Should the US support Israel forever ?

Should the US support Israel, no matter what?

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Doer

Doer

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UncleBuck said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Mall_shooting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clackamas_Town_Center_shooting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westroads_Mall_shooting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mall_in_Columbia#2014_shooting




are you familiar with american history?
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You are going to say these mall shooting are GeeHaw inspired?

All these were to spread Christianity?

You try to say there is a world wide group bent on terrorizing the world to be Christian? These day???

What a loser, you are.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Doer said:
Christianity has not been about Conquest of the Earth, ever.
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Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.



this one is right up your alley, doer.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Doer said:
You can only claim that is false. You belive it is.

Muslims say it is not.

And I didn't say, Jihad means violent, wrong-bong. You said that.

I said it means Conquest of all other religions and subjugation of all people on the Earth under Islam, and it does.

Christianity does not. Christianity is a sneaky, double subtle, turn the other cheek when they really mean, be-two-faced, type of thing. Christianity has not been about Conquest of the Earth, ever.
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OMG guy Jihad is a duty. It basically tells you to preserve the Isamic way of life. That could be in the way you live your life (inner). It also could mean to defend yourself when facing aggression. It's not a conquest.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Doer said:
OMG....that is what they want you to swallow, for sure.
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You do realize the only way you would know for sure would to be or had been Muslim.
again read the Qur'an that would give you a better understanding of Islam... also have a conversation with a few Imam instead of walking around asking randoms
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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NLXSK1 said:
It is the politicians gaining power through legislation that makes them a target of manipulation by business by the governments intrusion upon said business. Once that occurs competitive business must use lobbiests to promote legislation that gives their business an edge. Businesses that try to stay out of politics are dragged in by anti-trust investigations like occured at Microsoft until they became a huge political donor. It wasnt out of the goodness of their hearts, it was out of extortion by the government to pay to play. Many other businesses have been targeted the same way.

People keep screaming that we need to remove the money when it is the power we need to remove from the government. If there was a flat 10% tax on people then business would not need lobbiests for tax manipulation, etc.

What people do not realize is somewhere along the way the government stopped taking care of the people and began taking care of itself. It is likely a terminal condition. The founders knew this would happen and wrote about it.
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I like your assessment, it unfortunately does not accurately describe the situation on the ground.

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

This professor has a good handle on how things currently are in this country, and why.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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If you knew me you would already know I'm agnostic, I did have to travel a few roads, mountains, and trails to get this point in life.
 
ASMALLVOICE

ASMALLVOICE

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imho,
I am not against a hand up, but I am totally against a hand out. I would have no issue at all with helping any one or a nation of any ones, so long as the home front is taken care of, and quite frankly, we (US) are not without serious issues of our own, that with what monies have been HANDED OUT, would have more than long succeeded in eliminating issues on the home front.
Tis easier to help someone, when you are of in need of no help yourself.

Peace

Asmallvoice
 
Silky Shagsalot

Silky Shagsalot

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i've read here at riu many times of folks being atheist/agnostic etc. but when you're hanging off of a cliff, facing certain death, i wonder how many of them wouldn't/won't/don't cry out for the Lord's help...
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Silky Shagsalot said:
i've read here at riu many times of folks being atheist/agnostic etc. but when you're hanging off of a cliff, facing certain death, i wonder how many of them wouldn't/won't/don't cry out for the Lord's help...
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Hanging off a cliff- I'm saying "oh shit"
Facing certain death- Yelling "What the fuck"
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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ttystikk said:
I like your assessment, it unfortunately does not accurately describe the situation on the ground.

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

This professor has a good handle on how things currently are in this country, and why.
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Wealth distribution is irrelevant since you can literally create wealth. It is people who cannot grasp the growing pie theory that have economic envy.

The key to wealth is owning your own business.
 
earnest_voice

earnest_voice

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Doer said:
You can only claim that is false. You belive it is.

Muslims say it is not.

And I didn't say, Jihad means violent, wrong-bong. You said that.

I said it means Conquest of all other religions and subjugation of all people on the Earth under Islam, and it does.

Christianity does not. Christianity is a sneaky, double subtle, turn the other cheek when they really mean, be-two-faced, type of thing. Christianity has not been about Conquest of the Earth, ever.
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You didn't need to, I clarified the context of this discussion earlier, we most certainly were talking about militant jihadism - it was you who could not differentiate between muslim and militant. Don't try and change the goal posts now, youre worried about something you DO NOT UNDERSTAND - People fear what they don't understand.

RE: Christians and Conquest = the crusades.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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earnest_voice said:
You didn't need to, I clarified the context of this discussion earlier, we most certainly were talking about militant jihadism - it was you who could not differentiate between muslim and militant. Don't try and change the goal posts now, youre worried about something you DO NOT UNDERSTAND - People fear what they don't understand.

RE: Christians and Conquest = the crusades.
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This is politics. Changing the goal posts is an olympic sport over here :]
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Fuck Islam, fuck the Jews, both of which are doing their part to fuck humanity right now as I type, along with the believers in Christ. Let's all wait to see who wins, and do nothing, as far as being enlightened by observing this shit for around 2000 years now. I am an asshole, granted, to believe that somehow HUMANITY will come to their senses and figure out the idea of a God, was only meant to create hostility between tribes. Peace has never been a policy with religion, as all have meant to subvert. This world, with it's religions killing each other, deserves extinction, which with we seem to be well along the path to fruition, apparently as God intended.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Jimdamick said:
Fuck Islam, fuck the Jews, both of which are doing their part to fuck humanity right now as I type, along with the believers in Christ. Let's all wait to see who wins, and do nothing, as far as being enlightened by observing this shit for around 2000 years now. I am an asshole, granted, to believe that somehow HUMANITY will come to their senses and figure out the idea of a God, was only meant to create hostility between tribes. Peace has never been a policy with religion, as all have meant to subvert. This world, with it's religions killing each other, deserves extinction, which with we seem to be well along the path to fruition, apparently as God intended.
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Pissed on Southern Tier 2xStout then when I made that comment, actually also now( excellent brewery). I sort of apologize for the diatribe, but I still say there is no fucking thing as a God, at least a benevolent one. Peace out
 
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