Scotch's Deep Water LED's, Multi Strain Space Adventure! (Ie. Thought consolidation)
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Greengenes707
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Wow buddy. Crazy. But glad you're safe and not the worst thing that could have happened considering they can be ridiculous.
Stay checking in here and let us know when your back and running whenever that may be. I see you liking things here and there. Miss you around these parts.
Stay checking in here and let us know when your back and running whenever that may be. I see you liking things here and there. Miss you around these parts.
Scotch089
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Thank you bruv. Yea, glad I got away easier than others have.
Could have lost my license and that would have really fucked my day up with the little one.
Hopefully I'll be back up and going in t-minus- 349 days, yes, I am counting. As long as the lady is square with it, and I think she knows how much I miss it.
It is an entire lifestyle 360, after a decade of research, work, effort, and time.. Holy shit. I'm 25 so i still have plenty of time in that sense, but with the runt runnin around I don't want him getting the wrong idea 5-10 years from now about things, hopefully the outdoor garden, future laws, and my perspective on the Plant as a whole will keep my window open come time.
Btw, congratufuckinlations on the pull brother! Knew it was gonna be killer, sure you can't wait till you get to get back to those LED temps.
Could have lost my license and that would have really fucked my day up with the little one.
Hopefully I'll be back up and going in t-minus- 349 days, yes, I am counting. As long as the lady is square with it, and I think she knows how much I miss it.
It is an entire lifestyle 360, after a decade of research, work, effort, and time.. Holy shit. I'm 25 so i still have plenty of time in that sense, but with the runt runnin around I don't want him getting the wrong idea 5-10 years from now about things, hopefully the outdoor garden, future laws, and my perspective on the Plant as a whole will keep my window open come time.
Btw, congratufuckinlations on the pull brother! Knew it was gonna be killer, sure you can't wait till you get to get back to those LED temps.
hyroot
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shit only 25... You got plenty of time. I was 22 when I started my first indoor grow room. I was 17 when I grew my first plants outdoor. I'm 35 now. Most of the organic heads on here are in their 40's - mid 50's. When I was 25 I shut down my own grow for a couple years because of the law. Just helped other peoples grows and then when I got into the right place I started up again.
to be in my early 20's again. Those were probably the funnest times of my life. I had so much money back then from growing, working, blowing glass and selling glass pipes and bongs. Traveled alot. Went to alot of concerts and festivals. Ate out at all the baller restaurants every day. Golfed pelican hill and pebble beach, etc... My chick back then cost me $50-$100 a day. My theme song was money ain't a thing. Now its still fly. (big tymers) lol. Now I just sit home everyday and have enough to eat and pay the bills and pay for my garden.....
to be in my early 20's again. Those were probably the funnest times of my life. I had so much money back then from growing, working, blowing glass and selling glass pipes and bongs. Traveled alot. Went to alot of concerts and festivals. Ate out at all the baller restaurants every day. Golfed pelican hill and pebble beach, etc... My chick back then cost me $50-$100 a day. My theme song was money ain't a thing. Now its still fly. (big tymers) lol. Now I just sit home everyday and have enough to eat and pay the bills and pay for my garden.....
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foreverflyhi
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349 days no way! Sorry to hear brotha, that garden will help u tho
Scotch089
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/first-outdoor-garden-los-things-to-look-out-for.831858/#post-10566441
I was expecting to just have to suds em up a bit but I'd appreciate any input I can get.
On another note I tore open my SGS the other day, put it back together today and realize "ah shit.." The drivers are swapped, I was shutting off one bay of the XPGs and the reds looks like the were being driven heavier, noticeably heavier in the red department under the panel. And I like it! So, calling my brother SUPRA, what is the most efficient current to drive XPEs at? When I had spoken to E about the new RW's before release he was talking about driving them heavier instead of upping the actual amount of diodes, I think 700ma instead of 500? Dont hold me to it. BUT, I would like to swap my red driver out and run them harder, keep my white draw where it's at an shoot for somewhere +-170w from the 156w.
O, and I may do a side by side TECHNICAL breakdown of the AT vs the SGS for those who care, PUFF.
Take care everyone and thank you for the words! Hyroot- sounds like you've been living the dream my friend!
I was expecting to just have to suds em up a bit but I'd appreciate any input I can get.
On another note I tore open my SGS the other day, put it back together today and realize "ah shit.." The drivers are swapped, I was shutting off one bay of the XPGs and the reds looks like the were being driven heavier, noticeably heavier in the red department under the panel. And I like it! So, calling my brother SUPRA, what is the most efficient current to drive XPEs at? When I had spoken to E about the new RW's before release he was talking about driving them heavier instead of upping the actual amount of diodes, I think 700ma instead of 500? Dont hold me to it. BUT, I would like to swap my red driver out and run them harder, keep my white draw where it's at an shoot for somewhere +-170w from the 156w.
