Bay area clones
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To be honest I haven't really found a keeper in any dhn strains I've tried. If you can find some real CD4 I'd definitely keep that.
DoomBrew420
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Im almost certain that some DHN cuts acquired at BPG were the source of a broad mite infestation I recently suffered. Its the first time I've picked up cuts in years. My first time getting cuts from DHN, and it is certainly the first time I have seen broad mites in my garden. I knew the risk i was taking. I cant be upset.
Aeroknow
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The broad mite scare is exactly enough reason not to score new flavors from clubs, or people you don't know. No thank you! Sorry to hear about that.
Scarry shit!
DoomBrew420
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Broads are ruthless. Nowadays, just walking into a club puts you at risk. They are definitely scary, but not enough so too lose to much sleep over.
Aeroknow
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I take it you got rid of them? What did you use?
I've been battling "regular" mites for more than 20 yrs. I don't lose sleep over mites in general, but I keep hearing some really fucked up shit about them broad mites. Not one person in my crowd has had the pleasure of dealing with them.
a mongo frog
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And where are the broad mites coming from? Because its every where? I've seen club little ones with them, I've had mother plants that looked like they had them. I've heard of others getting wiped out in flower cuz of them. I've lost plenty of sleep over them. At one time i had myself tricked into it being an iron deficiency. Ive even asked the shops "hey how many people u see dealing with broad mites " dude said a lot. Id just like to know where there coning from, as in is there any vegetation around the house i need to get out of here.
DoomBrew420
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Abamectin is very effective. Canola oil is also quite effective at reducing broad mite populations, but i personally prefer SM-90. If you raise the temperature of the room above 90 degrees fahrenheit the broads discontinue reproduction. If the temperatures reach above 110 degrees the broad mite begins to die. I personally believe that the growers diligence towards eradication, and rotating various effective methods of pest control for the specific pests observed in ones garden can clean up the worst of worst infestations. Broad mites are scary and they can definitely ruin entire gardens, but there nothing a little hard work and attention from a passionate gardener can't take care of.
Aeroknow
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So avid works on them bastards? Cool. At least that shit works on the broad mites, because the two spotted mite that comes with cuttings from bay area clubs, laugh at avid now. I wonder how other systemics like floramite or kontos works. Shit even better would be if forbid works. Anyways..... thx
Aeroknow
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I heard they don't hang out under leaves like regular mites? And they make leaves claw big time? Yet they don't spin webs?
Fuck those things huh
Frosty69
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i think I'm dealing with those fuckers at the moment. There hard to tell because you don't see webs or little eggs like spider mites under your leaves but instead they attack the lower parts of your buds and stop the growth of your lower buds. They also look almost like a orange dust that affects the lower parts. There a bitch but i finally have my last plant outside far away fro the others and now I'm doing a routine of neem oil and safer 3 in 1 spray routinely. But serially they will make a nice healthy veg plant totally act terrible in veg and barely produce anything worth smoking. I definitely wish i wouldn't have taken my friends extra clones he had 6 months ago. Definetly not worth these fuckers
a mongo frog
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yea, I've also heard u can only see those fuckers with a 100X. I'm too scared to look. I'm just going to treat if i see any more signs.
DoomBrew420
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Brown and Jones state in, The Broad Mite on Lemons in Southern California " In the fall of 1979, a new pest was found damaging lemon fruit in a grove near the city of Ventura. This mite was identified as the broad mite Polyphagotarsonemus latus."
Yes avid works, but most gardeners do not do a good job using pesticides correctly, therefore they introduce a selective pressure upon the pest population favoring the continuation of pesticide resistant individuals. Im personally glad there has been a limit to consumer accessibility for a lot of these very useful pesticides. Pesticides used by uninformed desperate consumers are dangerous.
I thought i was going to have a battle with those two spotted mites when I found them on some cuts a few years ago, so i bought an ounce of floramite. One application of the floramite followed successively by neem and enviromental control and they were gone for good. Floramite works wonders for two spotted, broads on the other hand it will have no effectivity against.
