THC % Does Not Measure The High

Doer

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You guys realize 1) there are still unknown substances in there. 2) it effects everyone differently.

On the wall of my clinic is a sign that talks about 1/5 of people have a reversed effect for sativa vs indca.
 

qwizoking

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Interestingly enough I've never seen a stimulant overdose resemble anything other...
If it was reversed would their natural endocannabinoid system not be thrown out of whack?
(Its a rhetorical question, I know the answer)
I always laugh when I hear people say this..
 

profterpen

New Member
Awesome answer, I agree. THC is a complex structure and the potency is effected by CBD's, CN's, and Terpens just to name a few. The timing of the harvest is very important also. Invest in a good loop and keep a close eye on your tri's. Aim for slightly cloudy tri's, just as they start to amber. Then fine tune is from there.

Prof. Terpen
The 420 Institute
 

Doer

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Interestingly enough I've never seen a stimulant overdose resemble anything other...
If it was reversed would their natural endocannabinoid system not be thrown out of whack?
(Its a rhetorical question, I know the answer)
I always laugh when I hear people say this..
What kind of question is that? Are you an endocrinology expert become I was talking about iso-reciptor binding in the brain.

Never mind...just sound so off base,."thrown out of wack" That has no meaning,not even in Rhetoric. There are no experts in endocannabioid systems, IAC.

There is study of it which you could try some. Some endo-cabss are what are reversed, Iso-molecules. And so, some of the subjective experience is reversed.

"Interestingly enough I've never seen a stimulant overdose resemble anything other..." More meaninglessness. Good job. Maybe try to read some science.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165614700014826
Cannabinoid receptors, the molecular targets of the cannabis constituent Δ[SUP]9[/SUP]-tetrahydrocannabinol, are present throughout the body and are normally bound by a family of endogenous lipids – the endocannabinoids. Release of endocannabinoids is stimulated in a receptor-dependent manner by neurotransmitters and requires the enzymatic cleavage of phospholipid precursors present in the membranes of neurons and other cells. Once released, the endocannabinoids activate cannabinoid receptors on nearby cells and are rapidly inactivated by transport and subsequent enzymatic hydrolysis. These compounds might act near their site of synthesis to serve a variety of regulatory functions, some of which are now beginning to be understood. Recent advances in the biochemistry and pharmacology of the endocannabinoid system in relation to the opportunities that this system offers for the development of novel therapeutic agents will be discussed.
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
lol....
thanks for that..yes i am actually and my doctorate is in pharmacology ;)
i thought all of riu was aware of that by now

there is a huge difference between reversed and receptor dependant.. would that 1 in 5 actually become hungrier after eating a big meal? this is what i meant by thrown out of whack..im not gonna argue here.we arent talking about sensitivities but a reversal. i gave a stimulant example, the body releases hormones and such with an intended effect say adrenaline. if the bodies receptors were reversed it would be "thrown out of whack" unable to function properly and be classified with some disease
this isnt even a topic that can be argued
 

Doer

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If you had a doctorate, (and who the fuck cares, ego head) you would not say "out of wack" twice as if that had some meaning.

Also, any PhD worth his salt, can speak a lot better than you, is more clear and careful with explanations. I work all day with PhDs.

But, like I said, who the fuck cares? All RIU on 3700 posts. Nice self liub.
 

Texas(THC)

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If you had a doctorate, (and who the fuck cares, ego head) you would not say "out of wack" twice as if that had some meaning.

Also, any PhD worth his salt, can speak a lot better than you, is more clear and careful with explanations. I work all day with PhDs.

But, like I said, who the fuck cares? All RIU on 3700 posts. Nice self liub.
you are getting defensive over nothing...
and bro you have 11,000+ post

Sorry no offense to you Doer just hear people out and be open minded
we are all here to learn
 

Squidbilly

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Its all in the trichs..yes heat messes with most of the terpenes, thc is also a terpene
Is it all in the trichs? I do not believe so...
This is part of the reason some of the 'white' strains can be covered in resin but be mediocre in the potency department. Or some of the least resin covered buds can be the most potent. It's also part of the reason I believe wax or dabs aren't as medicinal as smoking flower-your only getting what's in the trichs, not all the flavinoids/terpenes/etc. I could be wrong, but these are observations I've made during my years smoking. Dabs give me a really narcotic, jackie chan, couch lock high without any of the other benefits smoking flower gives me(help with my adhd/ocd/appetite/anxiety). I've been trying to figure out why and I believe it's because terpenes/cannabinoids/flavinoids are left behind in the bho extraction. Anyone else have any thoughts about that?
 

qwizoking

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THC along with all the cannabiniids and terpenes are only produced in the trichrome.
Having a lot of frost doesn't mean potency. Flavor doesn't get you high, many super frosty plants are low odor as well. Many compound s are produced within including waxes and crap
How did you get that out of my post

In other words, yes your wrong
 
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qwizoking

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Its because your using too much heat in the evap/purge. Your extract should smell strong and be exactly like the herb in effect. I also prefer the easier to purge, alcohols. Which also extract a wider range of compounds and at different rates. Terpenes etc are more welcome
 
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Squidbilly

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Its because your using too much heat in the evap/purge. Your extract should smell strong and be exactly like the herb in effect. I also prefer the easier to purge, alcohols. Which also extract a wider range of compounds and at different rates. Terpenes etc are more welcome
It's not my technique, and I've tried many different people's extractions and I prefer the high of flower. There's got to be terpenes that are destroyed/left behind with any extraction. I think even making bubble destroys some of them, I'm sure butane must destroy some. New research is saying how important 'flavors' are to the high and the reason two strains can have the same exact cannabiniod profile, but vary so differently in effect-the terpenes have a huge impact on the overall high. I know I'm not the only one who thinks the high from flower is better then bho. So if all the terpenes are in the trichs/resin then the process of making bho depletes/alters/destroys some of the terpenes? Sure good oil smells great, but not near as strong as the bud it was made from.
 

Yodaweed

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You guys realize 1) there are still unknown substances in there. 2) it effects everyone differently.

On the wall of my clinic is a sign that talks about 1/5 of people have a reversed effect for sativa vs indca.
I have the reversed effects, I tend to smoke only sativas because it helps me a lot with my ADD/ADHD. Most of the strains that are medical for ADHD and ADD are sativas and it seems that people with those disorders seem to have different effects when smoking marijuana. I been smoking my whole life because it is the only thing that can really help me without having terrible side effects.
 

qwizoking

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You realize that's normal right?
Nothing reversed there. Sativas help you focus, I mainly grow s.a landraces. Love that mind fire


Yes there are many reasons I don't do bho.. it is much more selective than an alcohol extract

Good oil smells much stronger than bud. Its basically cannabis essential oils, it will fill the place up. Especially wax. Most people don't extract properly though
 

Yodaweed

Well-Known Member
You realize that's normal right?
Nothing reversed there. Sativas help you focus, I mainly grow s.a landraces. Love that mind fire


Yes there are many reasons I don't do bho.. it is much more selective than an alcohol extract

Good oil smells much stronger than bud. Its basically cannabis essential oils, it will fill the place up. Especially wax. Most people don't extract properly though
I love the wax I get from the dispensary the hummingbird nectar they sell here in Colorado is amazing so gold and tastes amazing!
 
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