O, and I may do a side by side TECHNICAL breakdown of the AT vs the SGS for those who care, PUFF.
Take care everyone and thank you for the words! Hyroot- sounds like you've been living the dream my friend!
puffenuff
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I'd be interested in modding my sgs as well. Post some pics of the light mods if/when you get that done, I might do the same.
And yes, a breakdown vs. would be awesome. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate that.
Glad you are going OK brother. Looks like you're keeping busy with the outdoor garden. All I have outside at the moment are grapes. First time growing them, started last summer in a pot and just now getting some little bunches on the vines.
And yes, a breakdown vs. would be awesome. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate that.
Glad you are going OK brother. Looks like you're keeping busy with the outdoor garden. All I have outside at the moment are grapes. First time growing them, started last summer in a pot and just now getting some little bunches on the vines.
Greengenes707
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I like the moding idea. I will be using a at120 for parts for my DIY.
For anything that actually eats leave...cucuber beatles, grasshoppers, caterpillars...SPINOSAD is the key. OMRI listed and works like a charm for a bunch of pest.
Monterey gardens is the brand I use, but anything with spinosad should get the job done. Then just be a little preventative like anything else.
Spinosad and Serenade(BT) are an outdoor gardeners best friends imo.
For anything that actually eats leave...cucuber beatles, grasshoppers, caterpillars...SPINOSAD is the key. OMRI listed and works like a charm for a bunch of pest.
Monterey gardens is the brand I use, but anything with spinosad should get the job done. Then just be a little preventative like anything else.
Spinosad and Serenade(BT) are an outdoor gardeners best friends imo.
Scotch089
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Thanks guys, I got home to a friennnnnndly email regarding my comment about driving the XPEs and I want to clear the air (eyeroll), he had said someone emailed them worried/wondering why they drive their emitters so heavy. Good god.... sensitive susies out there I swear.
"We have NEVER said we were going to drive our red LEDs harder instead of
> upping the diode count.
>
> The SGS has 24 red LEDs, the rw has 36 and they ARE being driven softer
> than they were in the sgs. LED count is 100% visible in the website pics
> of each lamp.
>
> And you should not swap the drivers, the voltage will not line up, and
> you'd be over driving the reds by an extra 125mA. There's a reason each
> string of LEDs has the driver it does, if it was better the other way,
> we would have done it like that."
SO. I knew I had heard it from the birds mouth at some point or another, and decided to do some digging....
"The 750mA would be optional for people upgrading their 2013 Cree lamps. Right now the Cree XPE1 uses 550mA, their max is 700mA. The new Cree XPE2 can handle 1000mA, and will be giving them 750mA as standard for all 2014 Cree lamps. It's up to the owners of the 2013's if they want 750's, or keep the 550's, which are totally compatible with the XPE2's. The 750's are good for an extra 20w when used with the XPE2's.
Both the XPE2 and XTE are binned at 85c, with identical specs as the XPG1 and XPE1 binned at 25c. If you operate the XPE2 and XTE at 25c, they are much more efficient. My new lamps run at pretty close to 25c."
This is where the confusion arose, keep in mind this was back in early August, still in concept mode, Im assuming, since he mentions the XPE2s. Again, SORRY for hte confusion. He was implying he was going to offer the XPE2s as upgrade parts and driving THEM harder. Not the original XPE1s.
also, he suggested I dont fuck with the drivers, says if it was better he would have done it.... erhem. So.
I thought it'd be worth it, if I personally wanted more red in my spectrum to drive it closer to 650mA, but he did bring a point to the flex in voltage, theres always a range, not a set point for the string, and frankly, I don't know enough about that to guarantee i wouldnt fuck something up- I thought it was just making sure you had a driver that could handle the MAXIMUM voltage of the string and making sure the minimum voltage of the driver was met by the emitters.
Spinosad you say eh G?! gonna have to check that out my friend, hope all is well over there homie! You salvaging those monster heatsinks for your projects? I could see you using the cases too, COB per square? actually thinking about bidding on one of those AT120s on ebay without losing an arm. One RB and one all white...
Puff, Ill still get you that breakdown
"We have NEVER said we were going to drive our red LEDs harder instead of
> upping the diode count.
>
> The SGS has 24 red LEDs, the rw has 36 and they ARE being driven softer
> than they were in the sgs. LED count is 100% visible in the website pics
> of each lamp.
>
> And you should not swap the drivers, the voltage will not line up, and
> you'd be over driving the reds by an extra 125mA. There's a reason each
> string of LEDs has the driver it does, if it was better the other way,
> we would have done it like that."
SO. I knew I had heard it from the birds mouth at some point or another, and decided to do some digging....