DoomBrew420
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You can see them with a handheld 40x microscope available at electronic supply stores. Unless your using organic preventative treatments I would strongly suggest against pesticide treatment without proper identification of the disease or ailment.
Aeroknow
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well, like i had said, It sure would be best if forbid4f knocked them out. You would think that due to it's MoA, it would. But I sure don't want to be the "tester"
Believe it or not, Forbid4f is not systemic, and mites can't build up resistance. But does carry a warning label. You still wanna use caution. I still wouldn't even spray that stuff in early flowering, as it does have a long residual affect
But I fully agree with you, about the over/misuse of avid. I mean, it's fuckin with the bee's man! Gotta rotate, if your gonna constantly use systemics. And only in veg rite
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Aeroknow
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What a deal! Do they come with PM, thrips, 2spotted and broadmites? That would be a killer deal then
DoomBrew420
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Spiromesifen will eradicate spotted mites quite well according to literature. I wouldn't know as I personally have never attempted to get rid of spotted mites with forbid. It is, as you were saying, not a systemic, but a translaminar pesticide. It penetrates the leaf tissue while not being absorbed into the vascular system of the plant, therefore leaving a nice reservoir or pocket of spiromesifen for anything that decides to chow down. Any population however can build a resistance to a pesticide depending on the dose and methods of treatment used. It has been stated that forbid is a non resistance promoting pesticide. It states on the label however, not to use it twice in a row and to use other methods of control as well. If one follows the directions, which most do not, it is very unlikely that a resistance may form. Again, un or misinformed consumer use of pesticides in general is a no no.well, like i had said, It sure would be best if forbid4f knocked them out. You would think that due to it's MoA, it would. But I sure don't want to be the "tester"
Believe it or not, Forbid4f is not systemic, and mites can't build up resistance. But does carry a warning label. You still wanna use caution. I still wouldn't even spray that stuff in early flowering, as it does have a long residual affect
But I fully agree with you, about the over/misuse of avid. I mean, it's fuckin with the bee's man! Gotta rotate, if your gonna constantly use systemics. And only in veg rite
Forbid 4f will, as it is colloquially stated, " fuck those mites up." It will definitely aid in any battle against most common plant pestilent mites.
That's a party that just won't end.What a deal! Do they come with PM, thrips, 2spotted and broadmites? That would be a killer deal then
Veering the topic of discussion back towards the OP, beware of bay area clones. Beware of clones in general. Know the source, trust the source. Dispensaries and clubs should not even be considered as a source.
iliadtattoo
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hey, I picked up some massive teens at hempcon cup for $20 each, no bugs, have been flowering well, and cloned easily. Really hoping to track down the vendor ( too many free dabs) any of you on here know the vendor I'm talking about? or another bay area ( SF. East bay, south bay) place to get huge teens at that kind of a price ?
here is a pic of the $20 pineapple thai the day I got her.
Any help finding the vendor, or another one with similar pricing for close quality would be appreciated.
here is a pic of the $20 pineapple thai the day I got her.
Any help finding the vendor, or another one with similar pricing for close quality would be appreciated.
BustinScales510
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I just got some clones of gorilla glue and ghost og from elemental in san jose. They all look really nice, I was pleasantly surprised. The last time I had bought club clones was a while ago from progressive options down in LA, they all looked like they had plant AIDS.
As far as broad mites go, theyre fucking brutal and thousands of cuts are going into gardens all over with people unaware that theyre infested or how hard its gonna be to get rid of them. Once youve had them you can spot the familiar grossness that the infected plants exhibit. I think people are going to be even more weary of sourcing clones from clubs and randoms over the next couple of years and that a fair amount of commercial grows that dont incorporate aggressive IPM strategies will be forced out of the business.
As far as broad mites go, theyre fucking brutal and thousands of cuts are going into gardens all over with people unaware that theyre infested or how hard its gonna be to get rid of them. Once youve had them you can spot the familiar grossness that the infected plants exhibit. I think people are going to be even more weary of sourcing clones from clubs and randoms over the next couple of years and that a fair amount of commercial grows that dont incorporate aggressive IPM strategies will be forced out of the business.