Why grow autos?

[Dr. Who]

I don't like auto's.
I've tried a few and find them as fussy as hell. That was few years back.....
With that said,,,look at "weeds". They look great (nice job weeds)!
I don't as a rule answer auto or cfl questions. That's my "choice". But by all means, try them if you want to.

 

[cc2012]

IDK? I think Autos have come on leaps and bounds, Though My KC45 Auto (Regs) have been a pain in the Arse!! I'm going to Germinate the 5 remaining seeds from the pack when others have finished, Which will be Gods Knows when??? Been in the Dirt for WAAAAAY to long!! but they are flower now..These Autos can Grow up to 7' and can Yield a very large Crop from what I've read(Time will Tell with Mine) The Herbies Blurb states ~

KC Brains KC45 Seeds Specs

Type: Ruderalis/Sativa Hybrid
Yield: Heavy to Extra Heavy
Flowering Time Required: between 55 and 71 days;
Cross: Russian Ruderalis x Brazilian Sativa

KC Brains KC45 Seeds Info

The KC 45 strain of medical marijuana is a unique hybridization between Ruderalis and Sativa strains. Specifically, Russian Ruderalis is crossed with Brazilian Sativa. Cannabis Ruderalis is a subspecies, like Indica and Sativa, that is unique to Russia. Ruderalis strains are known to "autoflower", meaning they automatically begin flowering when they reach a certain age as predetermined by genetics. In other words, Ruderalis strains of cannabis do not begin flowering based on the number of light hours per day as do Indica and Sativa strains. KC 45 is such a naturally strong performer that she will even grow big, sticky, aromatic bud colas even in cloudy, nearly-sunless locales.
The Brazilian Sativa in KC 45 ensures that she packs a crisp, lucid head high to go along with her otherwise Indica-like buzz. Although she grows much better outdoors, KC 45 cannabis can also be grown under HID and LED lights. However, she is better outdoors as she tends to grow into a Christmas tree-shaped plant as tall as 7 feet. Regular reports of 3-pound+ yields, per outdoor plant harvested, are reported. Bud colas commonly measure up to a meter-long! The colas themselves are not very tight, but are compact. Individual buds are Sativa-slim and loaded with strong scents of lemon, especially when touched, ground or cut into.

The uplifting high of the KC 45 marijuana strain will hit you like a locomotive when you intelligently toke her. The Ruderalis acts to mellow the buzz a bit, making you feel less hyper than a straight-Sativa strain would. So, you end up calm, yet enlivened; pain-free and energetic too!

Edit: Now that I have grown these and experienced the strange traits for myself, I think these would produce Awesome Yields, BUT! you do have to monitor them, which I didn't I just believed they would Auto Flower at the right point, which they didn't and I had to Force em to Flower...12/12...as soon as I was 100% sure which was Female and which was Male, I ditched the Males and kept the 2 x Females(this was out of 5 x Reg Seeds) This is something I plan on keeping an eye on and acting quicker next time, lets say after 2 months, if NO signs of Flowering then I will Force em again, and hopefully this will control the height issues I've had with em in cupboard which they've nearly outgrown!! On a Plus Note: they love being SUPERCROPPED and recover very quickly.

For My first time with Autos these have seemed like a BIG pain, but IF they carry on Flowering they way they are...I might be very glad I did them, they are Dirt Cheap as well....

Thinking about getting another pkt of KC45 Auto(Regs) and the Feminized version...just to put to one side for now..

Will Update My Journal on these over the next few days and start(if I haven't) a Journal on My W.O.S. Amnesia Auto(Fem) & W.O.S. Afghan Kush Ryder Auto(Fem)

atb

 

[mr sunshine]

IDK? I think Autos have come on leaps and bounds, Though My KC45 Auto (Regs) have been a pain in the Arse!! I'm going to Germinate the 5 remaining seeds from the pack when others have finished, Which will be Gods Knows when??? Been in the Dirt for WAAAAAY to long!! but they are flower now..These Autos can Grow up to 7' and can Yield a very large Crop from what I've read(Time will Tell with Mine) The Herbies Blurb states ~

