tightpockt
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Are they making them in their basement or something?
They all come from the same places, illegal or not.
60 shot, 11 killed in Chicago 4th of July weekend shootings
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They all come from the same places, illegal or not.
DonAlejandroVega
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yes.......people make guns. take away the stolen/smuggled weapons, and illegal gunsmiths will pop up.
ghostdriver
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Seen the way people act at funeral?
tightpockt
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Come on, you know that's disingenuous. You can't say with a straight face that the problem is illegal gunsmiths...lol
Gun manufacturers pumps out killing machines by the millions while the NRA fights agains any and all restrictions and your surprised that with such availability and low price that they end up in the hands of criminals...well, no shit. You think if guns were banned or so severely restricted that the black market price were, lets say for arguments sake 5 grand, that there would be a shooting every 10 minutes in north philly?
DonAlejandroVega
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no.....the problem will THEN be illegal gunsmiths. the market isn't there.......yet.
see: zip guns, 4 winds shotgun, et al
ghostdriver
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DonAlejandroVega
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I'd like to give you a sandy hook
DonAlejandroVega
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Martin Timothy warned me about you in a bowl of Alphabits.
ghostdriver
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tightpockt
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Zip guns only work if you have a bullets to put in them.
I can't see your average north philly thug toting around a zip gun..mostly because that wouldn't be very gangsta!
Do Australia, England, (insert any other country with responsible gun laws), have a huge zip gun problem now?
It's a supply and demand issue. Again, you can't be surprised that anyone can buy a gun off the street for $50 when you support laws and policies that allow gun manufactureres to flood the market.
Violent crime is largely a poverty issue. Limit supply, price rises, poor black people can't afford guns = less shootings. You can't support that though because that would undercut your argument that you need guns because bad guys have them too.
desert dude
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See: amendment 2 to the US constitution. It is black letter law.
tightpockt
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I'm going to take this response to mean that you agree with everything I said since you didn't acknowledge any of my points and instead jumped to that old, tired, 2nd amendment nonsense. Here's the thing about standing behind the 2nd amendment....it's dumb.
Also, when you "invoke" the 2nd amendment, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. But since you brought it up, fine, I'll make a concession. You can have all the muskets you want.
The 2nd amendment isn't just there to protect me from individuals, it's there to protect me from governments as well.
tightpockt
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Try and set up some surface to air missiles in your backyard and see how that argument holds up.
DonAlejandroVega
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black men are being raised up into sociopathy, by single women, 16 years their senior, with no male figure to learn empathy from anywhere around, other than "dude from the el" who will be around for a while, since he has planted your half-sibling, in the Queen. these women beat their sons, and act aggressively with these boys at a higher rate than other groups, which correlates to high levels of criminality, and incarceration.
children learn empathy from men
beating and berating children creates sociopaths
make all the guns in the world evaporate, and these young men will murder each other, and others. if they have to use their bare hands. and Uncle makes it easy for women to get money for these kids, again freeing the black family of its men, builds more prisons, and carries out endless wars. Obama lauds the "good old days" when not only could you beat your child, but even your neighbor's child. not one citation. nothing. you seem emotionally involved in this issue. seek the truth.
DonAlejandroVega
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it doesn't say he's gonna win. it says he may defend himself from tyranny. sometimes that is end-result enough.
Uncle hases bigguh guns, lawdy......he da Massa. great mentality
tightpockt
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I think philadelphia has it's own unique social dynamics involving race and has little to do with how I feel about guns. I live two miles from Temple, I delivered pizzas up there for a while as a part time thing, I know all about it. But, that's a different conversation.
If I had to boil down how I feel about guns it would simply be this (and I can't overstate this enough) GUNS MAKE IT EASY TO KILL LOTS OF PEOPLE
DonAlejandroVega
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other than self-defense, sociopathy is the only needed ingredient for killing.
I can't have guns, because of some fucked up social dynamic of a small minority of Americans?
I will surely make guns then. and flame-throwers, and cannon, lasers............
for when the Red and Blue chariot race fans ruin this country.