This about the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard about HPS lamps....LOL CFL's can work well, but you will NEVER get the same yeild as using a an HPS at the same wattage. I know for a fact because I have used them both.
Advantage V. disadvantage CFL's
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Littlebigpap
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where are the periods man :d?
ilyaas123
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DankkAbuser
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I agree cfls work
but thers nothing like hps or mh
ive grown plants side to side in diffrent grow rooms one with cfls other with hps/mh
and OFCOURSE hps came on top
i yeilded 3times the amount with hps than with cfl
cfls are good for veg
but to bloom u wont get much
Not to bag on cfls i still use cfl
But only to veg
just my 2cents
but thers nothing like hps or mh
ive grown plants side to side in diffrent grow rooms one with cfls other with hps/mh
and OFCOURSE hps came on top
i yeilded 3times the amount with hps than with cfl
cfls are good for veg
but to bloom u wont get much
Not to bag on cfls i still use cfl
But only to veg
just my 2cents
noham
Active Member
Would you please look at my thread and share your thoughts?
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-fluorescent-lighting/780049-ware-fuorescent-tubes-underperform-if.html
It's about fluorescent tubes' performance drop at less-than-optimal temp ranges. (Which seem to be quite a narrow range)
.... -Which! You may have not even noticed, because you have been using them at almost same temperatures from the beginning.
Thank you!
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-fluorescent-lighting/780049-ware-fuorescent-tubes-underperform-if.html
It's about fluorescent tubes' performance drop at less-than-optimal temp ranges. (Which seem to be quite a narrow range)
.... -Which! You may have not even noticed, because you have been using them at almost same temperatures from the beginning.
Thank you!
NorthofEngland
Well-Known Member
It's either a mistake
Or bullshit.
No one gets those yields from CFL's
(or why would ANYONE step up to HID'S???)
Mistake
or
Bullshit
???????
noham
Active Member
I bet he forgot to take the plant out of the pot. Made more sense...
This is the first time I grow, and I was quite afraid of getting HID lamps because of heat issues (only read, never tested one).
So now I have 190w of cfl for vegging raising temps to 80-85F while the ambient temperature is 70F.
I now have the courage (place's considered small) to buy a HPS, even more so because it's easier to keep cool than several seperate bulbs.
Hanky92
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Try a full stop or comma now and again, very hard too read.
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northeastbreedersgroup
Active Member
I second that
northeastbreedersgroup
Active Member
I def agree lmao
jaredbroders
New Member
i have a grow at the min, im new to this forum and also new to growing. im in the uk and have 4 plants. there all sprouted and look healthy except the stems are a little long. i am currently using 2 CFL lights (spiral) 2700 k warm white and im using 2 of these. i am thinking of getting another 2 so each plant as there own light. i have been told and read online that you can do a full grow with just these CFL lights. is that right? if i get another 2 would they be ok on that light untill right to the end? would appreciate everyone input on it. 
thanks guys
oh and the i have 3 speed haze fem seeds that are now small stem plants and 1 pineapple gum seed which is the longest and is the fastest. germinated first the pineapple one
i am also using mylar silver and white reflective sheets all around my grow room so there getting light from that too. plus i also have a small fan blowing constantly. does it sound like im doing anything wrong so far? done loads of reading/research online and thats why im growing the way i am and so far its working
thanks guysoh and the i have 3 speed haze fem seeds that are now small stem plants and 1 pineapple gum seed which is the longest and is the fastest. germinated first the pineapple one
i am also using mylar silver and white reflective sheets all around my grow room so there getting light from that too. plus i also have a small fan blowing constantly. does it sound like im doing anything wrong so far? done loads of reading/research online and thats why im growing the way i am
and so far its workingWell for all its worth, I veg with CFL and finish with HPS. The growth rate is definitely slower with CFL.Plus I top the plant and it slows down growing also.I have the time to wait for my veg to complete before putting it under 400 watts hps. Also keeps the better half happy with a lower electric bill during extended veg times I create. That way I'm guaranteed to achieve my max weight
the more wattage you can afford the better.i have a grow at the min, im new to this forum and also new to growing. im in the uk and have 4 plants. there all sprouted and look healthy except the stems are a little long. i am currently using 2 CFL lights (spiral) 2700 k warm white and im using 2 of these. i am thinking of getting another 2 so each plant as there own light. i have been told and read online that you can do a full grow with just these CFL lights. is that right? if i get another 2 would they be ok on that light untill right to the end? would appreciate everyone input on it.
