nutrients charts and acomadating for longer plants flowering

[Thc247]

hi everyone just a quick question to see what you guys would recomend ive got a guide which i had off an old time friend and grower i have used it on a number of grows with excellent results however i was given the guide on the bassis that i was growing cheese so based on 9 weeks flowering here is the guide.

Veg
week 1 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 2 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 3 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 4 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
flower
week 1 terra floors
week 2 terra floors bud xl
week 3 terra floors bud xl
week 4 terra floors bud xl
week 5 terra floors bud xl top booster
week 6 terra floors bud xl shooting powder
week 7 terra floors bud xl shooting powder
week 8 ripen
week 9 clean water

as i said i used this guide while growing cheese and was very very happy with the end result
my question is if i am growing a longer flowering plant where should i extend the weeks as to my chart if i decided to do a 12 week flowering strain what would i adjust on my chart please ?
also just another quick question regarding how much water do you all give to your plants i know this will proberly all be different due to lights soil temps etc but just to get a rough idea i was givin 2 litres each every 2 days while vegging but as plants got bigger like 3rd week of veg i upped it to 3 litres every 2 days what i would like to do is get an extra day out of feeding so was thinking of giving them 4 litres each today and leaving for 3 days till next feed im using terra professional soil in 15 litre pots under hps lights temps are around 88 while lights on and around65 - 69 while lights off

any help much apreciated
and if any of you know of any of the nutrients on my list that i could change to something else that is going to improve the end result please throw them my way
best results so far was 50 oz of 13 plants i was very impressed with that too

 

[Thc247]

anyone got any advice ??

anyway here is current op
5 weeeks into flower

 

[Thc247]

bump

 

[*BUDS]

Your making something easy seem hard.
Just use canna terra in coco every watering at the max amount on the label, veg and flower. You cant use a chart as plants consume more or less at different stages of growth and ambient temps and you must go by eye and feel of the pot.

 

[Dr. Who]

This would be how I would adjust your feeding chart for 12 week plants.

Veg
week 1 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 2 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 3 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 4 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
flower
week 1 terra vega
week 2 terra vega
week 3 terra flores
week 4 terra flores
week 5 terra flores
week 6 terra flores bud xl
week 7 terra flores bud xl
week 8 terra flores bud xl top booster
week 9 terra flores bud xl shooting powder
week 10 terra flores bud xl shooting powder
week 11 ripen
week 12 clean water


Any thing running 12 weeks is going to be Sativa dominate and generally, that means feeding fussy.
So, the less you feed may become as important as the "charting".......
If you get a "yellowing" of the lower fan leaves and it begins to move up and out the plants leaves.....You have started to use to much P to early.......(Hence I have the "Terra Vega" listed in your first two weeks of flower). To drop the Terra Flores in week 3 and use the Terra Vega again instead. Increase THAT again to week 4 if need be....

As far as any supplemental nutrition for gains,,,,,,,Hmmmm,,,,,,How about some home made "Sweet Raw". I say home made because it's FAR cheaper to make then to buy from Botanicare. EASY to make,,,,,,like this !

Get a bag of Epsom salts and some Dark brown sugar.
Put 8 Tbl spoons of the Epsom salts and 1 1/2 tsp spoon of the Dark brown sugar into 4 cups of water in a pot on the stove and bring to a boil. Stir to completely dissolve the Epsom and the sugar.
Pour the mix into an opaque gallon container and add water to equal the 1 gallon.
Use 20ml per gallon of feed at every feeding starting at week 4 (week 2 for 8-9 week runs).

This will add Mg and S and both will increase trichome production....Really works well if you run 1 extra week with pHed water only at the end of the run.

Good luck.

 

[Dr. Who]

Oh, yeah. Your watering adjustments should be fine......While I don't know your reason for the change, it should work.
I like to water a metered amount daily for the o2 the roots get from that method !!!!!

 

[sensimilla86]

This would be how I would adjust your feeding chart for 12 week plants.

