Led lights that work

DCobeen

DCobeen

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okay i do believe i found the led that works that will not break your bank. the mars II panels, yes made in china originally now have factory in USA/UK/AU they use 5 watt diodes and will make a panel custom for you. I spent 5 hrs ready posts and reviews about these panels and couldn't find any issue. the only issue was learning how to water again since it has way less heat the plants dont use as much. they are getting 1 gram dry weight per actual led watt. the 700 watt actual is 430watt and will give you fat dense buds. here is the link i read dont hate me for posting this link from another site. http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/1229301-complete-led-setup.html
This light is is $330 dollars and you have to keep it 36" from canopy so yes scrogging super cropping and lst will be needed unless you have 9 feet ceiling or use these vertically which isnt a bad ideal at all. has anyone used them here i found 1 and he loved it but havent seen the end of his grow yet.
Love and peace
 
hyroot

hyroot

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DCobeen said:
okay i do believe i found the led that works that will not break your bank. the mars II panels, yes made in china originally now have factory in USA/UK/AU they use 5 watt diodes and will make a panel custom for you. I spent 5 hrs ready posts and reviews about these panels and couldn't find any issue. the only issue was learning how to water again since it has way less heat the plants dont use as much. they are getting 1 gram dry weight per actual led watt. the 700 watt actual is 430watt and will give you fat dense buds. here is the link i read dont hate me for posting this link from another site. http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/1229301-complete-led-setup.html
This light is is $330 dollars and you have to keep it 36" from canopy so yes scrogging super cropping and lst will be needed unless you have 9 feet ceiling or use these vertically which isnt a bad ideal at all. has anyone used them here i found 1 and he loved it but havent seen the end of his grow yet.
Love and peace
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LG Led Solutions makes them. So you can get a better deal from the manufacture. I'm sure you already read all the negatives about the light. So won't go into that. At least save some loot not buying it from a rebrand company.


http://www.lgledsolutions.com/products.asp?selectclassid=014011&page1=1


If you want to go the chinese route check evergrow. They make vipars.

http://www.evergrowlighting.com/
 
DCobeen

DCobeen

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hyroot what was the neg you heard about the lights from lgledsolutions? those are the ones im looking at hard. they will make the lights how i want them and have a 3 year warrenty. I can afford $350 in a couple months when the lake goes out or i do a harvest and make it that way. but to get the big cola's i need a big light like the 400 which fits my space better than the 700.
Love and peace
 
hyroot

hyroot

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DCobeen said:
hyroot what was the neg you heard about the lights from lgledsolutions? those are the ones im looking at hard. they will make the lights how i want them and have a 3 year warrenty. I can afford $350 in a couple months when the lake goes out or i do a harvest and make it that way. but to get the big cola's i need a big light like the 400 which fits my space better than the 700.
Love and peace
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yeah the lg ones but from topled. lg copied blackdogs design. So they should be decent. I don't know how long they will last though. All the mars led threads are incomplete though. There a few black dog led threads. they did very good. One shot tested the black dog on youtube. So who knows about the longevity. I think evergrow would be a better choice. of course a51 or hans would be best.
 
DCobeen

DCobeen

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anyway i think i know what you mean. allot of copycats not using the better leds ect. the marsII is just as good as blackdog since they copied their setup mostly. here is the info to contact them. I will be having a custom led made with the light setup i want for flower and bloom. as for clone and veg ill buy a 3 watt diode led with jsut white 6500k and blue spectrum. im also ready you only need 1/3 the watts for veg room as you do flower/bloom.
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polydactyl

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I have been growing for about 6 years and at first i used 400w MH/HPS combo (veg/flower) and because of the summer heat I always went to CFL's (2 sunleaves pioneer IV Jr.'s 192w 14400 together) during summer.
To make a long story short I have been looking at buying LED's but why change what is already working well enough right?
So anyway my wife bought me the HTG 7-Band 240w LED Grow Light. Now I love HTG they are always helpful and the prices are not bad that is why she bought that particular one. Lights we easy to set up I have no heat problem at all it puts off less heat than my cfl's did and omg I am selling the MH/HPS because its just too much heat, a fire hazard really and I always think about the choppers and their little heat detector thingy but back to the grow..my buds look beautiful flowering now and through veg I didn't have a lot of stretching at all. The density and yield of the buds are as good as my 400w set-up. I know I know all that math about watts and lumens and PAR look I am not a scientist but I can say truthfully that my grow will be as good or better than any of my previous grows and it is the same strain (northern lights) same growroom same ventilation have never posted before because Im an undercover canna lover but i just had to speak out about it because I love these lights I will never grow with anything but LEDS anything else is a waste of money or a danger to everyone who lives in my apartment building but that is just my opinion
240w leds from HTG
fox farms ocean blend
fox farms grow big/big bloom
 
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Tazbud

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If you have some growing experience, cheap LED may be an option. New to growing, indoor growing, new grow methods i'd avoid the cheapies like plague!
Get something well proven even if smaller than desired...