oh and the i have 3 speed haze fem seeds that are now small stem plants and 1 pineapple gum seed which is the longest and is the fastest. germinated first the pineapple one
i am also using mylar silver and white reflective sheets all around my grow room so there getting light from that too. plus i also have a small fan blowing constantly. does it sound like im doing anything wrong so far? done loads of reading/research online and thats why im growing the way i am
420Hazza
Active Member
its discussable. of course there's nothing better than veg with HID and flow with HPS but if you (in my case) have lack of space there might be a issue with overheating. HPS are way better because they produce denser photon beams which means that the light will penetrate deeper into the buds, creating denser & compact buds (higher yield) . BUT 11band LED's, have incredible yield while these produce 50% less heat than HPS of =W its like CFL-->LED--> HPS best, while with CFL's you need to focus on distributing even light to all areas of the bud sites, this can be achieved with LTS or SCROG I don't support trimming unless it covers bud sited but with LTS or SCROG you don't have to worry about this, while you just maintain light about inch to the top of the plant which most of you already know. ill be using 200W 65k and 2x 25w 65k for vegg and 200w 27K and 2x 25w 65k for flow per plant (2 plant grow opp) check my set up
https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-stealth-grow-set-up.830777/
still working on the insulation and overall set up before I start the growth
"Trimming" I think its best to start trimming to the end of flowering like 2weeks before chop down, as trimming focus on diverting energy that goes to the leafs, to the top (main colla). I have graduated from AS/A2 biology so no one can teach me about GMO or plant cycles etc...... fan leafs are most important in lifecycle of the plant these are vital plant organs for creating energy. if you trim too many leafs? --> less energy from the light will get absorbed= less energy produced---> lower yields + stubborn growth. But>> BIG>> but>> plants need all the energy to grow strong while at the end of flowering they don't need that much energy as the plant uses stored energy to transform the bud sites to actual buds, while fan leaves still keep on sucking some of the plants energy to grow, expand roots, thicken the stem,,,,,, bla bla bla,,,,,,, to the end you don't need more energy to be created by the plant as much as you need the energy to be redirected to the buds via trimming. I hope you get my point as I tried to be a straight forward as possible
Also try Half trim so you end up with fan leafs that aren't that big but still can create energy for the plant
LEARN
C6H12O6
Surface Area
so while you think big fan leafs might be useless> they will cover 2-3x the S.A as small fan leaf which means there is more area for the photosynthesis to happen >> 2-3x the output as from small leafs
https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-stealth-grow-set-up.830777/
still working on the insulation and overall set up before I start the growth
"Trimming" I think its best to start trimming to the end of flowering like 2weeks before chop down, as trimming focus on diverting energy that goes to the leafs, to the top (main colla). I have graduated from AS/A2 biology so no one can teach me about GMO or plant cycles etc...... fan leafs are most important in lifecycle of the plant these are vital plant organs for creating energy. if you trim too many leafs? --> less energy from the light will get absorbed= less energy produced---> lower yields + stubborn growth. But>> BIG>> but>> plants need all the energy to grow strong while at the end of flowering they don't need that much energy as the plant uses stored energy to transform the bud sites to actual buds, while fan leaves still keep on sucking some of the plants energy to grow, expand roots, thicken the stem,,,,,, bla bla bla,,,,,,, to the end you don't need more energy to be created by the plant as much as you need the energy to be redirected to the buds via trimming. I hope you get my point as I tried to be a straight forward as possible
Also try Half trim so you end up with fan leafs that aren't that big but still can create energy for the plant
LEARN
C6H12O6
Surface Area
so while you think big fan leafs might be useless> they will cover 2-3x the S.A as small fan leaf which means there is more area for the photosynthesis to happen >> 2-3x the output as from small leafs
KY~GROW1
Well-Known Member
I trim out a lot of my fan leaves, weekly actually, bcuz I gotta shit ton of under growth, im a first time grower but ive read that trimming fan leaves is a "good" thing bcuz ur lower budsites need light to get bigger... is this true? mine seems to THRIVE when I do it ~ check it out 18 days into flower...its discussable. of course there's nothing better than veg with HID and flow with HPS but if you (in my case) have lack of space there might be a issue with overheating. HPS are way better because they produce denser photon beams which means that the light will penetrate deeper into the buds, creating denser & compact buds (higher yield) . BUT 11band LED's, have incredible yield while these produce 50% less heat than HPS of =W its like CFL-->LED--> HPS best, while with CFL's you need to focus on distributing even light to all areas of the bud sites, this can be achieved with LTS or SCROG I don't support trimming unless it covers bud sited but with LTS or SCROG you don't have to worry about this, while you just maintain light about inch to the top of the plant which most of you already know. ill be using 200W 65k and 2x 25w 65k for vegg and 200w 27K and 2x 25w 65k for flow per plant (2 plant grow opp) check my set up
https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-stealth-grow-set-up.830777/
still working on the insulation and overall set up before I start the growth
"Trimming" I think its best to start trimming to the end of flowering like 2weeks before chop down, as trimming focus on diverting energy that goes to the leafs, to the top (main colla). I have graduated from AS/A2 biology so no one can teach me about GMO or plant cycles etc...... fan leafs are most important in lifecycle of the plant these are vital plant organs for creating energy. if you trim too many leafs? --> less energy from the light will get absorbed= less energy produced---> lower yields + stubborn growth. But>> BIG>> but>> plants need all the energy to grow strong while at the end of flowering they don't need that much energy as the plant uses stored energy to transform the bud sites to actual buds, while fan leaves still keep on sucking some of the plants energy to grow, expand roots, thicken the stem,,,,,, bla bla bla,,,,,,, to the end you don't need more energy to be created by the plant as much as you need the energy to be redirected to the buds via trimming. I hope you get my point as I tried to be a straight forward as possible
Also try Half trim so you end up with fan leafs that aren't that big but still can create energy for the plant
LEARN
C6H12O6
Surface Area
so while you think big fan leafs might be useless> they will cover 2-3x the S.A as small fan leaf which means there is more area for the photosynthesis to happen >> 2-3x the output as from small leafs
KY~GROW1
Well-Known Member
I guess that is tru, more surface area=more energy produced during photosynthesis, but I also know that with other plants, lower growth blocked out from the "sun" doesn't tend to thrive like the tops in full sun... guess its potato/pototo lol