Veg
week 1 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 2 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 3 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 4 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
flower
week 1 terra vega
week 2 terra vega
week 3 terra flores
week 4 terra flores
week 5 terra flores
week 6 terra flores bud xl
week 7 terra flores bud xl
week 8 terra flores bud xl top booster
week 9 terra flores bud xl shooting powder
week 10 terra flores bud xl shooting powder
week 11 ripen
week 12 clean water


Any thing running 12 weeks is going to be Sativa dominate and generally, that means feeding fussy.
So, the less you feed may become as important as the "charting".......
If you get a "yellowing" of the lower fan leaves and it begins to move up and out the plants leaves.....You have started to use to much P to early.......(Hence I have the "Terra Vega" listed in your first two weeks of flower). To drop the Terra Flores in week 3 and use the Terra Vega again instead. Increase THAT again to week 4 if need be....

As far as any supplemental nutrition for gains,,,,,,,Hmmmm,,,,,,How about some home made "Sweet Raw". I say home made because it's FAR cheaper to make then to buy from Botanicare. EASY to make,,,,,,like this !

Get a bag of Epsom salts and some Dark brown sugar.
Put 8 Tbl spoons of the Epsom salts and 1 1/2 tsp spoon of the Dark brown sugar into 4 cups of water in a pot on the stove and bring to a boil. Stir to completely dissolve the Epsom and the sugar.
Pour the mix into an opaque gallon container and add water to equal the 1 gallon.
Use 20ml per gallon of feed at every feeding starting at week 4 (week 2 for 8-9 week runs).

This will add Mg and S and both will increase trichome production....Really works well if you run 1 extra week with pHed water only at the end of the run.

Good luck.

Hey man I saw u post in the above part about if in flower and u c yellowing starting on lower fans and starts to move up is a this sounds hands down what I'm expierencing to a t now being I'm in my first run organic I don't really want to flush any suggestions on how to deal with this Im prolly just gonna lay low on the p for the next few feeds I thought it was low nitro so I hit with a minor shot of nitro but I didn't want to add to much being I'm in flower any ideas greatly appreciated sorry for putting this in ur thread thc247

 

[Dr. Who]

Your on the right track, Stop adding P at all if you can.....Run some Si (silica) for a cpl of feedings as Si helps to regulate P uptake.
Flushing would most likely bring up other problems at this point. So don't !
I don't bring added P into the picture until the 4th week of flower if I add any at all. Then it's small amount rise and no "spiking" the P until week 6, again, if at all. Most of this is all strain dependent in my book.

The "chart" I gave him is pretty aggressive, but he seems to have some background with that in his feeding of the Cheese. So what the hell, I gave him aggressive and solutions to possible problems for successive grows.

Oh yeah,,,,calling it low N is the single most "made" mistake I see around here....

Good luck!

 

[Thc247]

Hey man I saw u post in the above part about if in flower and u c yellowing starting on lower fans and starts to move up is a this sounds hands down what I'm expierencing to a t now being I'm in my first run organic I don't really want to flush any suggestions on how to deal with this Im prolly just gonna lay low on the p for the next few feeds I thought it was low nitro so I hit with a minor shot of nitro but I didn't want to add to much being I'm in flower any ideas greatly appreciated sorry for putting this in ur thread thc247

its absolutely fine putting in this thread and i too had the yellowing of leaves starting looked pretty bad i did add some epson salts and did also notice that the leaves that was turning yellow might not of been recieving enough light down below any way the yellowing of leaves stopped on mine and they now seem to be fine but it definately makes sence using veg nutes for the first few2 weeeks of flower during the stretch hope u get it sorted i was advised to not worry about the yellowing as it was more likely the plant was moving available nitrogen from lower leaves up into the tops for bud production

 

[Thc247]

This would be how I would adjust your feeding chart for 12 week plants.