KC Brains KC45 Seeds Info

The KC 45 strain of medical marijuana is a unique hybridization between Ruderalis and Sativa strains. Specifically, Russian Ruderalis is crossed with Brazilian Sativa. Cannabis Ruderalis is a subspecies, like Indica and Sativa, that is unique to Russia. Ruderalis strains are known to "autoflower", meaning they automatically begin flowering when they reach a certain age as predetermined by genetics. In other words, Ruderalis strains of cannabis do not begin flowering based on the number of light hours per day as do Indica and Sativa strains. KC 45 is such a naturally strong performer that she will even grow big, sticky, aromatic bud colas even in cloudy, nearly-sunless locales.
The Brazilian Sativa in KC 45 ensures that she packs a crisp, lucid head high to go along with her otherwise Indica-like buzz. Although she grows much better outdoors, KC 45 cannabis can also be grown under HID and LED lights. However, she is better outdoors as she tends to grow into a Christmas tree-shaped plant as tall as 7 feet. Regular reports of 3-pound+ yields, per outdoor plant harvested, are reported. Bud colas commonly measure up to a meter-long! The colas themselves are not very tight, but are compact. Individual buds are Sativa-slim and loaded with strong scents of lemon, especially when touched, ground or cut into.

The uplifting high of the KC 45 marijuana strain will hit you like a locomotive when you intelligently toke her. The Ruderalis acts to mellow the buzz a bit, making you feel less hyper than a straight-Sativa strain would. So, you end up calm, yet enlivened; pain-free and energetic too!

3 lbs plus!! Sounds like bullshittt....

 

[greenlikemoney]

Personally, I think all new growers should grow a feminized auto right beside their photoperiod plants so they get a feel for what a female plant looks like and what the flowering process looks like. For a new grower that is a great education and prep for what is hopefully coming their way. Just my opinion.

 

[cc2012]

Yeah I know that the Yield wont be 3lb, but these are Monsters!! and can take up to 120 days to finish and longer...mine are still going...The Seeds Sites always Big Up the Blurb, everybody knows this, and also the Conditions/Setups that they Breeders will have will vastly better than most if not all home growers...

But these are not some spindle ass Autos they main stalk is way thicker than My Thumb and they take loads of abuse, and even Supercropping don't slow em down...I was pissed with em before because the Auto bit seems maybe a bit dodgy, but once I had flipped em and sexed em, just banged em back on 18/6 no problems...They are curious ones that's for sure, but worth trying out if you have patience and keep an eye on em for not flowering, and if that's the case just intervene and 12/12 em for a week or two...

atb

 

[az2000]

I just believed they would Auto Flower at the right point, which they didn't and I had to Force em to Flower...12/12..

This is like the fellow who said he cloned an auto. If you had to change the light schedule to make it flower, then it wasn't an autoflower. It may be sold as one, but the breeder hasn't competed his work yet. Or, seeds got mixed up.

Longer veg times or the ability to hold a plant as a mother for clones are positive attributes. But, they're not autoflower attributes.

 

[Yodaweed]

Basically people grow auto's because they flower quickly and don't require any maintenance so they are easy to deal with and require hardly any attention. The set backs of autos are they don't have as much THC because they are a cannabis ruteralis plant bred with a cannabis sativa or cannabis indica plant.

 

[cc2012]

This is like the fellow who said he cloned an auto. If you had to change the light schedule to make it flower, then it wasn't an autoflower. It may be sold as one, but the breeder hasn't competed his work yet. Or, seeds got mixed up.

Longer veg times or the ability to hold a plant as a mother for clones are positive attributes. But, they're not autoflower attributes.

Err I don't think its anything like "The Fellow who said he Cloned an Auto" Duh!! IF you read up on the KC45 and indeed some other Autos on the market(Past and Present) while a lot of people have had NO problems with KC45 Autos others have had to flip em to 12/12 and then back to 18/6 or 20/4 or even just 24/0 with no problems whereas IF you do this with a Photo you are just Re-Vegging the plant IF I'm not mistaken PHOTOPERIOD have to remain on 12/12 so the Fact the Mine are on 18/6 in Flower tells me its NOT a Photo Period_ Autos need lots of light, the more hours the better!!

