I know, and again I would write to the manufacturer to confirm this, but they go through a complete inspection once they arrive in the US, they are run for a certain amount of days to make sure everythings working properly, cases are opened, wire and solder and connections are check and a complete QC of all components are done. I don't know all the steps to the process, but as far as I know the lights are re-inspected 100% before a customer even gets them.

I will ask him for more details when I get a chance, or maybe see if he can just sign up here and answer them directly. Either way I appreciate you being interested and not making this a conflict or anything...I just am having very good luck with these panels, and wanted to correct some of the topics that were not entirely true :)
 

Chronikool

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I do not know the complete details because I am not the company (just a test grower for them),
So you are saying thingz they have told you to say? for your personal friend right...? ;)

but I know that different diodes are used (different wavelengths),
So they change some diodes around....? Picking your own diodes is nothing new...re apollo line. As a potential customer (or my original statement going off their website) It is another re branded panel...which by the way is true as you have just confirmed.

internal parts have been modified for modular construction,
Hehehe...i like wordz aswell...

case modifications have been made as well as layout modifications of the spread of the panels,
Using the same TYPE of diodes and spreading the light thinner....interesting...

as well as the whole blend of diodes used are different.
Repeating yourself a little here....

I would suggest writing to Igro for the details,
I have already being turned off....you are helping me...

the owner is a very nice guy and heavily involved in making the best lights possible with the technology that is available. (yeah it may sound marketing hype like but it is the truth).
Of course you are going to say that about a personal friend....

So with that logic...they are using Cree, phillips, bridgelux and other brand name diodes and drivers....if they arent then they would be lying... ;)

Matter of fact there is another model of these lights by AgroMax or something like that, same look, but they don't even feature the custom controllers. (same manufacture, but different parts/design/layout).
Not interested in them either...

As far as I know, and again I would write to the manufacturer to confirm this, but they go through a complete inspection once they arrive in the US, they are run for a certain amount of days to make sure everythings working properly, cases are opened, wire and solder and connections are check and a complete QC of all components are done. I don't know all the steps to the process, but as far as I know the lights are re-inspected 100% before a customer even gets them.
This should be standard practice really...

I will ask him for more details when I get a chance, or maybe see if he can just sign up here and answer them directly. Either way I appreciate you being interested and not making this a conflict or anything...I just am having very good luck with these panels, and wanted to correct some of the topics that were not entirely true :)
Yip...fair enough...i wish you all the growing prowess and good fortune with these panels.... :)
 

PSUAGRO.

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Please elaborate... on the specs and 'other different thingz'?

So they are the same diodes in a different arrangement?



So they are made by CTlight but are made differently...?



3 part inspection process....??? hmmmm soundz like 'LED grow panel hype'



Fair enough....i will wait for answerz....
Stop messing around chroni!;-)

Garbage in = garbage out, this will never change.

We've heard the same spiel since the Blackstar days, but but but it's our own design and "custom spectra" !!! Lol
 

grapeoptimo

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Personally, as a non-commercial grower, I could care less about customer service when it comes to corporations. If your product works, then I'll never need to talk to you and I'll let my vendor handle any headaches. Fuck, I've never gotten CREE to get back to me. Should I say they should be avoided Hy? And it's not like I communicate with these companies like I chat around here. They don't care about little end users. That's why I said before Hy, if you want to talk to them, make up some bullshit story about how you're gonna need 2 dozen of their lights. That will get their little dicks a-wigglin :).
Illumitex is just a pig greedy corporation like most from what I can tell. Fuck the discount, why don't they just sell the DS at a more reasonable price? If they can sell just 4 for below 2000.00 each, they could do a shit load better to begin with. I understand they have a right to charge what they can get. And that their overhead is a bit more than many LED companies since they don't source a lot of work, if any, to China. But it just seems that it's business as usual in the good ol kingdumb of Texas USA. Get as much as you can while ya can, right? And my business response is to keep my wallet shut tight and be a mercenary. No brand loyalties, no corporate fandom. I like their products, but they're as full of shit as everyone else.

But that's just my .02 cents. Anyone seen their 730nms for sale anywhere :) ??????
I bet you could get them from the So Cal distributor for the best price. I agree with you about corporations not communicating with end users its not necessary when products are the shit. However LED is in its early adopter stage (in the U.S.) imo and the good corporations see direct end user communication as a form of marketing.

