NBC: Obama's presidency is over

nontheist

nontheist

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Jimdamick said:
Yea, I'm a partisan, so what? I just don't like people getting screwed, which doesn't seem to matter to the GOP, and that is probably why Reid said no. So what are you boyo? You must feel strongly about something as your name implies. See, I am convinced God doesn't exist, where as your name implies that he might. No convictions? Oh, and by the way, I don't like kool-aid, you have to use too much sugar. But I love acid. Peace
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You're a self admitted partisan which means you let passion rule reason and ultimately cannot be compromised with. Quit blaming republicans with your bigoted blanket statements, you are the problem. Nontheist is the rejection of all theism asshat, but nice attempt at shitflinging...typical liberal name caller. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontheism
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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AlecTheGardener said:
No sides here. I got shot at, rocketed, and mortared too many times to have any affiliated parties.

No check boxes ticked on my registration for party.

I find both wars to be wrong.

Ask me that question when I was 18 and I would have more then likely said it was a 'righteous' war.

'They' say there may have been a reason for Afghanistan. Who is they? Maybe my subconscious. Could be I am making up for my comrades who passed in that conflict.
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You have a perspective I don't have so any opinion given is based in that fact. No offense intended.

Thank you for your service btw.
 
bu$hleaguer

bu$hleaguer

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Jimdamick said:
Yea, I'm a partisan, so what? I just don't like people getting screwed, which doesn't seem to matter to the GOP, and that is probably why Reid said no. So what are you boyo? You must feel strongly about something as your name implies. See, I am convinced God doesn't exist, where as your name implies that he might. No convictions? Oh, and by the way, I don't like kool-aid, you have to use too much sugar. But I love acid. Peace
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The haves always want to protect and the have nots always want to take away. Haven't the public learned what having a radical liberal in office will do to everything? It's good to be partisan but you need to open your eyes to what radical change creates.... Shit!
 
AlecTheGardener

AlecTheGardener

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st0wandgrow said:
Not our problem. If they bring it to our shores, then it's our problem.

I say stay out of the rat-holes in the middle east and let them sort it out.
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Fucked if you don't fucked if you do.


A solution is more complex then we give credit for.

If we leave that part of the world to itself will it implode or explode?

American politicians have long been at the game of dictator and nation manipulation. It goes wrong almost as often as it goes right. Don't like a guy in office in another sovereign nation? Fuck it, replace him with a puppet says Uncle Sam.

Then it backfires.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ginjawarrior said:
lol what year exactly are you trying to hark back to?



StateType of lawDate of first lawWho is coveredBase fine before feesUsage[4]
AlabamaPrimary EnforcementJuly 18, 1991Age 15+ in front seats$2591.4%
AlaskaPrimary EnforcementSeptember 12, 1990Age 16+ in all seats$15 ($25 actual)86.8%
ArizonaSecondary EnforcementJanuary 1, 1991Age 5+ in front seats; Age 5–15 in all seats$10 ($37.20 actual)81.8%
ArkansasPrimary EnforcementJuly 15, 1991Age 15+ in front seats$2578.3%
CaliforniaPrimary EnforcementJanuary 1, 1986Age 6+ in all seats$20 ($88 actual) $50 second offense ($190 actual)[5]96.2%
ColoradoSecondary Enforcement 4July 1, 1987All front seats; under 16 all seats$7182.9%
ConnecticutPrimary EnforcementJanuary 1, 1986Age 7+ in front seats$9288.2%
DelawarePrimary EnforcementJanuary 1, 1992Age 16+ in all seats$2590.7%
District of ColumbiaPrimary EnforcementDecember 12, 1985Age 16+ in all seats$50292.3%
FloridaPrimary EnforcementJuly 1, 19866+ years in front seat; 6 through 17 years in all seats$3087.4%
GeorgiaPrimary EnforcementSeptember 1, 1988Age 6–17 in all seats; Age 18+ in front seats$1589.6%
HawaiiPrimary EnforcementDecember 16, 1985Age 8–17 in all seats; Age 18+ in front seat$45 ($92 actual)97.6%
IdahoSecondary EnforcementJuly 1, 1986Age 7+ in all seats$10 ($51.50 actual)
i would carry on but you get the idea about when those laws came out thanks obama!!!


labels on soup tins interferes with your life? you do know the government dosent mandate you reading them?

thanks i̶n̶f̶l̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ obama!!!
legitimate worry thanks b̶u̶s̶h̶ obama!!!
gah taxes

really? what has it done to them?
ahh yes reefer madness a well known obama campaign video


when oh when can we rid ourselves of obama and get rid of these silly laws he's introduced.......?
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A label on every individual item raises costs that are passed on to consumers so yes, it affects you.

You act as though I am blaming Obama for the last years of government expansion. You seem offended and very protective of the man because I mentioned issues I had with the government before anyone outside of Kenya knew who he was.

I criticize government overreach, you defend Obama. What's that say?
 
bu$hleaguer

bu$hleaguer

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st0wandgrow said:
Myself included .... but shouldn't we learn from that hindsight? Indiscriminately bombing a country doesn't seem to work so well.
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Totally agree. We are so fucked due to our place in the world and how we feel we need to police everything all the time. Too much money wasted on war.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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nontheist said:
That doesn't make sense. Do you have amnesia?
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It makes perfect sense. Keep our noses out of other countries business. We may just find that events like 9-11 won't come to our shores if we stick to that. If it does happen again, then we go after the people/group responsible ...... not bomb the fuck out of 2 countries that mostly had nothing to do with it.

What aren't you following?
 
nontheist

nontheist

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st0wandgrow said:
It makes perfect sense. Keep our noses out of other countries business. We may just find that events like 9-11 won't come to our shores if we stick to that. If it does happen again, then we go after the people/group responsible ...... not bomb the fuck out of 2 countries that mostly had nothing to do with it.

What aren't you following?
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So your blaming 9/11 on Americans?
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ginjawarrior said:
how many of those laws are new additions?#


its almost like you lot have lived your lives with these laws but only realised they were there when a blackman became president
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really? For me personally I started bitching about our intrusive government when Carter said I could only buy gas on certain days of the week, when Reagan busted the Air Traffic controllers and gave the new guys everything the old guys were asking for it hit very close to home.

Do you think seat belt laws protect us or insurance companies? Who do you think lobbied for those laws as well as mandates that we must have insurance to drive? Do you think the tickets benefit us or the local cartel tax collectors? Without government lackies passing these laws for major insurance corporations, we would be just a tad more free today, and for me that's what it's about.

When freedom and individuality is your ideology and a man who is an admitted marxist campaigns to fundamentally change us and talks about spreading the wealth continues idiotic policies of the man he campaigned against as well as adding some new idiocy his skin color is irrelevant. We expect this out of Buck around here, but it's still insulting.

Is it insulting to you if we claim the only reason you support his Bush term 3 and 4 is the color of his skin? Because for the life of me, I can't see any other reason, so that must be it right?
 
nontheist

nontheist

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NoDrama said:
None of those dudes were from Iraq, not a single one was from Afghanistan or Iran either, not Syria or Yemen.
ALL of the "HiJackers" were from countries which are US allies and which have US military bases in them.
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What the hell are you talking about? That really isn’t the point of the discussion. I was referring to his statement about "when they bring it to our shores".
 
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