Should the US support Israel forever ?

[Doer]

again what Muslim nation did you visited or lived to ask

Don't be retarded. Muslims are everywhere. It is the second largest war cult.

 

[earnest_voice]

Don't be retarded. Muslims are everywhere. It is the second largest war cult.

One could be in your house right now...

 

[NLXSK1]

What is shameful is your ignorance of the subject.

There is a point past which it's not about how much value your activities add to the economy, but rather how much your activities influence the rest of the economy, and how.

I submit based on overwhelming economic evidence from academia, business, history and many other sources, that economic monarchism is as bad or worse than the old hereditary kind.

But then, maybe you like being poor and unsure if you can afford to give your children an education or a shot at the good life.

That's what they've taken- our prosperity. Then, with an amazing interlocking network of back doors and mutual favors, they deal themselves tax breaks the rest of us don't get, pass legislation to allow corporations to shower our political process with money- so only the rich can play... or get what they need from the process.

You can have that America; I'm not interested.

It is the politicians gaining power through legislation that makes them a target of manipulation by business by the governments intrusion upon said business. Once that occurs competitive business must use lobbiests to promote legislation that gives their business an edge. Businesses that try to stay out of politics are dragged in by anti-trust investigations like occured at Microsoft until they became a huge political donor. It wasnt out of the goodness of their hearts, it was out of extortion by the government to pay to play. Many other businesses have been targeted the same way.

People keep screaming that we need to remove the money when it is the power we need to remove from the government. If there was a flat 10% tax on people then business would not need lobbiests for tax manipulation, etc.

What people do not realize is somewhere along the way the government stopped taking care of the people and began taking care of itself. It is likely a terminal condition. The founders knew this would happen and wrote about it.

 

[Doer]

No. Impossible. I am not a Muslim. But, just go across the steet.

You however, are too wimpy to even ask.

And if you ask you will just take their tap dance for an answer.

But, if you gently persist you will see, they cannot Blaspheme and reject violent Jihad.

 

[Doer]

It is the politicians gaining power through legislation that makes them a target of manipulation by business by the governments intrusion upon said business. Once that occurs competitive business must use lobbiests to promote legislation that gives their business an edge. Businesses that try to stay out of politics are dragged in by anti-trust investigations like occured at Microsoft until they became a huge political donor. It wasnt out of the goodness of their hearts, it was out of extortion by the government to pay to play. Many other businesses have been targeted the same way.

People keep screaming that we need to remove the money when it is the power we need to remove from the government. If there was a flat 10% tax on people then business would not need lobbiests for tax manipulation, etc.

What people do not realize is somewhere along the way the government stopped taking care of the people and began taking care of itself. It is likely a terminal condition. The founders knew this would happen and wrote about it.

The govt is Defense of the Nation and decision making about that. It will preserve itself. We want that.

 

[earnest_voice]

It is the politicians gaining power through legislation that makes them a target of manipulation by business by the governments intrusion upon said business. Once that occurs competitive business must use lobbiests to promote legislation that gives their business an edge. Businesses that try to stay out of politics are dragged in by anti-trust investigations like occured at Microsoft until they became a huge political donor. It wasnt out of the goodness of their hearts, it was out of extortion by the government to pay to play. Many other businesses have been targeted the same way.

People keep screaming that we need to remove the money when it is the power we need to remove from the government. If there was a flat 10% tax on people then business would not need lobbiests for tax manipulation, etc.

What people do not realize is somewhere along the way the government stopped taking care of the people and began taking care of itself. It is likely a terminal condition. The founders knew this would happen and wrote about it.

Microsoft was playing dirty and FORCING vendors to use their products through economic coercion - what they did wasn't limited to the US.

 

[nontheist]

again what Muslim nation did you visited or lived to ask

If you would be so kind to list the peaceful Islamic nations you would like one to visit.

 

[londonfog]

Don't be retarded. Muslims are everywhere. It is the second largest war cult.

silly clueless person. You do realize Muslim can have a different sects depending on the area in which they live.

 

[earnest_voice]

No. Impossible. I am not a Muslim. But, just go across the steet.

