Trying to buy LEDs don't know what I should get mended help
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justugh
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clones
so that it is photos..............
crash course
led lights are formula .............so each brand is it own this is what they patten and protect
lens angle is very very important it tells u how deep the light will get into the plant
60..............deepest 40 inches usable light
90..............deep and spread out ,,,,,,,,,,about 28 32 inches
120............spread out the most.............about 18 20 inches deapth
photo plants ......u need a veggie and a flowering light or u need to buy a swtichable light
most leds have IR and UV light in them for this u need to protect your eyes get a pair of glasses other wise u will do damage that can never be fixed ........IR light is outside our range so those LEDs will look like they are off to check them just stick hand under light and it should feel warm in about 7 to 10 secs IR is working
so that it is photos..............
crash course
led lights are formula .............so each brand is it own this is what they patten and protect
lens angle is very very important it tells u how deep the light will get into the plant
60..............deepest 40 inches usable light
90..............deep and spread out ,,,,,,,,,,about 28 32 inches
120............spread out the most.............about 18 20 inches deapth
photo plants ......u need a veggie and a flowering light or u need to buy a swtichable light
most leds have IR and UV light in them for this u need to protect your eyes get a pair of glasses other wise u will do damage that can never be fixed ........IR light is outside our range so those LEDs will look like they are off to check them just stick hand under light and it should feel warm in about 7 to 10 secs IR is working
Macmac124
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How much heat would a 500 watt led put out cause this is 1 of the reason I'm going for led because in the summer I can't do more then 1000watts with three Inline fans and I refuse to put a ac in there
GreenthumbQC
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"photo plants ......u need a veggie and a flowering light or u need to buy a swtichable light"
No.... you don't. Growing world has known this fact for awhile. Full spectrum kid.
No.... you don't. Growing world has known this fact for awhile. Full spectrum kid.
GreenthumbQC
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LED produce virtually no heat but because your extraction method is over the top it will run GREAT. 3 inlines? You need just 1 bro.
justugh
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ok led are crap on heat.............i mean like 5 degrees between the intake and exhust done with correct CFM flow
now the other thing ...............the LED is marked for what ever Watt it is but the Actual power drawl is only about 60% that listed watt......300 watt is only 175 watt with a low amp 2.2
your trouble is in 2 parts
1 u need a swtichable light to allow u to grow and flower in same place
2 u are going to need 2 lights atleast 600w better if 900w (LED are shit for area of coverage they are all depth power so to use the whole area u going to need 2 lights to cover it ) 6x6 u are lucky most lights are 3.5x3.5 for flowering so the overlap is not horrible over strong and u got great coverage
justugh
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are u fricken nutz a full spec on clones ................photo strains
autos ok no trouble with a good light even mix of red and blue but most full spec lights are always red heavy for the flowering ........make the plant strech and then u got issuse with the reactions (i have never seen anyone say a full spec led does better on photos then a grow/bloom set up)
justugh
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guy
here is the light i am looking at getting to replace my 1000w hid
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C760FT6/
2 of those would do u great..............keep it 12 inches from the top of the plants u will get your maximum power and depth for that area
this has a 60 and a 90 lens ..........3 years maker backing ...........90 day return...........swtichable...........and u see the power drawl so hooking them into one line/timer is no biggie
here is the light i am looking at getting to replace my 1000w hid
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C760FT6/
2 of those would do u great..............keep it 12 inches from the top of the plants u will get your maximum power and depth for that area
this has a 60 and a 90 lens ..........3 years maker backing ...........90 day return...........swtichable...........and u see the power drawl so hooking them into one line/timer is no biggie
PetFlora
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Why not?
Don't now where you got your mind programming, but yes full spectrum, just not as much of it during veg
grown under ~ 4500 (3500 + 5000)
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Macmac124
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Yeah I was going to get the 1200 watt which really runs 5sum then thanks for the link on led
Macmac124
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You said that can replace a 1000 watt so I should only need two of them
justugh
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area of coverage
a Hid light has great area of coverage but very little depth (maybe 12 14 inches) ...............the LED light has great depth but shitty area of coverage
to make sure u pull the best out of your plants in the time u have is why i said to get 2 .............1 of those lights at 12 inches from the top of the plant would give u maximum power of grow in a 3x3 area u got double that so 2 of them
u can use a 1 alot stronger 900w or so but it means u have to have it up heigher to cover all the area with one light .,......this will lower the power of it and the over all depth into plant it gets the light is getting defused (as the light spreads out from the LED it loses power ....the higher above the plant it is the more area it can cover but the less depth and power it has )...............at 12 inches from the top u are in that maximum power zone for the plants to aborb and use but the area it covers is limited
justugh
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did not get it programmed ............ran exps to see
3500k is to yellow .......flowering u want 2700 to 3000k
veggie ..........5000k is oke but u gte a better reaction from 6500k
everyone and their mother knows Photos are bitches light leaks or the wrong spec and u have to add more time to your flowering to get the full goodiness out of ................and again i repeat i never seen one person say Full spec is better to grow Photos then a grow/bloom set up
if something works for u good .........but i done the work test plants to see who is right .............full spec on photos is fluffier buds and less amount then if u do it with grow/bloom set up
i want to open my own shop in this area when i can so i been running exp based off what u ppl say is the best ...............in a year in half u are the only one to ever say full spec for photos .............the test i ran was just to see how the growth of it compared to a auto
the auto stayed short as it grow tight nodes but the photo did not was 18 inches in 3 weeks
PetFlora
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Really.... and you know this how?
