Mixing White & Multi Spectrum Chip LEDs to Grow MedMan Silver Skunk BX1

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I thought about that but the Spydr fixture will make it easier for me to hang and place them. Plus, the fixture is almost $400 cheaper than buying 6 individual bars. I am not to educated in led technology so I am not sure why it is better to have a driver in the bar than in the spine of the Spydr. Better heat dissipation? Or is there another reason?
 
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Ahhh..youve seen my skills improve from scratch pet. From my first UFO mod..lol. Hardest part is starting!

Still doing it all with basic hand tools..Dremel..and a rotozip..

6 at 10w bars sounds something like fluxs setup. Nice way to go for sure...I do think lower power leds will be getting phased out soon..like 5w or less. Just so much easier to run these cobs

I bet by the end of the year the market will be flooded with white cob grow lights
 
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dojoking said:
I thought about that but the Spydr fixture will make it easier for me to hang and place them. Plus, the fixture is almost $400 cheaper than buying 6 individual bars. I am not to educated in led technology so I am not sure why it is better to have a driver in the bar than in the spine of the Spydr. Better heat dissipation? Or is there another reason?
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It's not that one is better than the other, just that the SPYDR is confined to a 3 x 3 area, whereas the individual bars provide a lot of flexibility as to positioning.

The SPYDR is a much better deal
 
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PetFlora said:
It's not that one is better than the other, just that the SPYDR is confined to a 3 x 3 area, whereas the individual bars provide a lot of flexibility as to positioning.

The SPYDR is a much better deal
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Ahhh I see, the space I will be using to grow will only be 4'x4' at most so the 3' spine centered in the middle will only leave 6 inches on both ends left over. So its just about perfect for my space needs. Thanks for looking out for me though :bigjoint:
 
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I should have said a max of 3 x 3 as the bars can be squeezed together, as I am doing now

It easily lights > 6" beyond its' max footprint, so covering a 4 x 4 is a no brainer with uniform umoles/m^/sec
 
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monkeychief said:
I'm not trying to be critical of BML or the light itself, but the design as this is a new product/concept, and have just been released so there's plenty of room for improvements. If my assumption is incorrect, then u just clarified it, because I was only responding to your comment. It was never meant to put BML nor the Spyder down, as it was not the intention. As with any design, it has to run through it's course in order to work out the bugs. This is technology and it's progression and without our(market) feedbacks, any design flaws will be overlooked.

Sorry, I didn't want to kick the beaten dog about it's cover as it's been kicked the crap of, but merely responding to your statement bout the cover's grove.

As I stated before, this is a very good concept to offer the flexibility of adjusting the coverage and intensity to fit your particular application. We are the actual end-users that will put products thru the ringer and manufacturers will use our feedbacks to improve their products. Once the bugs have been worked out, they will definitely have a winner if it can deliver the intensity as stated.

The vid was to point out the importance of proper spectrum and intensity in relationship to the yield/quality, especially density. Anyone who has grown with leds knows how hard it is to get HPS density, which has plague this technology from the beginning and has been the HID's guys argument of their superiority over leds, along with yield.

One must also consider to some, including myself, airy buds is unexceptable and is considered a failure, be it from lighting, nutes, or whatever have you.

Like u and the rest of the people present, we are very curious of this new concept that took Illumitex's concept to the next level, and should be commended, accordingly. I also think the Spyder will do a lot better if u had a few more bars. I understand they do have a bigger model, but we are talking bout the subject unit u are testing.

You're right, these bar systems were designed for large-scale, multi-level, commercial farming application and have just recently been adapted for canna-specific application. The problem is our application demands a lot more intensity than the above mentioned commercial application.

Yes, I agree with your Toyota analogy, but in this case, density and yield are of concern. But then again, fluffy, airy buds makes just as good concentrates and other processed meds depending on the individual. Besides, it's always nice to make things perform better, especially if it's just a design issue that that be easily corrected or improvised. Practicality doesn't mean u have to compromise on everything, especially performance.

Again, all of my comments are not aimed nor intended to discredit the Spyder itself, but to point out possible design flaws that can be improved upon.

I'm also aware, and those who know me, that I tend to be very aggressive on wattage, intensity, and spectrum, because my idea of efficiency is getting as much as possible for the same amount of effort and resources invested, along with utmost quality. For this, I will refrain from any more comments out of respect for this product evaluation and attend this thread in a spectator capacity only. Some of us are happy growing plants, while others prefer to grow trees. I'm the latter.

In closing, I would like to commend BML on a great product and design concept, which just need a little tweaking, should be a winner.

Good luck with your grow and wish u the best, sir. Looking forward to the final results and pics. :weed:

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Hey Monkey!

They just don't get it... Let see three 100 x 3 watt panels ( less than $150 per panel and that is because shipping kicked me in the head) fully documented grow. Enough said spend your dollars how you want. You need spectrum and intensity, and the wattage to get that intensity... I checked out the Illumitex, Lil Tomato concepts and the SPYDER all light bar LED. The don't put out the intensity of these 100 x 3's. I been growing with various LED's for 3 + years. Was a long time HID (HPS / MH) grower before that. Never could come close to the density of HPS until this last grow. The quality was always awesome with LED"s. Look into Haitz's law LED's will continue to improve.... Yet still can't beat the SUN.... Poof ... Gone like a nice big bong rip...
 
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FYI, Monkey is preoccupied, provably won't be responding any time soon

SPYDR Update

Full rez/filter clean change

Now ~ 660ppm

Buds continue to fatten up

Large pic is of fattest BMM bud

Loaded with trics

Shorty

She seems to be responding to getting the vertical lighting

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Update

UFO Tent

This morning I dumped the nutes and replaced the igloo cooler with a bucket to eliminate algae build up- not that it was a big deal, but this set up is cleaner. The netpot lid fit perfectly on the bucket, an the lip provides space for the air stone tubing

SPYDR

Not much to say here other than ~ 7-10 more days, so starting a slow flush

Shorty's lower buds have fattened up quite a bit since adding the 2 BML bars

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SPYDR

No perceptible change, so no pics

No cloudy trics yet

Changed nutes lowered ppm to ~ 400

UFO tent

I am very happy with how fat the lone plant is getting
 
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