Don't have to go across the street, i can go next door and ask my Muslim neighbour while we smoke a couple of bowls, which always comes with the offer of a jack 'n' coke. I even trust him to come into my house and feed the dogs when i'm away for work

 

[nontheist]

silly clueless person. You do realize Muslim can have a different sects depending on the area in which they live.

Islam is the second largest religion, you call someone clueless while denying that?

 

[londonfog]

No. Impossible. I am not a Muslim. But, just go across the steet.

You however, are too wimpy to even ask.

And if you ask you will just take their tap dance for an answer.

But, if you gently persist you will see, they cannot Blaspheme and reject violent Jihad.

again not all Muslim believe in Jihad being violent

 

[nontheist]

Don't have to go across the street, i can go next door and ask my Muslim neighbour while we smoke a couple of bowls, which always comes with the offer of a jack 'n' coke. I even trust him to come into my house and feed the dogs when i'm away for work

A Muslim following the teaching of the Quran doesn’t drink.

 

[earnest_voice]

A Muslim following the teaching of the Koran doesn’t drink.

Yeah those aren't hard and fast rules for some. Just like Christians or Catholics who use contraception...

 

[nontheist]

again not all Muslim believe in Jihad being violent

Fair enough lets talk numbers Is the percentages higher for extremism than other religions?

 

[nontheist]

Yeah those aren't hard and fast rules for some. Just like Christians or Catholics who use contraception...

Yeah that doesn’t make sense on either side, it is the rules some people choose not to follow but you wont hear that shit being spewed at the alter.

 

[Doer]

again not all Muslim believe in Jihad being violent

Again you don't know that. You have never asked so stop pretending, how about?

 

[Doer]

Don't have to go across the street, i can go next door and ask my Muslim neighbour while we smoke a couple of bowls, which always comes with the offer of a jack 'n' coke. I even trust him to come into my house and feed the dogs when i'm away for work

Ask him. If he is practicing Muslim......of course.

It has nothing to do with individual trust. Generations are called to befriend the Infidel.
That is the Inner Jihad conquest. It is to pull the wool, so to speak.

There is even a name for that. Dr. Keyes knows it. I forgot.

 

[londonfog]

Again you don't know that. You have never asked so stop pretending, how about.

Doer I usually respect and like your post even when we disagree, but do stop pretending like you know what I have done.
I'm not taking sides with any religion, or practice. I do believe in being truthful when you speak.
When you say all Jihad is violence you are incorrect.

 

[nontheist]

Ask him. If he is practicing Muslim......of course.

obliviously he's not, no need to ask

The thirteenth among the Greater Sins is drinking liquor. Its seriousness is proved from the traditions that have been related from Imam Musa al-Kadhim (a.s.), Imam Riďa (a.s.) and Imam Muhammad al Taqi (a.s.).

The Holy Qur’an also states in unequivocal words that it is a Greater Sin.

 

[earnest_voice]

And why do you think my experiences in Jakarta or Koala Lumpur are any different than the Afgan community in Fremont, CA.

What the fuck does this "Muslim country" side show have to do with me interviewing Muslims, gently about this where ever in the world I travel?

They act peaceful and say the world will be more peaceful when there is only Islam.

Even my Pastun friend at FBI will say that.

http://www.dhra.mil/perserec/osg/terrorism/jihadist-terrorist-threat.htm

American laws protecting freedom of speech allow all persons in the United States to express these and other unpopular, anti-government beliefs. The law is violated only when one acts on these beliefs in a manner that violates the law.

Any expression of support for the basic tenets of militant jihadism is, however, grounds for denial or revocation of a U.S. Government security clearance or any other position of trust with access to sensitive information or facilities. Federal government employees and contractors are not required to agree with U.S. Government policies. They are required, however, to accept the basic legitimacy of federal, state and local governments and their constitutional authority to make and enforce laws. Jihadi extremists reject all man-made laws and seek to replace them with Shariah, the sacred law of Islam.

Ask him. If he is practicing Muslim......of course.

It has nothing to do with individual trust. Generations are called to befriend the Infidel.
That is the Inner Jihad conquest. It is to pull the wool, so to speak.

There is even a name for that. Dr. Keyes knows it. I forgot.

There is a name for it but it is limited in its definition and thus not applicable to my friendship with my neighbour.