Like I said plenty of Threads where Autos have behaved strangely....

atb

 

[ayr0n]

Basically people grow auto's because they flower quickly and don't require any maintenance so they are easy to deal with and require hardly any attention. The set backs of autos are they don't have as much THC because they are a cannabis ruteralis plant bred with a cannabis sativa or cannabis indica plant.

Some of the autos these days are up there in potency w/ photos...I wouldn't necessarily say they don't require any attention - almost the opposite, because if you screw up w/ an auto and stunt it you don't have the time to correct it in veg like you could with a photo...it is nice not having to worry about the photoperiod at all though or light leaks, etc...

 

[ayr0n]

Some of the autos these days are up there in potency w/ photos...I wouldn't necessarily say they don't require any attention - almost the opposite, because if you screw up w/ an auto and stunt it you don't have the time to correct it in veg like you could with a photo...it is nice not having to worry about the photoperiod at all though or light leaks, etc...

Shit in 1985 thc content averaged at ~3.48% and I don't think ruderalis / indica or ruderalis / sativa crosses were being bred, or at least not as commonly as they are now - so that was primarily photo plants...A lot of autos test higher than 20% now. Some people might say they need more, but IMO if 20% thc content isn't high enough it's time to move to harder drugs or something. That would of been some top notch primo over here back before the medical scene...

 

[cc2012]

I really don't know some peeps still diss Autos, I've grown all types of Beans....Regs and Fems(started with bag seed)...now I'm Trying Autos out....in the beginning their was lots of not so good Autos, that didn't Yield much(in some cases 15g) or they Auto'd too soon and produced nothing...But I think as with everything Time Moves On!! and things get improved...better genetics, better techniques, Technology...blah..blah..blah..

I can't wait for my Baby W.O.S. to start getting Bigger!!

 

[ayr0n]

I really don't know some peeps still diss Autos, I've grown all types of Beans....Regs and Fems(started with bag seed)...now I'm Trying Autos out....in the beginning their was lots of not so good Autos, that didn't Yield much(in some cases 15g) or they Auto'd too soon and produced nothing...But I think as with everything Time Moves On!! and things get improved...better genetics, better techniques, Technology...blah..blah..blah..

I can't wait for my Baby W.O.S. to start getting Bigger!!

Yeah for sure - from what I've read a lot of the early auto strains were unstable n shitty, but they are getting better everyday. The Nirvana Northern Lights Autos used to not 'auto' and got recalled a while back but I'm growing them now and they started throwing out pistols at 20 days from sprout on 22/2 photoperiod.

I'd say autos have improved way too much to count them out

 

[PatchKid]

some autos can be done in like 90-100 days and yield more than a couple of OZs

that and they can be ran in a veg tent and can constantly get a harvest if you do it right

 

[mauricem00]

It equaled my last scrog grow is what normaly do
And yeah my pics suck lolView attachment 3214124 View attachment 3214125 View attachment 3214126
Auto vs scrog same area same light same amount of plants scrog 12 oz auto 13 oz
Scrog was bagseed auto was froma seed shop

using bag seed vs high quality seed from a breeder is not exactly a well controlled experiment. I have tried autos and they have a place if you only have one small grow room however my state only allows three mature plants. using separate veg and flower rooms I can harvest three plant every 8 weeks and I get a much higher yield with photos.I use high quality feminised seeds from herbies and when I did the comparison using high quality seeds (heavyweight fast and vast vs strain hunters money makers) the photos did a better job of keeping the medicine bowl full. each person is in a different situation but with the limit on the number of mature plants I can have photos work better for me.if I only had room for one grow closet and no limit on the number of mature plants I could have then autos might work for a perpetual SOG grow. they have there place just not in my grow room

 

[mauricem00]

My first auto yielded 6.5 oz. The last one I harvested suffered some challenges due to acidic soil. I struggled to keep her going with foliar feeding as I raised the ph of the soil. It did 4 oz.

I like autos for 2 reasons:

1. They move at a faster pace, which keeps things interesting. I get a little bored with photosensitives, waiting, waiting. Autos provide more immediate feedback. Enough so that I don't find myself tapping my foot, getting anxious for things to move on.

