I'm referring, more specifically, to persons making fun of someone with ass burgers.
Elliot Rodger's had Aspergers Syndrome. Should we not allow people with Aspergers to own guns?
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MidwesternGro
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Lacking empathy is a part of the diagnostic criterion. I think you consider yourself a self-diagnosed aspie (LOL!) because you watched Rain Man once and thought it was cool.
cat of curiosity
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that's not funny. are you proud of yourself?
Making fun of the name of the disease is no where near as bad as making fun of someone with the disease.
I wish someone else would have discovered it.
cat of curiosity
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no, i'm not self diagnosed. read and comprehend. rain man WAS a great movie, but aspies and people with autism are not lacking in empathy. that is better described as sociopath.
Canna Sylvan
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There are people lacking empathy on this thread, and it ain't those with Aspergers.
cat of curiosity
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it's still not nice, dude.
watch the movie, ''mary and max''.
i have several autistic family members. you're striking a chord, and it's not pretty.
cat of curiosity
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http://www.alluc.to/movies/watch-mary-and-max-2009-online/156379.html
in case you don't have the incentive...
and it's claymation, pretty big deal considering it's a newer film.
in case you don't have the incentive...
and it's claymation, pretty big deal considering it's a newer film.
UncleBuck
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Diagnostic Criteria for 299.80 Asperger's Disorder
[The following is from Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders: DSM IV]
(I) Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(A) marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(B) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(C) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people, (e.g.. by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
(D) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
- (II) Restricted repetitive & stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(A) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(B) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(C) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
(D) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
(III) The disturbance causes clinically significant impairments in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
(IV) There is no clinically significant general delay in language (E.G. single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years)
(V) There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction) and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
(VI) Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia."
UncleBuck
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and the more updated, but broadened DSM-V diagnosis.
http://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism/diagnosis/dsm-5-diagnostic-criteria
http://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism/diagnosis/dsm-5-diagnostic-criteria
cat of curiosity
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don't cut it. extremes exist, but not all exhibit all symptoms, and to say anyone one with aspergers is incapable of empathy is like saying all black people are criminals, all jews are money hoarders, and all americans are immoral.Diagnostic Criteria for 299.80 Asperger's Disorder
[The following is from Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders: DSM IV]
(I) Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(A) marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(B) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(C) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people, (e.g.. by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
(D) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
- (II) Restricted repetitive & stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(A) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(B) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(C) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
(D) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
(III) The disturbance causes clinically significant impairments in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
(IV) There is no clinically significant general delay in language (E.G. single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years)
(V) There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction) and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
(VI) Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia."
Canna Sylvan
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Buck,
You should feel ashamed of yourself. "Lack of empathy," means you don't feel sympathy for others. It's you don't know really how they feel unless you've felt the same. It's pretty much how all people do things, except people with Aspergers have a harder time with knowing subtle hints people give off. Not that we can't tell when someone is mad, happy, etc. It's little things, like "this is sure heavy," we might say, "yeah it is." But once we get it, we don't forget. That bullshit is also why it was taken off the DSM. Aspergers still exists, but psychologists are just stupid.
You should feel ashamed of yourself. "Lack of empathy," means you don't feel sympathy for others. It's you don't know really how they feel unless you've felt the same. It's pretty much how all people do things, except people with Aspergers have a harder time with knowing subtle hints people give off. Not that we can't tell when someone is mad, happy, etc. It's little things, like "this is sure heavy," we might say, "yeah it is." But once we get it, we don't forget. That bullshit is also why it was taken off the DSM. Aspergers still exists, but psychologists are just stupid.
cat of curiosity
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and please don't troll me on this one. autismspeaks is something i'm quite familiar with. a girl who's bunny is her world is not without empathy. do some more digging, and don't go the opposite just to get a rise, please.
Canna Sylvan
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Buck,
You should feel ashamed of yourself. "Lack of empathy," means you don't feel sympathy for others. It's you don't know really how they feel unless you've felt the same. It's pretty much how all people do things, except people with Aspergers have a harder time with knowing subtle hints people give off. Not that we can't tell when someone is mad, happy, etc. It's little things, like "this is sure heavy," we might say, "yeah it is," and not help because we're preoccupied and don't understand. But once we get it, we don't forget. That bullshit is also why it was taken off the DSM. Aspergers still exists, but psychologists are just stupid.
You should feel ashamed of yourself. "Lack of empathy," means you don't feel sympathy for others. It's you don't know really how they feel unless you've felt the same. It's pretty much how all people do things, except people with Aspergers have a harder time with knowing subtle hints people give off. Not that we can't tell when someone is mad, happy, etc. It's little things, like "this is sure heavy," we might say, "yeah it is," and not help because we're preoccupied and don't understand. But once we get it, we don't forget. That bullshit is also why it was taken off the DSM. Aspergers still exists, but psychologists are just stupid.
UncleBuck
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then they get a different diagnosis.
difficulty or inability to empathize with others is part of the diagnosis for ass burger disease.
UncleBuck
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i wouldn't troll you on this one. i'm here for the rabbit.
Canna Sylvan
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No it's not. Now go fuck off.
cat of curiosity
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Empathy is the capacity to recognize emotions that are being experienced by another sentient or fictional being.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy
SYMPATHY
BIG difference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy
SYMPATHY
- feelings of pity and sorrow for someone else's misfortune.
"they had great sympathy for the flood victims"
synonyms:compassion, caring, concern, solicitude, empathy;More
commiseration, pity, condolence, comfort, solace, support, encouragement;
consideration, kindness
"he shows sympathy for the poor"
antonyms:indifference- the formal expression of pity or sorrow for someone else's misfortune; condolences.
plural noun: sympathies; plural noun: one's sympathies
"all Tony's friends joined in sending their sympathies to his widow Jean"
- the formal expression of pity or sorrow for someone else's misfortune; condolences.
- 2.
understanding between people; common feeling.
"the special sympathy between the two boys was obvious to all"
synonyms:rapport, fellow feeling, affinity, empathy, harmony, accord, compatibility;More
fellowship, camaraderie
"sympathy with a fellow journalist"
antonyms:hostility- support in the form of shared feelings or opinions.
plural noun: sympathies
"his sympathies lay with his constituents"
synonyms:agreement, favor, approval, approbation, support, encouragement, partiality;More
association, alignment, affiliation
"their sympathy with the rebels"
antonyms:disapproval - agreement with or approval of an opinion or aim; a favorable attitude.
"I have some sympathy for this view" - relating harmoniously to something else; in keeping.
noun: in sympathy; plural noun: in sympathies
"repairs had to be in sympathy with the original structure" - the state or fact of responding in a way similar or corresponding to an action elsewhere.
"the magnetic field oscillates in sympathy"
- support in the form of shared feelings or opinions.
BIG difference.
londonfog
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why are you so mean and uncaring.
cat of curiosity
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you should also watch mary and max, if you haven't seen it. empathy and sympathy are often switched and misused.
a better way of stating it is a confusion or lack of understanding of others due to one's own isolation. but incapable, they are not (in many if not most cases). if asked if something is right or wrong, they have a pretty good grasp and understanding.