"The 750mA would be optional for people upgrading their 2013 Cree lamps. Right now the Cree XPE1 uses 550mA, their max is 700mA. The new Cree XPE2 can handle 1000mA, and will be giving them 750mA as standard for all 2014 Cree lamps. It's up to the owners of the 2013's if they want 750's, or keep the 550's, which are totally compatible with the XPE2's. The 750's are good for an extra 20w when used with the XPE2's.
Both the XPE2 and XTE are binned at 85c, with identical specs as the XPG1 and XPE1 binned at 25c. If you operate the XPE2 and XTE at 25c, they are much more efficient. My new lamps run at pretty close to 25c."
This is where the confusion arose, keep in mind this was back in early August, still in concept mode, Im assuming, since he mentions the XPE2s. Again, SORRY for hte confusion. He was implying he was going to offer the XPE2s as upgrade parts and driving THEM harder. Not the original XPE1s.
also, he suggested I dont fuck with the drivers, says if it was better he would have done it.... erhem. So.
I thought it'd be worth it, if I personally wanted more red in my spectrum to drive it closer to 650mA, but he did bring a point to the flex in voltage, theres always a range, not a set point for the string, and frankly, I don't know enough about that to guarantee i wouldnt fuck something up- I thought it was just making sure you had a driver that could handle the MAXIMUM voltage of the string and making sure the minimum voltage of the driver was met by the emitters.
Spinosad you say eh G?! gonna have to check that out my friend, hope all is well over there homie! You salvaging those monster heatsinks for your projects? I could see you using the cases too, COB per square? actually thinking about bidding on one of those AT120s on ebay without losing an arm. One RB and one all white...
Puff, Ill still get you that breakdown
Greengenes707
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Exactly... heat sink for sure, and maybe the housing depending on my driver size/situation. That sink is a piece or art as far a metal goes imo. I was thinking 1 cob per lens(so 6)...but now am set on just 4 at 50w each for the opening project.
I never search ebay...there are quite a few lights on there...all brands.
If you call apache they have the at120 new for $535 of whats left of them. So depends on what your bid is.
I never search ebay...there are quite a few lights on there...all brands.
If you call apache they have the at120 new for $535 of whats left of them. So depends on what your bid is.
hyroot
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spinosad never worked for me. I've been battling white flies off and on. Its getting worse. I even tried your recipe foliar. No luck. I ordered encarsia Formosa parasites and predatory mites (tri pack) from http://gardeningzone.com/
Chronikool
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Good to have you back around again bruv....Put all your effortz into your family and that vege garden....
Wacky idea alert: Enclosure for your Apache and Area 51 over top of your fruit and vege garden....take the power back!
Wacky idea alert: Enclosure for your Apache and Area 51 over top of your fruit and vege garden....take the power back!
Scotch089
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So! What do you know?! Not off early but thought I'd update the status in ol Narnia. Just mixed up 12cu.ft. of more LOS since I used my original batch on my outdoor veggies. Went pretty damn hot on the amendments but I have plenty of time to let it cook.
3cu ft peat
3cu ft castings
2 cu ft Ancient Forest
4 cu ft asbestos free Vermiculite
With
3 cups vegan mix
2 cups kelp
2 cups alfalfa
1 cup oyster shells
1 cup bone meal (had it might as well)
1 cup greensand
Still have to go pick up the vermiculite and mix it and mix in some Nitrozyme and The rest of my Protekt, some glacial dust and maybe ZHO powder.
I also just picked up my last order of seeds my new stock is 100+ seeds. Whew.
New additions:
x4 Kosher Kush
x15 Skylotus
x11 Sunshine Daydream
x9 Goji OG
On top of the sour Kush, dreambeaver, pennywise, July, an ace of spades I have. And a shit ton of freebies. Some worth running.
First one to go down will be the SSDD, and I'll be crossing to get some more seeds and storing pollen. I plan on crossing my keepers and stabilizing them to 94% eventually.
Just waiting on my 670 Crees and my xml2s for the DIY and then it's set and wait. Hope everyone is doing well!
3cu ft peat
3cu ft castings
2 cu ft Ancient Forest
4 cu ft asbestos free Vermiculite
With
3 cups vegan mix
2 cups kelp
2 cups alfalfa
1 cup oyster shells
1 cup bone meal (had it might as well)
1 cup greensand
Still have to go pick up the vermiculite and mix it and mix in some Nitrozyme and The rest of my Protekt, some glacial dust and maybe ZHO powder.
I also just picked up my last order of seeds my new stock is 100+ seeds. Whew.
New additions:
x4 Kosher Kush
x15 Skylotus
x11 Sunshine Daydream
x9 Goji OG
On top of the sour Kush, dreambeaver, pennywise, July, an ace of spades I have. And a shit ton of freebies. Some worth running.
First one to go down will be the SSDD, and I'll be crossing to get some more seeds and storing pollen. I plan on crossing my keepers and stabilizing them to 94% eventually.
Just waiting on my 670 Crees and my xml2s for the DIY and then it's set and wait. Hope everyone is doing well!