Northern Iraq falls to Al Qaeda, $400 million looted from central bank.

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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londonfog said:
To be fair to NOdrama...Cheney was ESO which does mean it was more of a call option...But you still are BUYING a stock in which he did and turned around and sold it. Meaning he did have stock in which he sold. Our bet was if he had stock. he did Red should be gone
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they'll just continue to deny reality. it's what they do as conservatives.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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NoDrama said:
tell me Buck, what is a "put" option? Is it used to pay employees of a company like London says? Or is it a strategy used to make money on a losing stock?

Do you have any clue at all? No, none at all.
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I take the blame on that...but he did have stock after he took office. He exercised his option
 
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NoDrama

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UncleBuck said:
In finance, a put or put option is a stock market device which gives the owner the right, but not the obligation, to sell an asset (the underlying), at a specified price (the strike), by a predetermined date (the expiry or maturity) to a given party (the buyer of the put).
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Very good, you can quote wiki, now, tell me is a put option and corporate stock options for an employee the same thing? If you say yes, you agree with London, if you say no, then you agree with Red.
 
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NoDrama

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londonfog said:
Guy he exercised his option in 2005 which means at one point he did have....come one you finish the sentence.
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So? Your claim is that stocks and corporate pay options are the same thing, now you need to leave politics forever and never come back.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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NoDrama said:
Very good, you can quote wiki, now, tell me is a put option and corporate stock options for an employee the same thing? If you say yes, you agree with London, if you say no, then you agree with Red.
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No Red states that he did not have any stock after he took office...He did
 
londonfog

londonfog

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NoDrama said:
So? Your claim is that stocks and corporate pay options are the same thing, now you need to leave politics forever and never come back.
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I'm saying he exercised his option..which means he had stock and then sold them...ESO are considered call options. He had the option to buy at a fix price...he did and sold them for a nice profit
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
Very good, you can quote wiki, now, tell me is a put option and corporate stock options for an employee the same thing? If you say yes, you agree with London, if you say no, then you agree with Red.
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so cheney had corporate stock options while halliburton was profiting off no bid contracts in a war that cheney manufactured the case for?

yeah, you're really winning this one.
 
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NoDrama

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londonfog said:
I take the blame on that...but he did have stock after he took office. He exercised his option
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No he did not!!
He did not exercise his options.

According to the Vice President’s Federal Financial Disclosure forms, he held the following Halliburton stock options:

100,000 shares at $54.5000 (vested), expire December 3, 2007
33,333 shares at $28.1250 (vested), expire December 2, 2008
300,000 shares at $39.5000 (vested), expire December 2, 2009

I would agree that Cheney held substantial financial interest in Halliburton in options, but personally held no stocks.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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AlecTheGardener said:
Red. Review my posts, they are constructed to have you reply. You rarely do not reply to someone who 'prods' you.

So I used constructive criticism to push you forward until you went completely off the rails! I didn't realize you would derail so.


Think what you want buddy! I can't see your house from here in California luckily.

Internets.
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Review my posts, they are constructed to have you reply
 
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NoDrama

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UncleBuck said:
so cheney had corporate stock options while halliburton was profiting off no bid contracts in a war that cheney manufactured the case for?

yeah, you're really winning this one.
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Hurry!! create a strawman, you might be able to cut it down, maybe.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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NoDrama said:
No he did not!!
He did not exercise his options.

According to the Vice President’s Federal Financial Disclosure forms, he held the following Halliburton stock options:

100,000 shares at $54.5000 (vested), expire December 3, 2007
33,333 shares at $28.1250 (vested), expire December 2, 2008
300,000 shares at $39.5000 (vested), expire December 2, 2009

I would agree that Cheney held substantial financial interest in Halliburton in options, but personally held no stocks.
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Ok now we are getting somewhere !!!!! Tell me what happen to that 100,000 shares at $54.5000 (vested), expire December 3, 2007. Did it expire in 2007..The answer will tell you why Red has to leave..
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
No he did not!!
He did not exercise his options.

According to the Vice President’s Federal Financial Disclosure forms, he held the following Halliburton stock options:

100,000 shares at $54.5000 (vested), expire December 3, 2007
33,333 shares at $28.1250 (vested), expire December 2, 2008
300,000 shares at $39.5000 (vested), expire December 2, 2009

I would agree that Cheney held substantial financial interest in Halliburton in options, but personally held no stocks.
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433000 stocks is almost the same as zero.
 
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NoDrama

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NoDrama

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UncleBuck said:
433000 stocks is almost the same as zero.
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The right to purchase is not an obligation to purchase. You are too dumb to argue this, you have zero understanding of derivatives, options, puts, calls, longs, shorts, or hedging. call it quits you math retard, ASU dropout.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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NoDrama said:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/25/russias-putin-gains-strategic-victory-with-chinese/?page=all

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/world-report/2014/05/28/whats-driving-the-china-russia-natural-gas-deal

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/26/russia-gas-deal-china-europe-energy-security-danger


Where you been Hiding Kynes?

Oh wait, if you watch USA TV you would never have heard of this.

China will pay Russia with Yuan, Russia will pay China with Rubles.

A new "De-Dollarized" world is coming.

Under Chinese law? Where do you come up with this stuff? There is no law that restricts the Yuan from being used outside the USA, its tradeable on the FX markets.

The currency only used for internal use in China is called the RENMINBI, not the same thing as the Yuan.

Try some research next time.

Foot snugly in mouth.
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the renminbi IS the yuan.

read the article i posted previously that explains it in detail.

my foot is NOT in my mouth, my foot is planted squarely on solid ground.
 
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