Sannie's SugarPunch

OGEvilgenius

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Ph issues are exceptionally rare. Overfeeding is really common and doesn't result in burnt to a crisp plants unless you go way overkill. Anyway, it will do fine in your organic mix grease. I have little doubt about that. I'm assuming it's properly cooked etc.
 

rory420420

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well, we'll I started them the same way I always do, and i'll be growing mine in the same mix I've been using for years, 100% organic, and proven time and time again, with over 15 strains, so if it gives me issues there, then i'll know its a weird strain.
which I hope its not.
I have faith in sannie...
thats my point with mine..doing the same old routine as the countless other strains,but achieving less..
i have a well it the side of a valley..it rains a few days,p.h. goes whack..alot of plants planted at the same time had the same issues..few crispy spots on a fan leaf..
i went to sleep last night thinking of all the clones..im excited:-D
 

OGEvilgenius

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Yeah, but not all strains are the same and especially sativas vs indicas... huge differences in nutrient requirements. Which is why using generic formulas from a bottle will never produce the best plants unless you are hyper dedicated, have a microscope, do some lab work (and a lot of testing) etc.
 

Blindnslow

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Just made my order for sugar punch today after reading this thread. Wanted to order bluehammer again, since it is in my top 3 strains of all times. But found 3 reg bluehammer beans last week IDK I had. So went with SP. Wanted Selene for months now however never pulled the trigger. Also very interested in soliloqueen but read mixed reviews. Love Sannies!! Hope they legalize globally so I can use my CC again with them.
 

greasemonkeymann

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Yeah, but not all strains are the same and especially sativas vs indicas... huge differences in nutrient requirements. Which is why using generic formulas from a bottle will never produce the best plants unless you are hyper dedicated, have a microscope, do some lab work (and a lot of testing) etc.
I agree, I use nothing from a bottle, minus my bottle of squid emulsion and my molasses, I have a mix of soil and amendments that I like, and I feed according to plant, I have ZERO regimen, I feed, water, and harvest, as each plant indicates, some strains I have, for instance the jack herer, is a super light feeder I feed it three times after I trigger flowering and I get the maximum taste and results that I want from doing that, granted the soil I use/make has lots of long term foods, like alpaca manure, & fish bone emulsion, the teas I use are medium to heavy, but I LOAD up the mycos and the soil loves it, I can't remember who said it first, but first you grow good SOIL, then roots, and then the plant will reward you.
 

greasemonkeymann

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thats my point with mine..doing the same old routine as the countless other strains,but achieving less..
i have a well it the side of a valley..it rains a few days,p.h. goes whack..alot of plants planted at the same time had the same issues..few crispy spots on a fan leaf..
i went to sleep last night thinking of all the clones..im excited:-D
ah, that's shitty, rain water can be super acidic, depends on what type of industrial crap you have near you.
our well is going to be cleaned this weekend and that means bleach/chlorine, which means the 50 bucks of mychorrizae I have in my soil is probably going to be fried.... damnit.
evidently there is some funky business going on in our well though
 

rory420420

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hmm..im glad botanicare does all that for me at a factory,add some myco and molasses and im ready to grow:-D..i couldnt begin to think id buy all that stuff,mix it for each individual plant/strain,apply as needed for each plant,with 90 or more plants at any given time..condensed tea in a jug,or hours extra messing with stink water..i choose a jug..makes more sense for my situation,and the results are the same either way,ive compared and contrasted both in my own grow with standard conditions..there is no advatage imo other than bragging rights of the "do it yourselfer"..to each their own,like i allways say,there is no best method out there for everybody...the best is whatever makes you satisfied.
ive mixed soil but have the same results with promix and botanicare,only difference is i know i have to feed once a week,w soil its a toss up..plus i gotta mix ammendments in,and wait..with promix,i get it wet and get it done..i do however use my soil mix for outdoors.i still find i need to feed a little towards the end of the summer..
 

rory420420

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ah, that's shitty, rain water can be super acidic, depends on what type of industrial crap you have near you.
our well is going to be cleaned this weekend and that means bleach/chlorine, which means the 50 bucks of mychorrizae I have in my soil is probably going to be fried.... damnit.
evidently there is some funky business going on in our well though
you ever try paul stamets myco packs? highly reccomend it..cheap as fuck and works so well it should be more expensive than gold...root BLOCKS..not balls.lol..i very rarely promote products,even if they work well,but i yell about this myco any time someone will listen..
yea wells suck..to top it off,there is a fair amount of sulfur in the water due to a neighboring lake,i feel it clogs up my filters twice as fast as normal..i actually put an extra plant in the flower room every other month to cover the overhead of filters and such..i like to change em every 30days tops...
 

