Abnormal growth please help

malco1987

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I have been growing these for over 2 months now but they look like they need something but I'm not sure what also have something eating my leaves but the pests aren't visible to me or they hide when I'm around :cuss: and i was wondering why they only produce three tips on the fan leaves :?
 

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Bugeye

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I don't think you've given enough information about your grow to get a good answer. So here's a speculative answer: They don't like the soil.
 

malco1987

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I don't think you've given enough information about your grow to get a good answer. So here's a speculative answer: They don't like the soil.
Lol ok i will try... i did not purchase these seeds from a seedbank i live in Jamaica so seeds are easy to get i have a friend that has some skunk and he gave me some seeds that his females produced so i figured i'd try them out, out of 9 seeds i got 5 males and these 4 females, fertilizers are expensive here so i figured i'd go organic, so before planting i grew a couple red kidney beans (a leguminous crop) when they were around a month i dug up the earth and basically covered them with soil from my garden (not potting soil) after a week i cut up some banana peels and mixed it in with the dirt as well as a couple eggshells then i planted them on top, they were planted on the 1st of May this year the only thing i do to them is water them with tap water in the evenings so that the leaves can dry by the time the sun comes out and i also spray the older fan leaves once a week with a mixture of baking soda and water to keep mold and fungus gnats away, based on stuff i've been reading on the site i think my problem could be nitrogen deficiency but just wanna be sure and if there are any cheap easily procurable stuff i could get to substitute nitrogen with

EDIT: also i didn't mention that i pulled the males too late so they pollinated two of the females already :(
 

cc2012

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Taken From Dutch Passion:

DUTCH PASSION said:
Autoflowering feminised seeds, often called ‘Autofem seeds’ are a relatively new development in the world of cannabis seed technology. What makes these seeds different is the way they crash through their growth cycle going from seed to finished bud in about 10 weeks whether they are growing indoors, in a greenhouse or outdoors.

As a result of the short lifespan autoflowering seeds often produce small, short plants ideal for a discreet but sunny corner of the garden, greenhouse or patio. The resulting autoflowering plants tend not to give the same massiveyields as larger plants that grow over a full 6 month summer, however a Dutch Passion customer did report a 205 gram yield from a single AutoMazar in Southern Europe one summer. Normally around 50-100 grams is achieved per plant.

Autoflowering (autofem) seeds have created a surge of interest in the cannabis community since they were first introduced. As with the creation of feminised seeds, Dutch Passion have played a key role in the development of autoflowering seeds. Today Dutch Passion have the most extensive collection of autofem seeds on the planet and they continue to work hard to promote and develop them.

The term ‘automatic’ refers to the fact that autoflowering seeds do not rely on shortened artificial/natural daylight hours to stimulate the flowering cycle that produces the cannabis buds. Instead the autoflowering varieties use deliberately inserted genetics from the Ruderalis cannabis family. Ruderalis cannabis is normally not psychoactive but has the unique ability to grow from seed to mature adult in just 10 weeks allowing it to survive inhospitable climates and short growing seasons in Northern Russia and Northern Canada. Dutch Passion have bred Ruderalis genetics into some of their best selling strains to create autoflowering varieties. Furthermore, these varieties have been feminised meaning that the autoflowering seeds give rise only to female plants.


Autoflowering varieties have been especially important for outdoor growers. Normally cannabis is planted outdoors in the Northern Hemisphere around April and harvested around October, a 6-7 month lifecycle. However some countries have summers that are too short to allow outdoor growing. Growers in these countries had to resort to either indoor or greenhouse growing and sometimes this was not always convenient/safe for the grower. Autofem seeds changed that, even growers in Northern Scandinavia are able to find a suitable sunny 10 week growing window and the result is excellent quality marijuana. In Mediterranean climates up to 3 separate crops a year are possible with autofem seeds.

Autofem seeds can best be grown Indoors under a system of 20-hours light/4-hour darkness over a 10 week period.

Dutch Passion’s autoflowering seeds have rapidly become best sellers. Many growers have found that the unique properties of autofem seeds were just what they required. Easy, quick and convenient – try growing some this summer!
 

Diabolical666

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You have some mite issues, spray with a garden insect spray and or miticide. Not enough light and so small to be in flwr. Bad clay dirt, roots have a hard time growing. Too closely planted together...I didnt want to touch this thread but you asked lol
 

cc2012

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Yeah bit of a misleading with the Dutch Passion Article Sorry! LOL! Yeah You can get Seeds from Autos, Can Even Get Auto Regs...I actually have some on the Grow as we Speak(Type) KC45 Auto(Regs) only ended up with 2 x Females out of 5 Beans popped...But these are Weird to say the Least!! On Day 107 in the Dirt and Day and 21st Day of Flowering...and both over 127cm tall....???

