Anyone NOT a fan of BHO

green_machine_two9er

green_machine_two9er

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BDOGKush said:
I'm very new to the concentrate side of marijuana. I first started using dry ice to get kief when i started growing and didn't know about BHO. My next harvests I have had my trim run for some BHO (I didn't do it myself), its potent stuff, it taste good but I cough uncontrollably when I dab it, which is odd considering I'm a bong only guy and take huge chalked up bong rips without coughing but a little dab of BHO and I'm in a coughing fit. I thought it was supposed to be cleaner? I've never had bubble hash but I really want to try it, just don't have the cash to drop on the bags right now.
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Sometimes i think the more intense rush/high from bho is just lack of oxygen....

Bags are well worth the investment, you dont need the 8 bags set either, i just run 3 bags, 220 to mix and catch in, 110 for high grade trichs, 70. i just got a new set on amazon for 35 $ not so bad when 1 bottle a vector can be 15$.

Cleaner than what? maybe cleaner than butane for filling lighters yeah, but compared to alcohol No, and plain water, ??
 
BDOGKush

BDOGKush

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green_machine_two9er said:
Sometimes i think the more intense rush/high from bho is just lack of oxygen....

Bags are well worth the investment, you dont need the 8 bags set either, i just run 3 bags, 220 to mix and catch in, 110 for high grade trichs, 70. i just got a new set on amazon for 35 $ not so bad when 1 bottle a vector can be 15$.

Cleaner than what? maybe cleaner than butane for filling lighters yeah, but compared to alcohol No, and plain water, ??
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I wasn't sure if the cheaper knock off bubble bags were a good investment vs the actual name brand ones.

Cleaner than smoking plain flowers but my lungs say otherwise.
 
Squidbilly

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green_machine_two9er said:
Been on a IWE kick for a year and LOVE the FM bubble hash. I used to be a huge BHO guy, but over time my body was screaming that something is not right! even with Dispensory bought product would still get headaches, Iron lung, uncontrollable coughing. which got worse over time.
I don't think "medicine" should cause any of these side efects, Even if it very potent.



My personal experience is i can get JUST as potent product (which I dab, or just smoke) from ICe water extractions

Anyone Else feel the Same? Different? want to hear everyone's thoughts here at RIU.
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I share the same exact feeling. I am always talking sh@t on BHO, lol...and people always give me grief for it. I also notice that I dont' get the same medical benefits from BHO and if I'm only smoking that for a few days I bet fatigued, and 'blue'. As soon as I smoke some really good flower I feel so much better :) I think solvent extracts destroy or alter some of the terpenes, which are very important to the overall high. Good oil smells great, but nothing like really good flower. That's my theory anyway, lol. Terpenes are very important, two strains can have the same exact cannabinoid profile but varry in effects greatly because of the terpenes.
 
BDOGKush

BDOGKush

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green_machine_two9er said:
I find nice cured buds the easiest on my lungs
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So same experience as me, BHO harder on lungs than cured flower. I've been told the coughing fit is from the high THC percentage and the smoke "expanding" in your lungs. I don't know about that, seems like a result of residual butane to me. I'd much rather have a pure water extracted hash than anything extracted with butane or iso.
 
green_machine_two9er

green_machine_two9er

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Squidbilly said:
I share the same exact feeling. I am always talking sh@t on BHO, lol...and people always give me grief for it. I also notice that I dont' get the same medical benefits from BHO and if I'm only smoking that for a few days I bet fatigued, and 'blue'. As soon as I smoke some really good flower I feel so much better :) I think solvent extracts destroy or alter some of the terpenes, which are very important to the overall high. Good oil smells great, but nothing like really good flower. That's my theory anyway, lol. Terpenes are very important, two strains can have the same exact cannabinoid profile but varry in effects greatly because of the terpenes.
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I almost didn't want to post this thread to due all the argument ive gotten in with people who will hear no other side of it. And sometimes almost been belittled because im against it. lol glad to have some like minded people here.
 
