A Cruise Missile Slammed Into the Pentagon on 911

[Doer]

No, engineers DO NOT design skyscrapers to fall into their own footprint, they design the building to never fall no matter what.

This building as a structural tube was designed, not to fall, but as such, so that it did fall the way it did,

bin Laden was seen chuckling about the design. The design is why he could bring it down.

 

[NoDrama]

bin Laden was seen chuckling about the design.

Really? Bin Ladin is a structural engineer well versed in how to make a plane destroy a building?

Whats funny is that the buildings were designed to take multiple hits from big passenger jets. But whatever.

Why change subject to twin towers now? Building 7 too hard to defend the BS lies? Not saying you know they are lies and are towing the status quo line, but duped people do that on their own accord because the alternative is too horrifying to think of.

 

[Doer]

Are you just stupid here? You don't know that he was trained as a structural engineer in his family's business of large, industrial construction? You don't know he targeted those building because he knew he could kill them, that he could destroy the entire thing?

He knew to direct the planes to leave that big structure on top, intact to crush the rest of the building, I have seen the video in Pastun, that my Pastun friend told me the translation. They were laughing at how easy it was. And Moszum was laughing about how hard it was to explain it to the others. But, they did get it.

Sit DOWN.

 

[Doer]

So, are you retread enough, as to think we brought down the Towers just to get Building 7?

The Towers got Building 7, but barely. And this was to cover up some lie you think, that is not proven? We destroy the heart of our finance district, to barely, and luckily, destroy building 7?

Go back to the shallow end. It is too deep out here for you.

There are much easier ways to cover up, than that., This is just fear.

We were attacked and you can be dead in a ditch tomorrow, in front of you local shopping mall.

That is the real you hide from, by saying hatebushdidit.

 

[NoDrama]

The report said primarily. I said primarily. You said it was only the fire. That is not what the report said.

Here are the facts. If the building was not damaged in structure, the fire would not have collapsed it. (nor would it have been on fire)

And if there was no fire, just damage, the damage was not enough to cause a collapse.

Do you follow that? It took both, for one to be the primary.

The report specifically rules out impact damage, did you even attempt to read it?

It was the fire, not the impact damage. Fires all of a sudden got so hot that the entire building and every floor in it collapsed at a single instant, the fire on floor 25 was so hot that floor #1 collapsed first.

Sure.

 

[NoDrama]

Are you just stupid here? You don't know that he was trained as a structural engineer in his family's business of large, industrial construction? You don't know he targeted those building because he knew he could kill them, that he could destroy the entire thing?

He knew to direct the planes to leave that big structure on top, intact to crush the rest of the building, I have seen the video in Pastun, that my Pastun friend told me the translation. They were laughing at how easy it was. And Moszum was laughing about how hard it was to explain it to the others. But, they did get it.

Sit DOWN.

Bin Laden is officially on record saying he had nothing to do with it. If he HAD done it, he would have taken credit for damaging the great evil of the west and would have been considered a hero. Alas no one in the middle east thinks Bin Laden did it because he didn't take credit and neither did the Taliban, in fact NO ONE HAS EVER TAKEN CREDIT!!

 

[NoDrama]

So, are you retread enough, as to think we brought down the Towers just to get Building 7?

The Towers got Building 7, but barely. And this was to cover up some lie you think, that is not proven? We destroy the heart of our finance district, to barely, and luckily, destroy building 7?

Go back to the shallow end. It is too deep out here for you.

There are much easier ways to cover up, than that., This is just fear.

We were attacked and you can be dead in a ditch tomorrow, in front of you local shopping mall.

That is the real you hide from, by saying hatebushdidit.

Strawmanning extremely hard here aren't you? I have never made any of the claims you attribute to me, why do you need to be so dishonest in this discussion?

Where did i say it was to cover up a lie? Nowhere.
Where did I say we brought down the towers to get #7? Nowhere.
Where did I say Bush did it? Nowhere

Any more fantastical claims?

 

[Doer]

You have said all that.

It is in the Deniers Creed.

And you are boring,

 

[NoDrama]

You have said all that.

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Now you have to resort to outright lies too?

I haven't ever said any of those things in any thread on any forum that has ever existed.

But I will note that you did call Obama a N***er on several occasions and that you believe that small boys should be loved in a physical way by yourself.

I can play this game too.

BTW you are the most incomprehensible member of society.

 

[Doer]

Oh for fucks sake. I don't care what you mean or think about this I only go by what you say,
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Building 7 too hard to defend the BS lies? Not saying you know they are lies and are towing the status quo line, but duped people do that on their own accord because the alternative is too horrifying to think of.
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Yeah you are horrified to think we actually got it, ie, hat we received a hard hit, unaware with our own stolen planes 3 and almost 4 times.