Just another variable to lead to dramas. I went with Cidly and got a good enough result but probably no more efficient than HPS/MH (ie. not worth the trouble).
They are relatively cheap but then step back is a box full of Xmas tree lights worth 300$?

At least when a driver blew in the A-51 light I had it replaced soon enough..
Experiences with china were pleasant but very basic (I doubt they'd speak english when there Was a drama).
 
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pedrovski

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with this light you posted i'm not understanding the point of it having 850nm in the panel as far as i'm aware that has no real purpose to plants, a small amount of far red (730nm) in conjunction with deep red (660nm) certainly do alot to get the plants shooting up. in my latest custom spectrum panel ive included more 3000k and 4000k than blue leds and plants hardly seem to be stretching and 380nm rather than 390nm would be best for plants as this does more to aid in photosynthesis
 
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purplegrower02

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It's funny how such bs is thrown around on the web.

you can get an amazing cree led set up pushing 200 ACTUAL watts for $300 that will cover a 3x3 area good.

these will grow much better than any Chinese crap or even the Apache and area51 lights.
 
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az2000

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pedrovski said:
with this light you posted i'm not understanding the point of it having 850nm in the panel as far as i'm aware that has no real purpose to plants,
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I wonder if that's a real LED chip emitting 850nm or if it's something coming from the white chip and they depict it as a "band?"

The reason I ask is: Lighthouse Hydro does this with (at least) their 2014 v2 HO or UV lights. They list UV and IR, but there are no dedicated chips. When I asked about this they said it comes from the integrated phosphors in the white chip.

Could be marketing hype to make it sound like more bands. In LH's case, I figured it was just a way to depict to less savvy customers that they cover the full spectrum. I can see how a newbie might compare a typical blue/red light to LH's and assume LH is missing something. Calling out bands within their white chip might be legitimate (assuming the whites produce that spectrum to some extent).

In HTG's case, if the 850nm is part of the white light, for them to name it as a specific and useful band seems like just marketing.

To Poly: Does your light have any dim bulbs which look like they're not powered on? If not, I'd say the 850nm comes from the whites.
 
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pedrovski

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purplegrower02 said:
It's funny how such bs is thrown around on the web.

you can get an amazing cree led set up pushing 200 ACTUAL watts for $300 that will cover a 3x3 area good.

these will grow much better than any Chinese crap or even the Apache and area51 lights.
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i've currently got 3 100w 3750k cree pcbs in the mail that i got custom made using the same cree leds as the area 51 xgs 190 that cost me $120 all im going to need to do is get an Arctic Freezer 11 cooler for heat dissipation and these will hopefully get me some killer bud with all the hype over the xgs 190. I will be posting pics up once i have all the light and a grow diary soon enough :)
 
Positivity

Positivity

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az2000 said:
I wonder if that's a real LED chip emitting 850nm or if it's something coming from the white chip and they depict it as a "band?"

The reason I ask is: Lighthouse Hydro does this with (at least) their 2014 v2 HO or UV lights. They list UV and IR, but there are no dedicated chips. When I asked about this they said it comes from the integrated phosphors in the white chip.

Could be marketing hype to make it sound like more bands. In LH's case, I figured it was just a way to depict to less savvy customers that they cover the full spectrum. I can see how a newbie might compare a typical blue/red light to LH's and assume LH is missing something. Calling out bands within their white chip might be legitimate (assuming the whites produce that spectrum to some extent).

In HTG's case, if the 850nm is part of the white light, for them to name it as a specific and useful band seems like just marketing.

To Poly: Does your light have any dim bulbs which look like they're not powered on? If not, I'd say the 850nm comes from the whites.
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Oslon makes a 850nm...

http://www.osram-os.com/osram_os/en/products/product-promotions/infrared-products/ir-oslon-black-series-family/index.jsp

Unless there's a dimly lit..not lit led on the light it's probably just a normal white led. There's some marketing for you
 
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Chronikool

Chronikool

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pedrovski said:
i've currently got 3 100w 3750k cree pcbs in the mail that i got custom made using the same cree leds as the area 51 xgs 190 that cost me $120 all im going to need to do is get an Arctic Freezer 11 cooler for heat dissipation and these will hopefully get me some killer bud with all the hype over the xgs 190. I will be posting pics up once i have all the light and a grow diary soon enough :)
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Something like this..?