burnseedless

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BHO is best in edibles i feel... Its good to dab once in a while but i feel it has become a fashion thing ppl act like bho is something new i think i took my first dab of BHO like 10-11 years ago lol now its back on the seen i still love my bubble tho..
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Hash oil is much cleaner. It can be ran through a micron syringe removing any mold spores bacteria dust etc.
Butane itself is dirty, simply because its distilled leaving small amounts of higher alkanes and such, the "mystery oil" not saying this is a big deal... butane is also highly lipophillic loving to extract harsh fats and waxes that give bho its characteristic look feel and smoke. Cbd and other "medicinal" compounds are extracted in lower ratios being more polar than thc.
The flavorful compounds alcohols etc, interestingly enough are highly soluble in another alcohol lol. So an iso or ethanol extract will have much higher amounts as well as extracting the full range of compounds.
Bho is cheap and gives the highest yield, it is by far not the best method unless your commercial trying to profit (dispensaries) winterizing will drop some of the heavier waxes but a large portion of lighter fats will remain. A good extract smells many times stronger than bud being that it is literally cannabis "essential oils" like any fragrance extraction.. unless you heat and vac it forever like many do.
Nothing wrong with sievedpproducts but with oil we can remove all impurities including the waxy coating of the trichrome, iwe etc will never truly equal hash oil made properly. Seeing as most don't know how I completely understand how someone could arrive at these conclusions
 
green_machine_two9er

green_machine_two9er

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qwizoking said:
Hash oil is much cleaner. It can be ran through a micron syringe removing any mold spores bacteria dust etc.
Butane itself is dirty, simply because its distilled leaving small amounts of higher alkanes and such, the "mystery oil" not saying this is a big deal... butane is also highly lipophillic loving to extract harsh fats and waxes that give bho its characteristic look feel and smoke. Cbd and other "medicinal" compounds are extracted in lower ratios being more polar than thc.
The flavorful compounds alcohols etc, interestingly enough are highly soluble in another alcohol lol. So an iso or ethanol extract will have much higher amounts as well as extracting the full range of compounds.
Bho is cheap and gives the highest yield, it is by far not the best method unless your commercial trying to profit (dispensaries) winterizing will drop some of the heavier waxes but a large portion of lighter fats will remain. A good extract smells many times stronger than bud being that it is literally cannabis "essential oils" like any fragrance extraction.. unless you heat and vac it forever like many do.
Nothing wrong with sievedpproducts but with oil we can remove all impurities including the waxy coating of the trichrome, iwe etc will never truly equal hash oil made properly. Seeing as most don't know how I completely understand how someone could arrive at these conclusions
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how does one go about making hash oil?
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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green_machine_two9er said:
Been on a IWE kick for a year and LOVE the FM bubble hash. I used to be a huge BHO guy, but over time my body was screaming that something is not right! even with Dispensory bought product would still get headaches, Iron lung, uncontrollable coughing. which got worse over time.
I don't think "medicine" should cause any of these side efects, Even if it very potent.



My personal experience is i can get JUST as potent product (which I dab, or just smoke) from ICe water extractions

Anyone Else feel the Same? Different? want to hear everyone's thoughts here at RIU.
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Meh. Not really a fan of BHO, but he's a fuck of a lot better than GWB :dunce:
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Hash oil is really just semantics.
A certain Frenchman throws a fit if bho qwet qwiso co2 etc products are called hash.. though all are hash by definition

Its not actually oil or runny..
THC CBD CBN etc are a solid at double room temp. The lighter terpenes and such will give a gooey nature
 
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gb123

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anytime you use a solvent it's hard to purge. Simple really.
Water hash done correctly, is as pure as you can get. Without the worry of residual solvents.
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Worry about residuals?
Why? What are you worried about? Do you drink alcohol? Maybe you don't idk, I do assume you breathe in the air around us however....?

Its actually not hard at all to purge. Except bho
But that's beside the point

Personally I prefer dry sieve over water
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Of specifically Iso/n butane and propellants such as propane? Yes
I already mentioned the problems with tane

It (bho) has a high iodine value making purging difficult. as well as that aforementioned "mystery oil" consisting of heavier crap
 
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