A little help with tea?

Ballsonrawls

Ballsonrawls

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i have never used teas before and may be incorrect with what i am doing but here is the current setup. 5 gallon bucket with a cup of chicken manure and worm castings, with 5 tbsp of molasses. i let the water sit overnight and add a pinch of vitamin c. then i add my ingredients and let it bubble for 24-36 hours before applying. i dont really have money to spend on extra materials but was considering a few. one being humic acid, and the second being earth juice rainbow mix. i am confused whether or not to mix the rainbow mix with the current solution i am using. ive read that fungi and bacteria combat with each other. so should i use the rainbow mix as a top dressing instead of adding it to what i have in the 5 gallon bucket? as i said, i am completely new to this. any positive feedback would be greatly appreciated. thank you in advance.
 
bertaluchi

bertaluchi

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I try to spend as little money as I can when it comes to tea. I have a worm composter so I always use earth worm compost or EWC, and I like to use compost from my compost pile as well. The only thing I spend money on for my tea is kelp (which is super cheap) molasses(also really cheap and available at your local grocery store, just be sure to get BLACKSTRAP) and some sort of mycorizae product like Plant Success or (my personal favorite) Oregonism XL from Aurora,the same folks who make Roots Organic. Thats about it. If you use the products I have listed here, you should have a great tea with minimal cost. And if you go to Aurora's web site http://www.aurorainnovations.org/ you can request a free sample or Orgenonism XL, all you have to pay is six bucks in shipping. Just go to their website and click on nutrients and look on the left side of the page for the free sample offer. I just got one even though I have used the stuff for a few grows now, just because it is almost free. Good Luck Dude.
 
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nova1992

nova1992

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You should not mix mycos into your tea until you are just about to water or the mycos will become food stock for the bacteria that are alive.. Mycos need living roots or else they go dormant and get eaten by the things that are not dormant. So dont add them until you are just about to water
 
Rooster~420~

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I just started my own indoor compost. I have had compost in the past, however this makes the 1st one Ive ran Indoors. ;) I start off by making a humus. I boil me up some rice for the added nutrients from the rice... lol Humus---> watered down humus --> PIC_2156.JPG little bit of this 2 --> PIC_2239.JPG & even this PIC_2161.JPG , & also a teaspoon of this --> PIC_2240.JPG a tablespoon of that --> PIC_2253.JPG & using hellagarmites ---> PIC_2044.JPG .. I previously used worms. ;) It helps to throw in some other ingredients to the mix of things such as coffee grounds,paper towel rolls, "green stuff" for added (N), I also throw in some organic liquid seaweed. I do allot of other stuff to this mix to make up the completed product. If anyone would ever be interested in such, don't hesitate to ask ;)




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bertaluchi said:
I try to spend as little money as I can when it comes to tea. I have a worm compost so I always use earth worm compost or EWC, and I like to use compost from my compost pile as well. The only thing I spend money on for my tea is kelp (which is super cheap) molasses(also really cheap and available at your local grocery store, just be sure to get BLACKSTRAP) and some sort of mycorizae product like Plant Success or (my personal favorite) Oregonism XL from Aurora,the same folks who make Roots Organic. Thats about it. If you use the products I have listed here, you should have a great tea with minimal cost. And if you go to Aurora's web site http://www.aurorainnovations.org/ you can request a free sample or Orgenonism XL, all you have to pay is six bucks in shipping. Just go to their website and click on nutrients and look on the left side of the page for the free sample offer. I just got one even though I have used the stuff for a few grows now, just because it is almost free. Good Luck Dude.
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st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Some good advice above. I would make one brew with compost/castings + molasses. That's it. This will inoculate your soil with billions of microbes. The other tea you can add rainbow mix, kelp meal, etc. I would compost the chicken poop before using in a soil or tea.

Also, don't put castings in water and leave them sit. You should be aerating the water to ensure that the tea doesn't turn anaerobic on you.

As mentioned above (but bares repeating) never add mycorrhizal fungi to a tea. Apply it directly to the root zone when you plant/transplant.

Edit: No need to add vitamin C either
 
bertaluchi

bertaluchi

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Hey st0wandgrow, what is the reason for not adding mycos to your tea? I have always add it in the past and it seems to be fine.
 
DonPetro

DonPetro

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Mycos need living roots to attach themselves to by means of hyphae. They tap into the roots in order to live and do their thing. Without roots they die. Its best to water some in just prior to adding the tea.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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bertaluchi said:
Hey st0wandgrow, what is the reason for not adding mycos to your tea? I have always add it in the past and it seems to be fine.
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Adding them to a tea certainly won't hurt anything, but they essentially become foodstock (an expensive one) for the other microbes in your brew as the spores will remian dormant until their is a host root system for them to attach to. You want to dust the roots/rootzone with them when you plant.
 
DonPetro

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Yea we dusted the roots when we transplanted from cup to one gallon and the males that didn't get the myco (stoner moments) had far less root mass than the ones that had.
 
Ballsonrawls

Ballsonrawls

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thanks for all the replies guys. my dad bough me a small industrial pump and that baby gets the water going. he also bought me some fish emulsion, humus and kelp. i made a tea yesterday and used it tonight. smelled great and was extremely dark. again thanks for the suggestions guys.
 
Ballsonrawls

Ballsonrawls

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im not sure, its a maybe 3 inches wide, 3 inches tall and six inches long. all metal and works like a charm. extremely powerful.
 
Ballsonrawls

Ballsonrawls

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  1. so my current tea ingredients are the following. molasses, bat guano, worm castings, hydrolyzed fish, humic acid and kelp. ive read that humic acid is best applied as top soil or watering but not with teas. im gonna stick with it. and as for kelp, ive read that it takes longer for the bacteria to grow. still gonna stick with it haha. i may do a few other plants and see what the results are by not adding the humic and kelp.
 
greasemonkeymann

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Ballsonrawls said:
  1. so my current tea ingredients are the following. molasses, bat guano, worm castings, hydrolyzed fish, humic acid and kelp. ive read that humic acid is best applied as top soil or watering but not with teas. im gonna stick with it. and as for kelp, ive read that it takes longer for the bacteria to grow. still gonna stick with it haha. i may do a few other plants and see what the results are by not adding the humic and kelp.
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that's a rich tea, i'd dilute it 1/5.
 
Ballsonrawls

Ballsonrawls

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i dilute it by 1/2. microbeman stated that teas with this recipe dont need to be diluted. what dilution does is spread the density of the microbes. so the more i dilute it, the less microbes there are in an area. by half, i am able to soak the pot with not too much microbe dilution. thanks though :)
 
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