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-High-quality-Cree-100W-xpg-LED-Light-Lamp-DC30-36V-3000mA-White6000-6500K-WarmWhite-3000/1737767436.html
 
Goober23

Goober23

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polydactyl said:
I have been growing for about 6 years and at first i used 400w MH/HPS combo (veg/flower) and because of the summer heat I always went to CFL's (2 sunleaves pioneer IV Jr.'s 192w 14400 together) during summer.
To make a long story short I have been looking at buying LED's but why change what is already working well enough right?
So anyway my wife bought me the HTG 7-Band 240w LED Grow Light. Now I love HTG they are always helpful and the prices are not bad that is why she bought that particular one. Lights we easy to set up I have no heat problem at all it puts off less heat than my cfl's did and omg I am selling the MH/HPS because its just too much heat, a fire hazard really and I always think about the choppers and their little heat detector thingy but back to the grow..my buds look beautiful flowering now and through veg I didn't have a lot of stretching at all. The density and yield of the buds are as good as my 400w set-up. I know I know all that math about watts and lumens and PAR look I am not a scientist but I can say truthfully that my grow will be as good or better than any of my previous grows and it is the same strain (northern lights) same growroom same ventilation have never posted before because Im an undercover canna lover but i just had to speak out about it because I love these lights I will never grow with anything but LEDS anything else is a waste of money or a danger to everyone who lives in my apartment building but that is just my opinion
240w leds from HTG
fox farms ocean blend
fox farms grow big/big bloom
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I'm so glad I stumbled upon this post. I bought the same exact lights from HTG and I am currently doing my first grow ever with them. So far I'm in love. No heat problems to speak of and they really are just beautiful. Feel free to stop by my journal! It is only the third week or so but I'm excited. There have been minor speed bumps that were completely my mistake but I'm excited to see what these lights will do.

Link to my journal :3
https://www.rollitup.org/t/goobers-first-grow-soil-led-240w.838101/page-2#post-10773072
 
GroErr

GroErr

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DCobeen said:
anyway i think i know what you mean. allot of copycats not using the better leds ect. the marsII is just as good as blackdog since they copied their setup mostly. here is the info to contact them. I will be having a custom led made with the light setup i want for flower and bloom. as for clone and veg ill buy a 3 watt diode led with jsut white 6500k and blue spectrum. im also ready you only need 1/3 the watts for veg room as you do flower/bloom.
Email: [email protected] & [email protected]
Skype:sara-lgledsolutions
Call :86 13632822565
Chinese LED grow light Manufacture, Stock in USA,AU&UK.worldwide Shipping

My ultimate goal is to help all people growing great.


www.topledgrowlight.com
Top LED Grow Light Discount
grow tent sale only for USA clients
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I'd recommend against the Top LED LG's, gave them a good trial and while they produced, the product was fluffy/airy and no weight, a waste of time and money imo. That said, they veg well and I'm using them for that, they just don't flower well in comparison to alternatives. Check out the thread I ran on them here for more details. imo If you want to go with LED's stick with Apache, A51, Hans, Onyx, or DIY with some Cree COB's. Lots of posts in here with the recommended panels. Haven't seen any detailed posts with properly documented results on the LG or Mars from Top LED. For comparison I'm running a thread with CMH (sig) including a clone from a mother from the last LG LED round, running in an almost identical environment/medium, but already about 3x the bud size/weight and has 10 days or so to go. Not trashing LED's as I've seen what the good one's can do and I'll be adding some DIY Cree COB panels to my setup, but I do question a lot if not most Chinese LED panels, regardless of who they've copied/cloned. I paid for my lesson, hoping others learn from it without throwing away cash.
 
MightyMike530

MightyMike530

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PetFlora said:
WIDER SPECTRUM - The 7-BAND LED PANEL has SEVEN LIGHT SPECTRUMS to help your plants grow to their full potential!

What Bull Shit. An UNeducated consumer is their BEST customer. Are 7 bands better than 2-3-4-5-6... yes, BUT...

Plants benefit from more than PAR peaks

NW + WW rocks

Here are pics using 3500K + 5000K + 3000K added once buds set
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Did someone mention red/blue lights?



The LED police are on scene folks, we're all safe now, nothing to see here move along....
 
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