My "Bad" though I should've mentioned em

atb
 

Dr Kynes

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Thanks i have been educated... based on what i read they are not auto's because i got some males from the seeds
"autos" are automatic flowering plants. they dont rely on the photoperiod to begin flower production.

autos will go from vegetative growth to flowering without changing the length of the light exposure which happens with the changing of the seasons outdoors or by altering the timing of your lights indoors.

non-auto cannabis plants will grow foliage with no flowers for years if they get more than 16 hours of light a day.

once you set the lights to 12 hours of light and 12 of darkness, then the flower buds appear.

feminized seeds are just seeds which have been treated to produce few if any male plants, increasing your odds of buds per seed, and reducing the chances of pollination by an errant male.
 

malco1987

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You have some mite issues, spray with a garden insect spray and or miticide. Not enough light and so small to be in flwr. Bad clay dirt, roots have a hard time growing. Too closely planted together...I didnt want to touch this thread but you asked lol
LOL no prob i made a pest spray from liquid soap veggie oil and baking soda and i was removing the leaves but i never destroyed them :( i am figuring thats why they keep coming back, they are outdoor plants at the side of my house they get the same amount of light as my other plants which are doing well, i always dig up the soil but i find its very sandy and not clay like ( i live close to the beach) and i don't have a lot of space to work with can't really just grow it where everyone can see it if you know what i mean so not sure about the closeness and did i do something wrong to put them into flowering?
 

malco1987

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"autos" are automatic flowering plants. they dont rely on the photoperiod to begin flower production.

autos will go from vegetative growth to flowering without changing the length of the light exposure which happens with the changing of the seasons outdoors or by altering the timing of your lights indoors.

non-auto cannabis plants will grow foliage with no flowers for years if they get more than 16 hours of light a day.

once you set the lights to 12 hours of light and 12 of darkness, then the flower buds appear.

feminized seeds are just seeds which have been treated to produce few if any male plants, increasing your odds of buds per seed, and reducing the chances of pollination by an errant male.
OHHH makes more sense.... no lie though my plants get tops 2 hours of direct sunlight before the wall blocks it out... so you are saying that i more than likely have auto's seeing that they are only 8 weeks old and they are in flowering?
 

Da Mann

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Umm last time i checked... i just decided to do some research cause i have been doing what friends told me since i started... everyone has to start somewhere bro and i learn from my mistakes
You can never tell around here. You have a Auto-Flower. It is flowering. I would ask around here for help. Drop the Buddys. Those should be 2 feet tall. You night get a couple of J's off them. But finish growing them and see how you do.
 

Bugeye

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It does look like your soil structure is on the clay side so amending it for next grow with compost would help, perlite too if you have it. The organic stuff you added sounds like some good ingredients but I have to wonder if it composted enough for max benefit. I say that because the red stems are a good candidate for potassium deficiency, which those bananas should have supplied. Putting some green leaves on top of your soil will put nitrogen back but I think the soil structure is your real issue. If the roots can't move easily and have good oxygen supplied to them via aeration, they just won't produce, and your top side won't produce either.

You might want to hang out in the organics section and pick up more pointers on getting your soil prepared well.
 

gR33nDav3l0l

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Plants might be suffering mite or worm damage, I've seen those brown runs on leaves before, definitely bug damage.
 

malco1987

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You can never tell around here. You have a Auto-Flower. It is flowering. I would ask around here for help. Drop the Buddys. Those should be 2 feet tall. You night get a couple of J's off them. But finish growing them and see how you do.
Will do bro thanks for the info

It does look like your soil structure is on the clay side so amending it for next grow with compost would help, perlite too if you have it. The organic stuff you added sounds like some good ingredients but I have to wonder if it composted enough for max benefit. I say that because the red stems are a good candidate for potassium deficiency, which those bananas should have supplied. Putting some green leaves on top of your soil will put nitrogen back but I think the soil structure is your real issue. If the roots can't move easily and have good oxygen supplied to them via aeration, they just won't produce, and your top side won't produce either.

You might want to hang out in the organics section and pick up more pointers on getting your soil prepared well.
green leaves huh never saw that anywhere will def try that thanks man, i already have a 5gallon pot and a bag of some potting soil and i have some more young ones that i got from some high grade baggies on the way but i dont wanna put any crappy auto's in my pot so waiting for a good strain
 

malco1987

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Plants might be suffering mite or worm damage, I've seen those brown runs on leaves before, definitely bug damage.
They are suffering from white flies and leaf miners i haven't been destroying the infected leaves just picking them off and throwing them on the ground, this will be amended as soon as i get home
 
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