Bad Karma
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If only I had the extra loot sitting around, I'd grab 6, and remodel my 8x4 with them.
New A-51 models rw-300 rw-500 and a 90w veg
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earthling420
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excuse me for forgetting, but dont you have the A51RW? im starting to see more talk about the all white and SDS I believe saying to supplement with other spectrums. I would check your grows but im on my phone with awful signal for awhile.
earthling420
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Unfortunately that's not always the case. I hope that's how it will be though. Some companies up the price when demand grows, which is understandable. (not referring to led specifically btw)
kmog33
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I think leds are more like teslas than ferraris and like tesla 100000 price drops as the tech was more wanted and available. A lot of the led tech is newer and still not accepted by the growing community as a whole, so prices are still high. I think the prices will change a lot at the point that the majority move from hid to led. I bet 1 in maybe 100 growers will even consider using led and even fewer will actually purchase. The numbers are growing but still not there. Remember how expensive digital ballasts were when.they first came out? An mh/hps setup costs about as much as these a51 leds. $250 digi ballast, $170 hood, $100 bulb, the ducting for like 20 bucks, puts you in the $500 range. Add tax and you could pay for an a51 xgs...just sayin
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Bad Karma
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I have an XGS and one of A51's older 3W lights.
captainmorgan
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Not as much as you think, I built some CXA3070 Z4's that draw a little more than a Area51 XGS 190 at about 2/3 the cost and are more efficient.
Chronikool
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Some of us do...
spazatak
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lol.... bonza ...Some of us do...
might get you to teach me mate......or build me light
Chronikool
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Sweet as...bring the components....i'll burn them out for you.... 
captainmorgan
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Any one know how much power is going to the XGS's LED's? It draws 195 at the wall and has 72-5 watt LED's. I'm guessing around 160 watts but would like the real number.
earthling420
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ah, thx man. those 3W still pullin good weight I assume
how it compare to your wonderful xgs?
Bad Karma
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The 3W'er and the XGS are actually right next to each other in my main flowering tent. Yes, the 3W'er is still putting out some good weight. The XGS is way brighter, but the 3W'er has more red in its spectrum, so the plants under each of those lights are pretty similar, so far. But it is only week 5, I'm sure the XGS will pull ahead, soon enough.ah, thx man. those 3W still pullin good weight I assume
earthling420
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sounds sweet! ill have to keep an eye on it
mine are in week 5 as well. I can't wait!
captainmorgan
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Jeff told me the web site has been giving him lots of problems and he's building a new one and all the documentation will be back on the new one in about a month ,he hopes. He's also having supply chain problems with the LED's he uses in the XGS and that's why it's out of stock all the time.
shnkrmn
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What does this mean for the future of white lights like the xgs190? It's odd that they come out with a popular light using a white spectrum and then their next products revert to r/w. I have an xgs and am thinking of adding another one, but this move at a51 sort of rattles my confidence that is the right thing to do. Thoughts, anyone?
spazatak
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the XGS is an "all round light" (jeffs words)... it will do both fine veg and flower...
and as far as grows that have been done there is more evidence of the performance of the XGS than the newer ones...
Not saying the newer ones are better or worse... they just havent been out for long and people are in the process of using them..
I personally would go the RW... but have a look at what people have done with the XGS... your confidence shouldnt be altered