Has anyone succeeded making feminized seeds with colloidal silver

[CC Dobbs]

ok now we are gunna get all technical and say how MUCH WEED we grow not even nowing som1 how could u now that u grow more weed then me ?? like all fucktards that think there right we will post somthing then in a hurry we will get all technicalon how much weed they grow to shit they make them selves seen this so much on rollitup people are so predictable

Sir, it is well know in the cannabis industry that you only work in a hydro-store if you can't sell the weed you grow to anybody. This leads to hydro-stores throughout the land being populated by shitty gardeners giving out equally shitty advice, like you do. If you want to impress people don't tell them where you work unless they are still high school.

 

[rob333]

Here is a picture of some of my current grow, feel free to share yours if you have one. You are still an idiot who works in a hydro store for a living and doesn't have a grasp of basic biology or science. And try using spell check, any argument is hard to take seriously when you can't even spell with the help of a computer.


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we gunna start on the pics now lolol

 

[Geronimo420]

We explain how "feminized" seeds are made, why the plants are more likely to turn males, and how to use normal seeds to get a large all-female crop.
By "G" - Thursday, August 21 2008

The idea of “feminized” seeds is heralded as a new wave of breeding enabling you to grow only females, but in reality it is a less reliable and less effective method than simply cloning your favorite plant. Feminizing seeds is nothing new; in fact, it’s done from a process that used to be called “hermaphroditic breeding” or “Breeding with Herman”.

Even a leaf can root!
During the 1970s and ‘80s it was often the case that the seeds you grew came from a bag of good bud. The bud usually had a name, but it was often made up by the local dealer trying to make his stash sound more exotic. In truth, you knew nothing about the parentage of the seeds that your bag contained. Sure, the female was great smoke – but you knew nothing of her size, shape, yield or genetics. The male involved was a total mystery; there was no way you could guess what the genetics of the pollen donor was. These seeds generally resulted in a range of plant genetics, which made one believe that there were a variety of males around when the female was budding.

As is often the case when genetics are mixed, you get failures and successes. More than one great breed was founded on a bag of random seeds. You would plant a hundred or so of the seeds you had, wait to see what Mother Nature – and your local dealer – had handed you, keep your fingers crossed hoping for a super-breed, and watched as some of the seeds came up. A few of the seedlings were sickly and didn’t live long, while others were strong, vigorous, and grew like weeds (pun intended), so you culled the sickly, nourished the healthy, and picked your favorites.

Through this lengthy and detailed process you would end up with a number of healthy young marijuana plants, which would be transplanted into large containers and, after ten to fourteen days, introduced to a budding cycle of 12 hours light and 12 hours dark. This causes the plants to elongate and show their sex, so it was easy to quickly find and kill the males and wait patiently (or impatiently!) for the remaining females to develop buds and ripen. Doing this inside grow rooms and greenhouses was easy and effective, but the seed planting and selection

Fucking incredible, three weeks into floweringprocedure had to be repeated every year, and crops varied from big and dense to small and weak. We also found that after all that trouble of removing males, we sometimes ended up with females that switched sexes when they were stressed, resulting in accidental cross breeding – female plants were pollinated by females that developed male sex organs (hermaphrodites). We decided to grow out those seeds and, to our joy, we discovered that the ratio of females to males was skewed to a greater number of females. This was our discovery of hermaphroditic breeding.

Around the same time we were re-introduced to the method of cloning – I say re-introduced because while it wasn’t a process we had been using, it was a simple gardening technique my grandmother had shown me years before as “making cuttings”. She would cut off a branch of a plant with a sharp knife and stick it into a hormone rooting solution, homemade from pieces of willow tree branches soaked in water. Growers these days buy rooting hormone, but the process is identical.

I had a crop of 20 young plants of various strain backgrounds. We took two clones from each of the plants, and then used the budding light cycle to force the sex to show. Once we identified the male plants (half of them) we killed them and their clones, which still left us with ten large budding females and their 20 clones.

Now we had ten different hybrid genetics in total with two clones from each to work with and choose from. Even though we were making great strides, we wanted a room full of the same breed with the same size and characteristics. Basically, we wanted many copies of one great female plant so made the decision to play “Breeding Hermans”. We took two clones from one female plant, stressed one of the clones until it developed male sex organs, and then bred it with the other female clone. To our delight it worked – we ended up with seeds that grew into females 85-90 percent of the time and were consistent with the original female plant’s characteristics. We could now plant around 30 to 40 seeds and end up with 30 female plants the same size with the same genetics. We were ecstatic.

