It looks like Rocket Plasma has a 470 watt version coming out that they just announced today. A higher wattage version is what I have been waiting for. Looks good to me.
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Rocket Plasma, new(ish) plasma light
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just got an email from there sales team about the new bigger 470w, also excited! definately gonna buy one. my 230w has been the only "new" lighting tech that ive tested an kept using. I now have 2, one that supplements an HPS tray and one that handles its own 4x4 veg tray
Did they give you any details other than the 470 watts? Height? Length? Price? Release date?
sorry for the old quote. i cant keep up with these internet conversations...
i wouldnt say it was 90% of an hps yield, that run got me about 7.5oz, when i used to run 600's in that same tent i would pull 10-14oz per light pretty consistently, so id say maybe 60-70% of an hps yield. ATM im doing bigger rooms with no tents and am getting closer to an elbo per 600, probably due to light overlap. I have this plasma in the middle of one tray (4x8') with 2 600s and that tray out yields the others (which only have 2x 600 hps) by about 6-8oz on average. which is awesome.
i never tested the plasma for a 2nd time as a stand alone light. much more useful as a supplemental thing for my set up, space is in short supply and i cant justify devoting a whole 4x4 canopy area to the plasma if it will only put out a half pound... but if i can boost the production of an exsisting hps tray while only adding an extra 230w that requires no extra venting or A/C then thats all gravy.
this plasma over a 4x4 for veg is just as a good as using 400mh, if not better, definatelty less stretching and more nodes. waaaayyyy better than using t5's, no contest.
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unfortunately the most disappointing thing about the email was no msrp or release date.... but it did mention something about an optional venting add on for air cooling, which i took as them implying this one will be hotter
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The add on air cooling is nice to hear about. This is the 1st I have heard of that. An attachment to vent the hot air would work out well for my enclosed needs. Thanks for the info.
What was the [plasma 230 +HPS 600 divided by just a HPS 600]?
What result? Nice workAnyone else caught wind of these yet? rocketplasma.com The company is called Rocket plasma, apprently some of the same peeps behind beneficial biologics/primodrial solutions (also good stuff btw). they stopped by my store a couple weeks back doing a promo tour for their new light and i had to bite the bullet. UPS dropped off two this morning
they say its the only plasma with a hefty red spectrum to replace (not supplement) a HPS, ive heard good things from people using the gavita's but they all seemed to agree it doesnt hold up flowering on its own. Im pretty excited to give this light a go round and was just curious as to what other people have seen/heard about it. I couldnt find any threads or journals of people using them (pretty new still). Worms way was some test videos of it floating around but nothing very indepth. While talking with the maker he seemed pretty confident about it holding its own against a 600w yeild wise, over a 4x4 area.... so we will see.
this isnt a journal or anything, i literally just opened the box and set one unit up as an in store display, but so far im impressed, they appear very well made... and bright! gonna take the other one home and put it in a 4' x 12'room with 2 Digilux 600's, with its own 4x4 area to grow and see what happens. should have it up and flowering with the next week or so. im pumped.
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Thanks for the info gcrumpets. I might be confused.
So you average 10-14oz per 600 watt HPS in the same tent and then with plasma you got 7.5 oz in the same tent?
Then plasma at 230 total watts would get (7.5oz*28 grams/ 230 total watts) or 210 grams/230 total plasma watts= .913 grams/watt for plasma.
Comparing your results to HPS 600 (630 from wall??) watts, then (10-14oz*28/600(630) HPS total watts= (280 to 392 grams)/600= .47-.65 grams/watt for HPS or around .56 grams/watt average for HPS.
What area did you cover with the 230 watt plasma and the 600 watt HPS? I assume you used plasma from veg through end of flowering and HPS from veg through end of flowering? Or different area covered by each light.
If true then plasma would beat a HPS on a grams per watt basis in the general area of .913/.56 grams per watt = 63% increase per watt.
We must not understand each other because plasma can't beat HPS by that much on a per watt yield basis. Unless veg included and/or different area covered or something else. What HPS bulb and reflector did you use?
yeah, i tested the rocket plasma in the same tents that i had previously been running with HPS lights. This particular tent was a 4x8, i used to run 600 sodium lamps in there, one on each side of the tent over a 4x4 canopy. I took one of the hps lights out and put up the plasma for that test. It yielded the 7.5oz, now with my sodium lamps id expect anywhere from 10-14oz so yea your right. the plasma hit .913g/watt and the sodiums were averaging .56g/watt. the plasma proved to me more efficient watt to watt.
the plasma was over a 4x4, but veg is a seperate space altogether. and it contains a mix of t5's, 250w MH bulbs and even some old procyon LEDs. the plasma test used some LA chocolate clones that were vegged in the same space i use to veg all my plants. the plasma was only tested for flowering in this instance as when i received it i already had plants ready to go.
that sounds right, it seems like it makes better use of energy. but I know people who have spent hours every week scrogging and pruning to pull down way over an elbo (close to 1.0g/watt) from a 600w lamp so for a real comparison we should probably get a bigger sample size, just because i get 14oz from 600w doesnt mean those are the best results possible.
oh and i use hortilux 600w bulbs, most of my reflectors are 6" sunlightsupply blockbusters (about 26"x26" on the glass) but i have 1 or 2 no brand name Chinese cool tubes bolted to huge 4x4 aluminum wings i found for 20$ a pop. i actually really like them.
Congrats. Did you use CO2 and if so what PPM? Also the distance was the same for both the HPS 600 watt and the Plasma 230 watt? Higher temperatures?
Deusracing
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Glad to see your still liking the Rocket plasma.. I have yet to get any more. As soon as 470 comes out ill be picking up 2 of those and 2 more 230 i would like to stick with all same light throughout all the grows.. I went all the way through flower and was utterly fantastic quality of nuggets. I don't really weigh it as it goes too fast. LOL we like our products
GrowLightBoss
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Anyone try the chameleon or iunu? would love to hear a side by side by side comparison
https://plasmagrowlighting.com/chameleon-420-plasma-grow-lighting/
http://www.iunu.com/
https://plasmagrowlighting.com/chameleon-420-plasma-grow-lighting/
http://www.iunu.com/
GrowLightBoss
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I've done some growing with CMH & plasma (gavita/rocket/iunu, still need to get a chameleon). The CMH originated from lighting malls and store fronts in an attempt to fool the human eye that it's similar to sunlight. It does something similar for plants. You can get some good results; the only odd part is sometimes CMH pulls out genetic traits in large ways while others stay dormant. It seems to come from all the peaks and troughs in the spectrum. The plasma lights come from high bay lighting applications where you need to have lighting in hard to reach places without having to change bulbs for a while, but have a different spectrum. It seems these plasma companies changed the bulb chemistry to create a spectrum better suited for plants.
CMH and Plasma seems to last about a year before degradation so they're about equal in that department.
Plasma works well in veg, in which it's totally underrated, and flower. CMH works for both veg and flower, and does a better job in flower than veg.
Jury is still out between the two, but my initial impressions are that CMH will give you more weight and plasma will give you better quality. Depends on your preference.
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