2. No "dark" requirement. In other words, I can leave the tent open. I can work on them whenever. I can have a perpetual grow with veg and flower plants side by side (which is what I do in a 2x4 tent, harvesting a plant every 7 weeks.).

I'm seriously considering growing 6 autos in my 4x4 tent after I finish my remaining photosensitive seeds. Harvest a plant every 18 days, add a new seedling.

Downside to autos:

1. Ruderalis must bring some non-high traits to the plant. But, the results of mine have been plenty strong for me and my friends.

2. Lights run 18 hours all the time. Uses more electricity and reduces light lifespan because there's no reduction to 12 hours.

3. Seed bank estimations of time are consistently too short, setting false expectations and perhaps contributing to the perception that autos don't produce much, or aren't potent.

For example, my Northern Storm strain is said to be 65-80 days (9.2-11.4 weeks). I'm havesting at 101-105 days (14.4-15 weeks). I could have switched to pure-water "cleanse" 4-5 weeks earlier, but the buds would have been small and not too sparkly. It's those last 2-3 weeks when the buds get fat and nasty.

There's a lot of good info about autos on autoflower.net.

my photos only take 16 weeks. it sounds like you are only saving 1 to 1 /2 weeks and using a lot more electricity. doesn't sound like much of a difference. I thought autos were genetically programed for a shorter life cycle.how did you keep them alive that long?

 

[althor]

My buddy always runs out before his next batch so a few years ago he started putting his auto freebies in the corner for an inbetween harvest. Some have been pretty potent. But even those that are potent have a buzz type that I personally do not like at all. It is missing something and the buzz doesn't seem to be rounded out at all.

 

[mauricem00]

Yeah I know that the Yield wont be 3lb, but these are Monsters!! and can take up to 120 days to finish and longer...mine are still going...The Seeds Sites always Big Up the Blurb, everybody knows this, and also the Conditions/Setups that they Breeders will have will vastly better than most if not all home growers...

But these are not some spindle ass Autos they main stalk is way thicker than My Thumb and they take loads of abuse, and even Supercropping don't slow em down...I was pissed with em before because the Auto bit seems maybe a bit dodgy, but once I had flipped em and sexed em, just banged em back on 18/6 no problems...They are curious ones that's for sure, but worth trying out if you have patience and keep an eye on em for not flowering, and if that's the case just intervene and 12/12 em for a week or two...

atb

these sound more like photos than autos.17 weeks to finish and have to be forced into flowering. I have heard about this happening before with autos perhaps sometimes that gene remains dormant and you get a photo seed from and auto plant.

 

[az2000]

my photos only take 16 weeks. it sounds like you are only saving 1 to 1 /2 weeks and using a lot more electricity. doesn't sound like much of a difference. I thought autos were genetically programed for a shorter life cycle.how did you keep them alive that long?

I don't do anything special, I just let them do their thing and harvest when there are some amber trics which, for this strain, is just about when it's ready to die. Probably it's last week of life. If I were cash cropping I'd find a faster strain or go photosensitive for efficiency. I'd harvest earlier for turnover. But, I just do it for myself and friends. An extra 2-3 weeks doesn't bother me.

Also, I harvest my photos later than most too. So, comparing my auto timeframe to your photo timeframe probably isn't as representative as comparing to my photo timeframe.

The thing I like the most about autos is the ability to veg/flower in the same tent, no concerns about light leaks during the dark period (because there is no dark period). You can literally take a 4x4 8' tall tent and make it two story with six plants on each level. 12 total plants, harvesting one every week (adding a new seedling). Having plants ripen like that is better for me compared to the boom/bust workload of photos.

You're right about electrical use. You save 6 hours a day for half a photosensitive's life. That's a valid concern (along with consuming the light's lifespan sooner).

 

[tekdc911]

3 lbs plus!! Sounds like bullshittt....

its a semi auto tall and lanky .. they get pretty massive outdoors normal Christmas tree size

 

[mr sunshine]

its a semi auto tall and lanky .. they get pretty massive outdoors normal Christmas tree size

Fuck!!!! Normal Christmas trees!! If that gets wide enough I suppose 3 lbs can be achieved......what's a semi auto? Does it respond to light cycles? Or does it run on time?