Several growers on RIU are using 3000K only with amazing results.
Why? Because it has plenty of the rest of the flowering and vegging spectrum within it
Pic is 43 days from first pistils
SPYDR 600 ~ 80% 3000K the rest a mix of 6500 + 625
Several growers on RIU are using 3000K only with amazing results.
Why? Because it has plenty of the rest of the flowering and vegging spectrum within it
Pic is 43 days from first pistils
SPYDR 600 ~ 80% 3000K the rest a mix of 6500 + 625
mahlon21
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So firstly hello- Im Mahlon a new user! This is my very first grow. I live in Texas where our summers are ridiculous. I have 13 plants now just entered veg state. One 2x4 T5 AND 4 CFLS. I’ve been really looking to invest in a bad ass LED, as you know they are expensive as hell, so I’m trying to learn about them as well. So thank you for posting this thread. So what exactly do i need to look for specifically when purchasing a Bad ass LED?! !? Please help THANKS
mahlon21
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justugh
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i am a bit of a geek .........with a over driven head (i am up for 32 hours before i can sleep and actually dream ........other wise i run 22 hours sleep for 6 and keep it going ).......so i read play games make moonshine ..........just plain be the Amish fucker
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/474243main_RW8-LightPlantsNeed_508.pdf
started with this one .........since we paided for them to do the work i figured why not use it
then u got this one ........this is the actual formulas.......if u look at the end it gives u 4 varibles
http://www.biologyjunction.com/photosynthesis_notes.htm
then got this to double check facts on lightwaves
http://www.citruscollege.edu/lc/archive/biology/Pages/Chapter06-Rabitoy.aspx
then i played around with T5 CFLs HID and LED light using differnet varibles on auto plants for a year (why autos becuase other varibles are completely removed and it allows me to do several strains in same space different size bags of soil/ buckets of water and since they are known for like both sets of lights at the same time a full spec is always the best choice with them since light and time does not matter it all genetics )
this is a link to my personal best and i only started year ago doing this with 600 bucks
https://www.rollitup.org/t/call-it-hydro-exp-gone-mad-imput-wellcome-autoflowering-strain-gone-nutz.764237/
that plant sent me and 3 friends to Denver for 4/20 ...........the cost of it was 1 dollar a day i plan on setting everything up like that modified with LED
i am looking to take hobby into a full time legal job .................u like the results on 3000k try 2700k one grow
(to test if i am right or wrong do a BHO blow test.............grow 2 plants one 3000k one 2700k same everything but the light and then take 1/4 a oz of each do a bho run 1 can tho 1/4 oz each then weight it ............u will get more resins from the 2700k then u would the 3000k )
and since that is the main goal of the whole grow is those little drops of dew at the end of the gland 2700k is a better choice
edit..............this is assuming u use UV light too to force the grow of the glands to protect the self like sun screen (it is in the full spec lights) or u can hit it with a finsher bulb the last few days before the cut to fatten them up
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mahlon21
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Is it not possible to attach a photo from my computer? When i click on the little icon above that says “IMAGE” it only gives me the option to enter a “URL” but i don’t have my photo’s saved to URL, i have them on my Desktop.. how do i make this happen??
Mahlon
Anyways - I’m mahlon.
Mahlon
Just Tugh, are you actually Amish?? IF so i think thats too kool bro! So I’m actually picturing A guy on the back of a wagon reading “Tom and Huck” or some other book with no shows wearing Overalls and a straw hanging from his mouth? Am i close? Actually , i think i just invisiond Huckleberry fin or someone, lol.. Im stoned don’t mind me.
Anyways - I’m mahlon.
spazatak
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if the TS is serious about LED go into the LED section and read up and ask some questions...
generally there are a few good companies and lots of shit ones...
the shit ones will grow but you take your chances..
Apache
Area 51
Hans
are tried and tested
Onyx and BML newer and they look to have a positive future..
if you want to go China leds then they will grow... but thye fails also...so buyer beware..
as i said earlier.. if you are serious go to the LED section....
generally there are a few good companies and lots of shit ones...
the shit ones will grow but you take your chances..
Apache
Area 51
Hans
are tried and tested
Onyx and BML newer and they look to have a positive future..
if you want to go China leds then they will grow... but thye fails also...so buyer beware..
as i said earlier.. if you are serious go to the LED section....