Cloning a clone of a clone?

[EverythingsHazy]

100% fine.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

Thanks for everyone's input. Just thought id share the two New mothers i will be cloning tomorrow! It will be two on left in the pic. Lemon Skunk this will be Third generation Once i take clones. O yeah back left is Purple Paralysis , Front left is strawberry HAze.

 

[scarecrow77]

Ive always thought(not sure why) Cloning a 2nd generation Plant will cause hermies/ stress, basically bad news?Is there any truth to this.
Mother>Clone>Clone>?this generation?
I want to Keep my lemon skunk as its one of My favorite strains but have no more seeds.

The only way I know to fuck up cloning clones and so on ....is if you take clones from a plant that was revegged ....the clones will have a loss in potency and if you clone that clone it will have a further loss in potency and so on.....but I hear growers all the time cloning clones for years with no problems....

 

[scarecrow77]

Forgot to mention take your clones in veg if you plan on cloning that clone and so on .....I think taking them in flower will defo fuck with them after a few grows....it's ok taking them in flower if you do not plan on cloning them just flowering them out.....if you want to hold genetics from a clone always take them when in vegg...

 

[burgertime2010]

The only way I know to fuck up cloning clones and so on ....is if you take clones from a plant that was revegged ....the clones will have a loss in potency and if you clone that clone it will have a further loss in potency and so on.....but I hear growers all the time cloning clones for years with no problems....

I just took clones from plants that were a week into flowering. It definitely took longer than usual to root and take off into veg....is this a problem? The shape of them are much thicker and bushy than the plants I got them from. If there is no potency loss it seems like a way to improve the pheno. It was a long process, but the strain was sick...it has potency to spare. Have you heard of anyone doing this to get fat mothers from stringy strains?

 

[jason1976]

clone:an exact replica of a donating sample. meaning clones are supposed to be just like their "parent" ive cloned clones of clones that were cloned.. lol and have been for years.

 

[scarecrow77]

I just took clones from plants that were a week into flowering. It definitely took longer than usual to root and take off into veg....is this a problem? The shape of them are much thicker and bushy than the plants I got them from. If there is no potency loss it seems like a way to improve the pheno. It was a long process, but the strain was sick...it has potency to spare. Have you heard of anyone doing this to get fat mothers from stringy strains?

ya growers take clones in flower to get nice big plants .....what I was saying is if the plant you took the clones from was revegged after being flowered the clones will have a loss in potency and the clones from that clone and so on ...your grand the way your doing it..on less there revegged plants u took them from....hope this helps

 

[scarecrow77]

clone:an exact replica of a donating sample. meaning clones are supposed to be just like their "parent" ive cloned clones of clones that were cloned.. lol and have been for years.

Not from revegged plants you didn't or you be smoking shit for weed by now...

 

[bird mcbride]

I start all my seedlings in 12/12 1kw hps. I take snips from each one before the males start to show. These snips , after they are sorted out will become mothers. One mom per strain.

 

[bird mcbride]

Regardless of what anyone says keep the mom(s) on 24/0d daylight tubes,80-360 watts.

 

[burgertime2010]

ya growers take clones in flower to get nice big plants .....what I was saying is if the plant you took the clones from was revegged after being flowered the clones will have a loss in potency and the clones from that clone and so on ...your grand the way your doing it..on less there revegged plants u took them from....hope this helps

So, this is good news....I can definitely see this being useful. Clones in flower. Nice.

 

[GroErr]

So, this is good news....I can definitely see this being useful. Clones in flower. Nice.

I like these clones from flower but I wouldn't clone those clones. So far I've only used them in a separate tent 12/12 from rooting. They take a little longer to root and initially the foliage is mutant-like (e.g. on my last one's the leaves had no serrated edges) but they produce fine. It's a good backup too, if you took clones thinking the plant was female (or before it showed sex) and it turned out to be a male, you just lost a bunch of clones. To make it up take some clones from your flowering fem(s) to make up for the loss.