Veg
week 1 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 2 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 3 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
week 4 Superthrive, stimulator 1, terra vega
flower
week 1 terra vega
week 2 terra vega
week 3 terra flores
week 4 terra flores
week 5 terra flores
week 6 terra flores bud xl
week 7 terra flores bud xl
week 8 terra flores bud xl top booster
week 9 terra flores bud xl shooting powder
week 10 terra flores bud xl shooting powder
week 11 ripen
week 12 clean water


Any thing running 12 weeks is going to be Sativa dominate and generally, that means feeding fussy.
So, the less you feed may become as important as the "charting".......
If you get a "yellowing" of the lower fan leaves and it begins to move up and out the plants leaves.....You have started to use to much P to early.......(Hence I have the "Terra Vega" listed in your first two weeks of flower). To drop the Terra Flores in week 3 and use the Terra Vega again instead. Increase THAT again to week 4 if need be....

As far as any supplemental nutrition for gains,,,,,,,Hmmmm,,,,,,How about some home made "Sweet Raw". I say home made because it's FAR cheaper to make then to buy from Botanicare. EASY to make,,,,,,like this !

Get a bag of Epsom salts and some Dark brown sugar.
Put 8 Tbl spoons of the Epsom salts and 1 1/2 tsp spoon of the Dark brown sugar into 4 cups of water in a pot on the stove and bring to a boil. Stir to completely dissolve the Epsom and the sugar.
Pour the mix into an opaque gallon container and add water to equal the 1 gallon.
Use 20ml per gallon of feed at every feeding starting at week 4 (week 2 for 8-9 week runs).

This will add Mg and S and both will increase trichome production....Really works well if you run 1 extra week with pHed water only at the end of the run.

Good luck.

thank you for your advice seems like i will use ur advice when im doing sativa infuture and yh i know it was an intense feed but like i said ive had excellent results in the past with 9 week flowering strains i did try a couple strains bubbleicious liberty haze and danky doodle but wasnt no where near as happy with the final result weight and dense of buds thanks for your help guys much apreciated

 

[Thc247]

Oh, yeah. Your watering adjustments should be fine......While I don't know your reason for the change, it should work.
I like to water a metered amount daily for the o2 the roots get from that method !!!!!

the reason for adjustments is because due to work and time available i could really do with an extra day before having to feed them 12 hour shifts to travel an hour to an from work to then drive to my op takes another hour then to feed them all takes another hour and drive home and then i get one night free and back the next day it was fine whilst i was doing just 9-5 but has been intense since 12 hour shifts 7 days a week but it is worth the work in the long run

 

[sensimilla86]

its absolutely fine putting in this thread and i too had the yellowing of leaves starting looked pretty bad i did add some epson salts and did also notice that the leaves that was turning yellow might not of been recieving enough light down below any way the yellowing of leaves stopped on mine and they now seem to be fine but it definately makes sence using veg nutes for the first few2 weeeks of flower during the stretch hope u get it sorted i was advised to not worry about the yellowing as it was more likely the plant was moving available nitrogen from lower leaves up into the tops for bud production

Ya right on thanks I gave her a flush today but at first thought it was nitro related but its on older fan leaves and had moved about quarter way up plant and on the very lowest leave there is like one or two brown dots size of eye dropper drop I'm using organics and really didn't want to flush but did a light one about a half hour ago I'm gonna hit with a nice compost / flower tea Saturday once all the soil dries up a bit hopefully this will set things straight I have only seen it on the skunk strains but the two others seemed to handle the higher p amts fine so I guess time will tell

 

[Thc247]

Ya right on thanks I gave her a flush today but at first thought it was nitro related but its on older fan leaves and had moved about quarter way up plant and on the very lowest leave there is like one or two brown dots size of eye dropper drop I'm using organics and really didn't want to flush but did a light one about a half hour ago I'm gonna hit with a nice compost / flower tea Saturday once all the soil dries up a bit hopefully this will set things straight I have only seen it on the skunk strains but the two others seemed to handle the higher p amts fine so I guess time will tell

same here too mate 5 different skumk strains all had same but haze liberty haze lemon haze etc no problem i think the skunk are just more aggressive hungrier plants in my experience

 

[sensimilla86]

same here too mate 5 different skumk strains all had same but haze liberty haze lemon haze etc no problem i think the skunk are just more aggressive hungrier plants in my experience

Yup I agree a hundred percent on that in veg those little suckers just took a ton of nitrogen