Placing clones in the soil
However, silver linings often have a cloud attached and it was true in this case. The female plants that developed from hermaphroditic seeds had the drawback of being far more likely than ordinary plants to develop male branches – turn “Herman” – when stressed. More than once, a power, pump or light failure caused enough stress to the plants that they easily went hermaphroditic. Outdoors we had even more trouble; in bad-weather years we could end up with a plant from a feminized seed developing male flowers and blowing pollen all over the other plants, ruining our dreams of a sinsemilla crop. We decided that feminized plants might have a place in our business’ industry, but it wouldn’t be in our gardens.

It was our dream to grow rooms full of females of consistent genetics, and we made our dream come true by going back to cloning. It was so simple that we couldn’t believe that we hadn’t thought of it before. We planted ten normal seeds and nourished them with love and care, but this time we took 25 clones from each plant instead of just two. Then we put the mothers into bud cycle and sexed them; within ten days we identified and killed off the male plants and their clones, and found that we had six large females in bud and around 150 female clones. We continued to bud the mothers as we began to grow our female clones, and finally decided there were two plants that stood out from the crowd – they were bigger, denser, and smelled the best, so we kept their clones and culled the others. We harvested all of the mothers then placed the 50 chosen young marijuana plants into two rooms and switched them to the budding cycle. We had developed a process that made our dream a reality: grow-rooms full of consistent female plants.

Rooted clone being transplanted
It doesn’t take a horticulturist to see that using cloning to procure a room full of female cannabis plants is far more economical than growing “feminized seeds” that easily go hermaphroditic. It is simple to grow numerous female plants with only a few seeds of known genetics. For example, if you get ten seeds from a world-class marijuana breeder/bank, such as Burmese from Vancouver Island Seed Company (VISC), those seeds should become ten

seedlings. At three to four weeks, take ten cuttings from each of the plants, then flip the plants to the bud cycle. Kill males as they show their sex and get rid of their clones, and you should be left with about five large budding females (more or less) and 50 guaranteed female clones of the same pure genetics, without any hermaphroditic tendencies.

So, for the price of ten seeds you end up with dozens of pure female plants, instead of purchasing “feminized” seeds only to get an unstable and unpredictable hermaphroditic breed. You can use regular seeds to grow an all-female crop, and that’s
why we don’t sell feminized seeds.

First you copy paste all this old material (200 from http://www.cannabisculture.com/node/394 second it was already outdated when it was release they base their opinion on seed breeding with naturally occurring hermie pollen. The op is asking about the modern thing made with colloidal silver.

 

[Hilltophigh]

so i came to read this post because was curious about the collided silver for Fem seeds. I just kicked 3 black russians into bud and i am going to use collided silver 30ppm on one and let the other 2 seed out. I bought a 3'x3' grow tent, 6"fan and heap filter to collect the pollen it sucks from inside the tent.. Has anyone actually done this before with the collided silver? I will post photos and results as i go along.

 

[CaretakerDad]

grammar the only defence u have ? nice job

Actually I have science, the grammar thing is a matter of personal standards and pride in my education and experience. I have actually posted tutorials here on RIU detailing the construction of your own aerocloner and.........DRUM ROLL making your own colloidal silver.

BTW I received my first degree in 1988 in Professional Aeronautics at the age of 31 and got the biology/chem in 2008 and have been growing Cannabis steady for nearly twenty years. Besides having internet wars out of your Moms basement with actual growers, what have you done lately hydro boy? Inquiring minds want to know.



^^^^^^ "do u also pick on disalbled people and laugh at old people falling over?" And hydro boy you do know that when the word turns red on your computer you have spelled it wrong, no charge for the tip.

 

[RIKNSTEIN]

Wow, hey guys, chill out and grow up. You're totally off topic, and you totally jacked OPs thread that asked for some knowledge, not a keyboard showdown!

 

[CC Dobbs]

Wow, hey guys, chill out and grow up. You're totally off topic, and you totally jacked OPs thread that asked for some knowledge, not a keyboard showdown!

Sir, this thread has been off topic for a while now. The thread has been 'jacked' in order to shout down an ignorant fuck with stupid advice. It works if, you are looking for an answer.

Messiah

 

[a senile fungus]

I like how rob calls everyone else a keyboard warrior when he's the one acting like a cornered animal.

Its okay to be wrong rob. In the adult world we recognize that we're wrong, we apologize to those that we've offended, and we do it again the right way this time.

Wanna try again?

 

[Flagg420]

i tell u somthing right now being in the hydro shop world for the last 10 years femed seeds are a myth its a plot to get people to buy its just like normal chicken and free range same shit diff name u have the same chance as normal seeds with a higher trait of hermie hope that clears the hole femed seed bullshit up and thats from the breeders mouth not ours

Lol... to think, after 10yrs working at a hydro shop, this guys mentality is "Theres no such thing as feminized seeds, just buy some cloning stuff from my shop, its better!" mmm, capitalism!

