Old heads.. I need help.. Mystery disease

bluecollarirons

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Here is a mystery and a conundrum for anyone who can help me.. Im not a newb. I have been growing for a lot of years. I have done coco, soil mix, aero, hydro. Right now Im running a flood and drain controller with a 55 gal rez and 8, 5 gal buckets. Im using botanicare and I'm running a dead rez with gold zone. I root in a cloner. Then I put babies into rock cubes until roots establish. Then I put the cubes in net pots with hydroton.
I created this profile specifically to start this thread. I never bring clones into my grow. I grow from seed. Except this one time. I got a REALLY good sour P pheno from a buddy of mine. He had no bugs or anything as far as i knew.. I think I was wrong though. Normally with this setup I get 3 to 3.5 lbs a light.. Yeah thats right.. 3 to 3.5. The system and nute regiment is perfect. The problem Im having is this:
4 grows ago I noticed my roots looking like shit. They where brown and slimy and stopped growing. Usually my buckets are filled with bone white roots. Looked just like pyth. I ran h2o2, didn't work. I ran physin 20, didn't work, I ran gold zone, didn't work. Every kind of benny you can think of (rizo, orca, aqua shield etc). Didn't work. This lead me to believe maybe something else is going on here besides root rot. I did some research and found a thread talking about a new microscopic root aphid thats going around.. U can't see them. Even with 30x mag. They will suck the life out of your roots and make them look just like they have pyth. So I was like bugs? Ok not the first time. So I threw all I had at it including Imid which I don't like using but I was at wits end.. Nothing worked.. Then I thought maybe its brood mites. I threw everything I could think of at it. Neem, take down, forbid 4F, azamax etc. Nothing.. Come to find out my buddy who I got the clone from has it too.. And he can't get rid of "it" either. W changed out our whole systems. New buckets, new hose, new pumps etc. Nothing is working. I thought I had it licked and just put 8 new ones in veg. Im in week 2 and Im seeing signs again.. The first thing you notice is the new growth is yellow. Looks like its nuts deficient. Something is the roots is not allowing the plant to eat.. I cloned them in a cloner and the roots where super white and healthy when they grew.. Now Im seeing the signs again.. I got rid of my mothers.. I ordered new seeds. Im thinking the only thing it can be is some pathologic bacteria or disease? Im at a loss.. Anyone else dealing with this??
 

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abe supercro

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So I threw all I had at it including Imid.
I ran h2o2, didn't work.
I ran physin 20, didn't work,
I ran gold zone, didn't work.
Every kind of benny you can think of
(rizo, orca, aqua shield etc).
I threw everything I could think of at it.
Neem, take down, forbid 4F, azamax etc.
It's surprising that you haven't killed them with all that.
Did you try- throwing them into flowing?

Azamax is basically Neem. I don't know what's wrong with your plants but I've had plants slow and yellow from too much neem. Hydrogen peroxide in high enough concentrations will burn your roots. Most of that other stuff, besides mycos, is poison.

BlueC.- sometimes less is more. good luck
 

bluecollarirons

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Is your water city water and your friend that gave you clone have same water source?
I think so.. And to the guy up top.. I know all that.. But thank you.. Its not bugs and its not pyth. Its gotta be some sort of systemic bacteria or disease.. thats the only thing i can gather.
 

Bud Tipps

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Whatever it is, it sounds like it's in the water source. If you can, try different water and see if it goes away.

This is only happening with this one pheno? Are the 8 new ones the same genetics as the ones that had the problem?
 

bluecollarirons

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I have it again this batch too.. They looked great all through veg. Then last week of veg the roots started looking pythy. Now they are done week one of flower and no new root growth. I can't take this shit any more. I have replaced everything in my system 3 times now.. Im running a dead rez with high levels of gold zone.. Its NOT pyth. It can't be
 

bluecollarirons

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Is your water city water and your friend that gave you clone have same water source?
its all the same.. I don't heart of anyone else having this issue as far as i know.. i would of heard something at the grow store by now.. U know how world gets around.. and i have it again now.. after replacing all my shit for there 3rd time.. I'm running a dead rez too
 

so1jah

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its all the same.. I don't heart of anyone else having this issue as far as i know.. i would of heard something at the grow store by now.. U know how world gets around.. and i have it again now.. after replacing all my shit for there 3rd time.. I'm running a dead rez too
i use to run dwc and had a problem with the water had cyanobacteria started using ro and everything changed
 
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