Which 4 illumitex fixtures did he offer for under 2k???



Still think their solid lights, just in a large grow/commercial OP I would never deal with any type of " purple/f3" spectra IMO......I know growers say they can get accustomed to it or just turn the led fixtures off when in the room! I can't stand it personally and refuse to do unnecessary tasks(lazy) sooooo I just get the fuck out as fast as possible:P
NeoSOL DS F3 for under 2k each..
laziness is disgusting, its like a disease. get off yo ass.
 

Icemud420

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So you are saying thingz they have told you to say? for your personal friend right...? ;)



So they change some diodes around....? Picking your own diodes is nothing new...re apollo line. As a potential customer (or my original statement going off their website) It is another re branded panel...which by the way is true as you have just confirmed.



Hehehe...i like wordz aswell...



Using the same TYPE of diodes and spreading the light thinner....interesting...



Repeating yourself a little here....



I have already being turned off....you are helping me...



Of course you are going to say that about a personal friend....

So with that logic...they are using Cree, phillips, bridgelux and other brand name diodes and drivers....if they arent then they would be lying... ;)



Not interested in them either...



This should be standard practice really...



Yip...fair enough...i wish you all the growing prowess and good fortune with these panels.... :)
As I mentioned and you overlooked. I am a test grower of these lights.. Not a personal friend and have physically never met the owner. Yes I have spoken with the owner many times from being sponsored because I am good at what I do, but I have integrity to upkeep regarding my personal branding online as a grower, therefor I am only shedding light onto something that is being stated that is untrue. If you truely wanted these answers, feel free to contact the owner, I will also ask for the details, but don't knock me for not knowing the lights specs... I don't sell the lights, I don't make the lights, I just test the lights.. simple as that.


Rebranding means taking the exact same product, but slapping a different company name on it, not modifying the design, function, efficiencies or quality of internal parts. So you are incorrect. Rebranding is not the same as what intelligent gro is doing.

So if you were really interested, you would contact the company and get the truth instead of drilling me because I spoke up saying you are wrong. I said, I don't know the details, all I know is they are not the same lights as you would order from Alibaba or Ctlite...same look, different internals, different diode patterns and wavelenghs, different case sizes and probably a bunch of other minute details.

I didn't say spreading the light thinner....if you knew about the word penetration, then you would know that the more points of origin that a light source comes from the better the penetration because of the reduction of leaf shading, Intelligent gro modified the cases to spread out the points of origin of the LED diodes to give better penetration and better PPFD readings. The cases that Igro uses are different that CT light...same design, modified to Igros liking. Again, this is not rebranding.

And even look at it this way.... regardless if the panel was rebranded or not,(which they arent) our goal as growers is to grow good weed and use the best technologies to get the best out of our plants...

What other panels out there let you manipulate spectrums, dim your intensities, run whisper quiet, have integrated cob chips along with 3w leds and soon to come blended dual 3w chips which are new to the LED industry? and at a slightly cheaper price than the competition? this is what strikes me as unusual about your disinterest.

So for a cheaper price than most other LED manufacturers, with additional and beneficial features.... I am struck as to why a LED that grows very well you are not intersted, other than you have financial ties to a different manufacturer. If you truely were helping your growing community out, you would research these rants and comments and instead of negating a topic as invalid, you would seek the truth and share...
 

PSUAGRO.

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Lookz like you have it all sorted out....none of the answerz...but i am still wrong.... Enjoy your garden...
Lol........chroni, you must be new to the led grow scene?;-) didn't you know that dual "blended" emitters are the new thing?! How many"points of origin"do your top bin cree xml-2s have again? How about measuring ppfd instead of ppf from the leds?

Damn we are out of the loop friend:-P....
 

Icemud420

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Lookz like you have it all sorted out....none of the answerz...but i am still wrong.... Enjoy your garden...
When I get these answers, from the company I will gladly share because yes, us growers are skeptical people and we have been screwed over by all types of companies from nutrients to lights to you name it.. look, I am the same as you, I care for other growers and I am
Lol........chroni, you must be new to the led grow scene?;-) didn't you know that dual "blended" emitters are the new thing?! How many"points of origin"do your top bin cree xml-2s have again? How about measuring ppfd instead of ppf from the leds?