 

[burgertime2010]

I like these clones from flower but I wouldn't clone those clones. So far I've only used them in a separate tent 12/12 from rooting. They take a little longer to root and initially the foliage is mutant-like (e.g. on my last one's the leaves had no serrated edges) but they produce fine. It's a good backup too, if you took clones thinking the plant was female (or before it showed sex) and it turned out to be a male, you just lost a bunch of clones. To make it up take some clones from your flowering fem(s) to make up for the loss.

I am seeing the non serration and everything else you describe. If they become fat healthy veggies with a shorter inter-nodal spacing than what is keeping me from mothering it out? I understand they go through a rough beginning but eventually there is a plant structure that I want replicated. Why not?

 

[colonuggs]

ok here's my 123th clone of a clone of a clone......same strain, never mothered.

clones takin @ flower onset... 5 times a year.... for over 20 yrs

Have over 10 ELITE strains that I have kept for the last 8-10 years cloning. Clone of a clone of a clone of a.......




reveging your flowered plants... is a great way to save your cut of the strain... if your clones don't make it

 

[GroErr]

I am seeing the non serration and everything else you describe. If they become fat healthy veggies with a shorter inter-nodal spacing than what is keeping me from mothering it out? I understand they go through a rough beginning but eventually there is a plant structure that I want replicated. Why not?

They could be fine, I have no doubt you can successfully clone them. But I haven't cloned any of those to tell first-hand whether there's any effects on potency or yield, mainly because I haven't been in a situation where I had to. I have a couple coming up that are just rooting and will probably take some clones off those when they grow up and see how the clones behave. What I do know is that there are a lot of people that take these clones off flowering plants, so someone has likely cloned those type of clones and may have some first hand experience to share.

 

[GroErr]

ok here's my 123th clone of a clone of a clone......same strain, never mothered.

clones takes @ flower onset 5 times a year for over 20 yrs

When you say at onset, how far after 12/12 flip? The one's I've taken have typically been week 2-3 after the flip. I'm liking the little mutant's. Haven't grown any out into full size plants (pretty well straight to 12/12 after rooting) but I have one Jack The Ripper right now outdoor that was looking like it was going to die off. It just really started growing again about a week ago and is now shooting out normal nodes/leaves. It's looking like it's going to have crazy amounts of nodes and growing fast now. This thing was 1/3 of its current size a week ago... You can still see some of the darker/mutant leaves towards the centre and bottom.

 

[colonuggs]

Normally, I take them within the first 3 days of flipin...if not you'll send them into a shock when rooted in clone form..... they start throwin off 1 leafers for a few.... then back into veg

That nice green plant you growin there will produce just like the plant before....take some clones

 

[GroErr]

Normally, I take them within the first 3 days of flipin...if not you'll send them into a shock when rooted in clone form..... they start throwin off 1 leafers for a few.... then back into veg

That nice green plant you growin there will produce just like the plant before....take some clones

Thanks, it's looking nice now, will be small as it will likely start pre-flowering in a week or two where I am. But whatever, if it produces even an ounce it's getting free light and water, no complaints. Wouldn't clone this one as my outdoor season is short and I never bring anything from outside into my indoor grow room. No problem though, I have 3 more directly behind it in 7gal pots that are now taking a 3'W x 6'L x 3'H' footprint after 8 weeks outside, those will produce some nice bud

 

[Mr.GreenJeans]

There should be no problem with repetitive cloning. I've been growing 1 strain from a single seed for over 4 years now (33+ cycles!) with no problems at all and no reduction in yield or potency. I just cut my clones about 1 week before I switch to the flowering phase on a grow/cycle (I run dual grow rooms so it's in a modified perpetual cycle and I have a harvest every 5 or 6 weeks).

Clone away!!! If you start getting hermies or reduced yields/potency it's NOT because of cloning repetitively!

 

[qwizoking]

If you don't think genetics change you don't know anything about genetics...