Do you moonlight as a D.C. lobbyist too?

Feminized seeds are like condoms bro, over 95% effective.

 

[Thundercat]

I've gotten hermie plants from 2-3 of the 25+ strains I've ran over the last 10 years. Only one of those was from a fem seed, and all of them were stress related I'm sure. Once I picked off the nanners they were gone and didn't come back.

 

[rob333]

Actually I have science, the grammar thing is a matter of personal standards and pride in my education and experience. I have actually posted tutorials here on RIU detailing the construction of your own aerocloner and.........DRUM ROLL making your own colloidal silver.

BTW I received my first degree in 1988 in Professional Aeronautics at the age of 31 and got the biology/chem in 2008 and have been growing Cannabis steady for nearly twenty years. Besides having internet wars out of your Moms basement with actual growers, what have you done lately hydro boy? Inquiring minds want to know.



^^^^^^ "do u also pick on disalbled people and laugh at old people falling over?" And hydro boy you do know that when the word turns red on your computer you have spelled it wrong, no charge for the tip.

i think use have a bad case of the old what we like to call the U.S.A lol after many years of dealing with u cunts we have come to learn that use are pretty thick and a american is never wrong i can kinda see why people fly planes into ur shit also i can see why all the kids over there are so depressed they have to go on school shootings i can go on for days and days

 

[rob333]

i think use have a bad case of the old what we like to call the U.S.A lol after many years of dealing with u cunts we have come to learn that use are pretty thick and a american is never wrong i can kinda see why people fly planes into ur shit also i can see why all the kids over there are so depressed they have to go on school shootings i can go on for days and days

or that use have some black guy running a country so i think ill leave it at that now if u need me ill be over at club 600 growing hydro not some shitty dirt weed that any hillbilly can grow with a bit of sunshine and water

 

[rob333]

Here is a picture of some of my current grow, feel free to share yours if you have one. You are still an idiot who works in a hydro store for a living and doesn't have a grasp of basic biology or science. And try using spell check, any argument is hard to take seriously when you can't even spell with the help of a computer.


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forgot to say btw nice bush weed ya hillbilly

 

[CaretakerDad]

i think use have a bad case of the old what we like to call the U.S.A lol after many years of dealing with u cunts we have come to learn that use are pretty thick and a american is never wrong i can kinda see why people fly planes into ur shit also i can see why all the kids over there are so depressed they have to go on school shootings i can go on for days and days

I have traveled extensively and I am glad to know you do not represent your country or their attitude. Are we arrogant bastards who need to learn manners and something about other cultures? You bet.

However that has nothing to do with science, which is where we started, and arguing botany and chemistry related scientific procedures with you is like discussing physics with my dog, but I like my dog.

 

[coppershot]

i think use have a bad case of the old what we like to call the U.S.A lol after many years of dealing with u cunts we have come to learn that use are pretty thick and a american is never wrong i can kinda see why people fly planes into ur shit also i can see why all the kids over there are so depressed they have to go on school shootings i can go on for days and days

this is so uncalled for, what are you 12?

or that use have some black guy running a country so i think ill leave it at that now if u need me ill be over at club 600 growing hydro not some shitty dirt weed that any hillbilly can grow with a bit of sunshine and water

'use' have to be kidding me, you're a racist also?

I am Canadian and find your comments totally offensive. You got roasted in this thread and rather than trying to articulate yourself, you devolve into name calling and racism...

 

[Thundercat]

Have you seen the trailer park boys in dublin comedy show they did coppershot?

 

[coppershot]

Have you seen the trailer park boys in dublin comedy show they did coppershot?

I have not seen that comedy show but I heard that it was funny as hell. I was fortunate enough to meet both Bubbles and Ricky when I was visiting family in Halifax many years ago. A close family friend was a photographer and knew them well through work so I got to hang out with them one evening. Both are incredibly nice and very funny.

 

[Thundercat]

Thats epic I would love to hang with them I always figured they would be a riot! If you have netflix the dublin show is on there, thats where I saw it. I heard someplace that there was gonna be a season 8 but don't know if it was true or not.

 

[coppershot]

I do have Netflix, checking that out now. thanks!

 

[*BUDS]

if u only new how many femmed seeds i have gone thru nob

Thats because your a muppet with no idea. If you worked in a hydro shop for 10 years fuck you must have dribbled a lot of bullshit to your poor unsuspecting customers needing good advice. You dead set cockhead.