Who cares about building 7 but you deniers, So stupid,. Who cares? So what?

Boring.

 

[NoDrama]

Oh for fucks sake. I don't care what you mean or think about this I only go by what you say,
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Building 7 too hard to defend the BS lies? Not saying you know they are lies and are towing the status quo line, but duped people do that on their own accord because the alternative is too horrifying to think of.
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Yeah you are horrified to think we actually got it, ie, hat we received a hard hit, unaware with our own stolen planes 3 and almost 4 times.

Who cares about building 7 but you deniers, So stupid,. Who cares? So what?

Boring.

LULZ

 

[Doer]

A partial damage partially on fire building with ER hero types, roaming it, and live smoldering fuel everywhere, cannot just break into conflagration UN-containable on it's own? Right.

There are a hundred ways that can happen, that involve no lying at all. You spread lies.

You have a cocktail party view of the Physics, is all. High School at best,

 

[NoDrama]

and live smoldering fuel everywhere

Citation please, even the official report says this was very unlikely and that no evidence exists to bolster such an argument.

Apparently Doer has access to information the rest of us cannot see and he will not share.

 

[NoDrama]

Not a far drop to very dumb, for you, is it?

What's with the insults? You feel bad cuz I proved you wrong and now you feel like an idiot and want to flail your arms and fling shit?

I spread lies? The only thing I have spread are the facts, YOU are the one spreading the lies. I have citations of official sources to back up all of my claims, you have DOER, which in my book has less credibility than Fox News or CNN.

So what you gonna do? Gonna call me names? That doesn't prove anything, only that you can't stand on your own arguments so you have to resort to personal attacks because your arguments hold no water and are easily dismissed by facts that prove otherwise.

 

[Dr Kynes]

if by magic, the Arabs were transformed, overnight, into Danes, this whole matter would be solved by early next week.

with an invasion of britain...

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

with an invasion of britain...

or squaw-raping in Newfoundland for the summer months.........the fjords get so gloomy.

 

[Dr Kynes]

No, engineers DO NOT design skyscrapers to fall into their own footprint, they design the building to never fall no matter what.

in a perfect world cars wouldnt crash, boats wouldnt sink, nobody would be struck by lightning, and buildings would never fall down until we wanted them to.

who asserted that engineers build building sto fall down into their "footprint" ?

Nobody.

demolition men design explosives to do that, but demolition men dont usually use hijacked jumbo jets as the initiator of their demolition:

now if you could find this invoice in Silverman's papers:

then maybe you could make the case that he was behind it all

otherwise it's a pretty good bet the jumbo jets smacking into the towers was the proximate cause of their collapse, and the flaming ruble was the cause of the eventual collapse of wtc 7.

that the buildings fell down when they lost their structural integrity is not surprising, since when things fall, it is generally accepted to be in a DOWNWARD trajectory

if you can find examples of objects falling in a different direction, now would be a good time to present that evidence.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Really? Bin Ladin is a structural engineer well versed in how to make a plane destroy a building?

Whats funny is that the buildings were designed to take multiple hits from big passenger jets. But whatever.

Why change subject to twin towers now? Building 7 too hard to defend the BS lies? Not saying you know they are lies and are towing the status quo line, but duped people do that on their own accord because the alternative is too horrifying to think of.

actually yes...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/etc/cron.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/world/timeline-life-of-osama-bin-laden/
http://www.ibtimes.com/osama-bin-laden-trivia-civil-engineer-affluent-construction-magnate-bomber-282133

he had a degree in civil engineering and grew up in a family of civil engineers, worked on construction sites, etc etc etc.

i reckon he had a good idea of how buildings were put together.

plus his plan worked, he even said it worked better than he imagined, so i guess thats pretty conclusive.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Citation please, even the official report says this was very unlikely and that no evidence exists to bolster such an argument.

Apparently Doer has access to information the rest of us cannot see and he will not share.

21000 gallons of diesel fuel, stored in the building to fuel the emergency generators for the crisis response center...

the NIST report is clear that the fuel in the tanks burned, though it was not the primary fuel for the fire, furnishings, electrical equipment and the structure itself were the main fuel.

but 21000 gallons of diesel couldnt have been salubrious for the building.

 

[Hazydat620]

Are you just stupid here? You don't know that he was trained as a structural engineer in his family's business of large, industrial construction? You don't know he targeted those building because he knew he could kill them, that he could destroy the entire thing?

He knew to direct the planes to leave that big structure on top, intact to crush the rest of the building, I have seen the video in Pastun, that my Pastun friend told me the translation. They were laughing at how easy it was. And Moszum was laughing about how hard it was to explain it to the others. But, they did get it.

Sit DOWN.

Easy? right, that's why they came crashing down the first time he tried huh.