abstinence only christians in your face again

[skunkd0c]

i have highlighted lots of mistakes made by psychologists/psychiatrist
misdiagnosis is common for mental patients
so much is left to the interpretation of the individual doing the diagnosis
along with other reasons for such a high level of misdiagnosis

what are some of the things psychologists/psychiatrists
have got right ?

 

[ginwilly]

you are making my point for me with every post where you fail to name a "subjective orientation" in the body of scientific knowledge of psychology.

Wow so you are serious, you just didn't get it when I asked why you were so upset with me saying soft science. I thought you were just messing with me.

Feelings are subjective. I can pour water on five people and get the following
You made me mad
You refreshed me
You upset me
I hate this and don't want to play water games anymore
You invaded my mind with nanobots

Subjectively, I have five different findings. Objectively, I got five people wet.

 

[skunkd0c]

Freud was the founder of psychoanalytic therapy. So yes, a therapist CAN diagnose if they have the credentials. Therapist is a loose term.

not in the UK

anyone diagnosing would of studied for a long time they would never refer to themselves as a therapist

 

[ginwilly]

I used to assist a physical therapist named Krok, I really like iontophoresis therapy. I never really understood the complete benefit until I started treating my own knee! It was amazing!

Luckily I now practice a new profession of horticulture! Easier hours, doesn't hurt my knee as much.

I like ionto, we used to have a lot more liberty with it but insurance......
I had about a fifty/fifty success rate with heel spurs using acetic acid, vinegar. This rate was not good enough to get reimbursement but it's pretty cool.

 

[greenlikemoney]

Abstinance only chicks are hot.
They may not fuck you.
But they will blow you and take it up their ass

So Uncle Buckplug is an abstinent chick?

 

[skunkd0c]

once they get a bit higher up the chain they do not call themselves Dr anymore
they gain the title Mr

 

[AlecTheGardener]

not in the UK

anyone diagnosing would of studied for a long time they would never refer to themselves as a therapist

In the US a psychiatrist may also study psychology which allows them this ability. A psychiatrist must go through medical school then they are allowed to study their specialty. They may also prescribe drugs.

 

[ginwilly]

not in the UK

anyone diagnosing would of studied for a long time they would never refer to themselves as a therapist

would you say a psychiatrist over there is performing behavior therapy if they prescribe a drug to elicit or prohibit a certain behavior? Over here we do. Anyone administering behavioral therapy can be called a therapist and not be slighted over here.

 

[ginwilly]

once they get a bit higher up the chain they do not call themselves Dr anymore
they gain the title Mr

Really? That's fascinating to me. Over here they will sometimes get offended if they are referred to as Mr. Even the polysci prof over here will correct you. That's funny.

 

[skunkd0c]

overhere only very seriously mentally ill people would ever see a psychiatrist on a regular basis
this would only be for an initial diagnosis and it would most likely be a trainee one too on the NHS as those guys are expensive
if you pay for it yourself you could see someone more qualified than a therapist/counselor

they offer two paths on the NHS , therapy = counseling these people only have basic qualification 2-3 years study
or drug therapy or a combination of both
drugs are prescribed by the patients GP general practitioner
a counselor/therapist obviously can't prescribe drugs

they tend to call those who practice CBT psychotherapists or psychologist they are the next step up from a counselor
but again many of these here can't prescribe as they are not fully medically trained like a psychiatrist always are and can always diagnose and prescribe medicine

 

[AlecTheGardener]

I can see the reasons for some miscommunications then. Thanks for the knowledge drop.

 

[ginwilly]

How do you achieve the level of MR after DR over there?

 

[skunkd0c]

Really? That's fascinating to me. Over here they will sometimes get offended if they are referred to as Mr. Even the polysci prof over here will correct you. That's funny.

yeh it is funny something i noticed when visiting folk

the registrar or consultant is a step above the regular Dr
so these guys are always known as Mr to all the patients and the other doctors
they also tend to wear nice suits and speak very posh lol

 

[ginwilly]

I can see the reasons for some miscommunications then. Thanks for the knowledge drop.

Yeah, that was eye opening. Over here, anyone with enough money can see a psychiatrist all they want.

 

[skunkd0c]

i guess you guys have different titles for many of the positions
if someone was in hospital for a major operation th
a very posh Dr who would wear a nice suit never dressed like a Dr and be known as Mr would talk to the patient and explain the procedure , its very unlikely he will operate on anyone
he kind of overseas a particular department for a particular illness or disease , i guess they are also called a specialist but never a Dr

 

[skunkd0c]

yeh if you pay yourself you can see a psychiatrist for aslong as you can afford it

but the majority of people cant afford it and use the NHS so they do not get someone so qualified as its too expensive
i guess psychiatrists could do CBT too lol
im pretty sure they work in a more diagnosis and prescribing capacity
they are kind of at the top of the tree bigwigs lol

if you had the money you would possibly pay for private psychotherapists
as they would not be so expensive

 

[AlecTheGardener]

i guess you guys have different titles for many of the positions
if someone was in hospital for a major operation th
a very posh Dr who would wear a nice suit never dressed like a Dr and be known as Mr would talk to the patient and explain the procedure , its very unlikely he will operate on anyone
he kind of overseas a particular department for a particular illness or disease , i guess they are also called a specialist but never a Dr

That is a department head. Or chief of surgery here. This person often operates and observes interesting cases that come through.

Since we don't have titles officially here perhaps this is a reason for difference. No governmental officiated titles, as stated in constitution. Medical doctors, dentists, sometimes lawyers, learned' specialists (PHD level studies). DR is a big deal here, it is a complimentary title that most people don't mind using for a medical doctor, and the occasional dentist that is nice enough.

 

[skunkd0c]

That is a department head. Or chief of surgery here. This person often operates and observes interesting cases that come through.

Since we don't have titles officially here perhaps this is a reason for difference. No governmental officiated titles, as stated in constitution. Medical doctors, dentists, sometimes lawyers, learned' specialists (PHD level studies). DR is a big deal here, it is a complimentary title that most people don't mind using for a medical doctor, and the occasional dentist that is nice enough.

i think mate although i am not sure, this MR thing is part of the British class system
or some kind of dr tradition they learn
or its some kind of social etiquette observed by the upper classes lol
i do not think it is an official thing these guys also take pride in being a MR as it separates them from the lowly DR

 

[AlecTheGardener]

Hrmmm, may indeed be a UK social tradition. It is certainly new to me, seems a bit backwards.

Clearly I don't understand because I don't make in excess of £1.5 million or have the family pedigree.
Damn peasants.

 

[skunkd0c]

when the consultant (Mr) (insert Double-barrelled name) visits a patient if she is an old lady she will put her best night gown on for the consultant lol
its almost like royalty is coming for a visit