Damn we are out of the loop friend:-P....
Lol........chroni, you must be new to the led grow scene?;-) didn't you know that dual "blended" emitters are the new thing?! How many"points of origin"do your top bin cree xml-2s have again? How about measuring ppfd instead of ppf from the leds?

Damn we are out of the loop friend:-P....
actually you should be measuring YPF if you want more accurate relation to quantum yield and photosynthetic efficiency, buy you and your buddy probably already know that... but of course with your cree xml chips your probably getting great PPFD readings, because it is not weighing out individual light quantums per photosynthetic activity... dont be a dickhead man... His statement originally said that these lights are rebranded which is wrong.. so keep it at that...
 

Chronikool

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Lol........chroni, you must be new to the led grow scene?;-) didn't you know that dual "blended" emitters are the new thing?! How many"points of origin"do your top bin cree xml-2s have again? How about measuring ppfd instead of ppf from the leds?

Damn we are out of the loop friend:-P....
i actually still consider myself new to the LED grow scene...so much crap has been digested...it has aged me.... ;)

Hahaha....Maybe itz time for me to stop making my silly little illuminating con'crap'tionz... :)
 

PSUAGRO.

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Me sayz that you will never get you're answerzzzzzzzzzz.........bummer because the panel comes with controllerzzz

My statement still sayz this...i have never changed it.You have come up with your own definition on what rebranding is...sort of like rebranded it almost... :)

Looking forward to the answerz for sure....should be LED marketing at itz finest...
 

Bad Karma

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@Icemud420, You need to realize that this sub-forum is frequented by the LED gurus. We are a bunch of LED enthusiasts who are on top of everything LED growing related. Between the two handfuls of us on here, we can basically cover any company, part, or spectrum, with implicate knowledge. I understand what you're doing, and don't fault you at all, as most of us have done test grows for LED companies. I was one of the early test growers for Area 51, myself. We are a bunch of efficientcy nuts, and the "rebranded" LED's that you are putting before us, despite their cool controllers and whatnot, don't meet our high standards. So you're not going to turn any heads here, but I wish you the best of luck with your grow.
 

Icemud420

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@Icemud420, You need to realize that this sub-forum is frequented by the LED gurus. We are a bunch of LED enthusiasts who are on top of everything LED growing related. Between the two handfuls of us on here, we can basically cover any company, part, or spectrum, with implicate knowledge. I understand what you're doing, and don't fault you at all, as most of us have done test grows for LED companies. I was one of the early test growers for Area 51, myself. We are a bunch of efficientcy nuts, and the "rebranded" LED's that you are putting before us, despite their cool controllers and whatnot, don't meet our high standards. So you're not going to turn any heads here, but I wish you the best of luck with your grow.
I appreciate your response... can I ask what about them don't meet the "gurus" standards? That's great and all that I came to a place where other pro's are, but I don't understand why a pro would throw blanket statements out, without giving actual fact behind the statement? (not speaking in regards to you).

So what about these lights is not up to your supposed standards?
 

chazbolin

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So what about these lights is not up to your supposed standards?
Hiya Mud! That question is way too open ended good sir. Guru's will pick apart written technical specifications because it's out there for all to see. When you're a test grower for a company and you hype the product with statements like 'they use blended emitters' there are folks here like P and Chron who are going to call you out on it. You're a grower not an engineer. Ultimately your gardens will speak for themselves. If your results are less than stellar as a direct result of these panels not meeting the manufacturers claims I would expect you to be the one to call them out.

All you can really do for iGro (that name sounds vaguely familiar) is post up journals and describe what you can personally attest to with their panels. If there are links to technical specifications, put that link in the thread. It tells us that the company is supporting their products with an on-line presence that does not dodge technical issues such as emitted spectrums and intensities when those questions are raised. To be honest with you I would not want that information from you in post as it is second hand. I want it right from the manufacturer. So don't suggest we go find it or contact the manufacturer just put the link in the post. If they do not have detailed technical specifications to support your work that tells me that they are not really serious about building a light for growers.

Happy gardening!
 
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