greasemonkeymann

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you ever try paul stamets myco packs? highly reccomend it..cheap as fuck and works so well it should be more expensive than gold...root BLOCKS..not balls.lol..i very rarely promote products,even if they work well,but i yell about this myco any time someone will listen..
yea wells suck..to top it off,there is a fair amount of sulfur in the water due to a neighboring lake,i feel it clogs up my filters twice as fast as normal..i actually put an extra plant in the flower room every other month to cover the overhead of filters and such..i like to change em every 30days tops...
no actually I haven't but I totally will now, thanks for the advice.
I'm the same way, it takes ALOT to get me to actually promote a brand of anything. Only ones I do happily are vortex and vermifire, course everything else I use is just basic organic amendments
 

greasemonkeymann

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hmm..im glad botanicare does all that for me at a factory,add some myco and molasses and im ready to grow:-D..i couldnt begin to think id buy all that stuff,mix it for each individual plant/strain,apply as needed for each plant,with 90 or more plants at any given time..condensed tea in a jug,or hours extra messing with stink water..i choose a jug..makes more sense for my situation,and the results are the same either way,ive compared and contrasted both in my own grow with standard conditions..there is no advatage imo other than bragging rights of the "do it yourselfer"..to each their own,like i allways say,there is no best method out there for everybody...the best is whatever makes you satisfied.
ive mixed soil but have the same results with promix and botanicare,only difference is i know i have to feed once a week,w soil its a toss up..plus i gotta mix ammendments in,and wait..with promix,i get it wet and get it done..i do however use my soil mix for outdoors.i still find i need to feed a little towards the end of the summer..
it's not so bad, I use vermifire as a base, and then add simple foods that aren't too crazy, but I don't have anywhere NEAR 90 plants, I grow usually 12 each time, depending on size. Mostly I use 15 gallon air pots, so it's not much more than a 4-5 hr endeavor to tranplsnt/mix up the new stuff, besides I have to mix in the myco, glacial dust, lime, and greensand anyways, so why not add some alpaca manure/rabbit manure, bone meal, and so on, it's only an extra step. I don't like to add anything that has to wait, which is why I use rabbit and/or alpaca manures, they don't have to compost.
plus once you buy a box of fish bone meal, alfalfa meal, greensand glacial dust, etc, etc, the boxes last a LONG time, I think I spent like 150 bucks on all the different amendments and that's lasted probably 10 harvests already, maybe more, only ones I have to keep buying are the phosphorus bat guanos/seabird guanos, and worm castings.
 

rory420420

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i use fish emulsion on my dads mint farm..hes got mint knee high and im over 6ft tall!.lol..
when you say vortex,are you talking about the vortex brewer?
 

greasemonkeymann

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i use fish emulsion on my dads mint farm..hes got mint knee high and im over 6ft tall!.lol..
when you say vortex,are you talking about the vortex brewer?
no, the vortex inline fans, they're a lil pricey but I've had ZERO problems with mine ( ihave 4 of them), and I've had them for around 15 yrs, running 24 hrs a day. still work perfectly
for the amperage they use, they are super efficient
 

rory420420

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yea ive got a few..i.gave one to mreduck actually..i thought you were talking about that
vortex tea brewing system...
 

Behind Dark Clouds

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ah, that's shitty, rain water can be super acidic, depends on what type of industrial crap you have near you.
our well is going to be cleaned this weekend and that means bleach/chlorine, which means the 50 bucks of mychorrizae I have in my soil is probably going to be fried.... damnit.
evidently there is some funky business going on in our well though
Can't you use h202 to clean the well? Idk I don't have one my father in law does though and he feeds all his plants his well.
 

greasemonkeymann

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sure you totally could, but to clean the whole reservoir you'd need A WHOLE lot. So that's the bleach, much more effective, and he doesn't care about my soil health
our well water is actually ok, it's the gigantic reservoir that the well pumps into that is the problem, my dumbass landlord cut all the trees down near the reservoir so now it sits in the sun which= germs...
 

rory420420

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Can't you use h202 to clean the well? Idk I don't have one my father in law does though and he feeds all his plants his well.
i wouldnt know how,its got a cap and pump on it,plus i know for a fact when it was drilled 20 years ago or so,the hole was near 300ft before they reached the water...its just from heavy rains leachin through the soil..its always normal about a week or so later..small rains dont mess it up,but those 3 day downpours suck!
 
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