**ANY SECRET HERION ADDICTS WANT TO STOP**

[justugh]

but the guy asked how to kick the habbit

detox to remove the cravings

shots to block the aborbtion of the drug .............and will power

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

it is simple some ppl have no fight/will power in them so they need some help ..............does mean anything other then they need help with problems ......and if someone goes to NA or AA meetings to get help i rather deal with them then someone else for the sheer fact they sawl the problem they knew could not handle it on own so asked for help (most of the time ppl pride gets in the way) those ppl swallowed it did what needed to get better

i was court order NA 3 times .....rehab 4 times all for weed .............i can sit their and repeat back more then half of the book they use to help u this trick that trick count ................it all crap but if it helps the person fine

and if u really want to hear crap and bullshit on a whole new lvl get in a mental ward (they pump that crap down your traot all day plus drugs to make u listen ).............i got lucky my body adjusted to the chemicals they upped them it adjusted then they had to stop given it me because i was at lethal lvl by law they could not do anything more ..............head cleared up enough to figure out they just want u to parrot back what ever they say with little rewording

I have had similar experience's to draw off of ...Yet, I went to NA voluntarily....If it helps a person I am fine with that and in extreme cases I do feel like it does, but IMHO it' substitute's the same behavior's it preaches against....I find it too drawn into the "SYSTEM" I guess?? And it does little to address real problems faced by addict's in a realistic fashion?

 

[justugh]

I have had similar experience's to draw off of ...Yet, I went to NA voluntarily....If it helps a person I am fine with that and in extreme cases I do feel like it does, but IMHO it' substitute's the same behavior's it preaches against....I find it too drawn into the "SYSTEM" I guess?? And it does little to address real problems faced by addict's in a realistic fashion?

the system here is based on treatment for life so u keep spending money on what ever ...............curing anything is a no no ......look at all the new drugs they put out it only treat a problem caused by something .......they are not looking to fix it just mask it so u feel better

u want to fix the troubles it is very very very simple
weed is legal and taxed
all other drugs are now death crimes ...........users are sent to jail for 5 years ........dealers are hung and bodies to medical research .....traffing ppl cut the heads off and put at the point they cross into the country

makeing weed legal takes a big chunck of money away from the cartels and frees up the stuff to go after the hard drugs .............the harder punshiments well that is just to make it not worth it u get caught u die ................do this for enough time ppl will not be willing to bring in the stuff anymore and if they do the cops now have the money and man power to target it

poppies are not grown in the USA so no drug here ................after that just need to use a sat and take pics for review when they try to grow it burn it ......it not like weed they need huge amounts of the stuff to make it we are talking acres (can not hide that)

 

[racerboy71]

the system here is based on treatment for life so u keep spending money on what ever ...............curing anything is a no no ......look at all the new drugs they put out it only treat a problem caused by something .......they are not looking to fix it just mask it so u feel better

u want to fix the troubles it is very very very simple
weed is legal and taxed
all other drugs are now death crimes ...........users are sent to jail for 5 years ........dealers are hung and bodies to medical research .....traffing ppl cut the heads off and put at the point they cross into the country

makeing weed legal takes a big chunck of money away from the cartels and frees up the stuff to go after the hard drugs .............the harder punshiments well that is just to make it not worth it u get caught u die ................do this for enough time ppl will not be willing to bring in the stuff anymore and if they do the cops now have the money and man power to target it

poppies are not grown in the USA so no drug here ................after that just need to use a sat and take pics for review when they try to grow it burn it ......it not like weed they need huge amounts of the stuff to make it we are talking acres (can not hide that)

you can't even be serious with this crock of shit can you? you want to on one hand legalize one drug, and at the same time, send people who use another drug to jail for five years? wtf is wrong with you?

 

[justugh]

you can't even be serious with this crock of shit can you? you want to on one hand legalize one drug, and at the same time, send people who use another drug to jail for five years? wtf is wrong with you?

weed is not a drug it is a plant ................nothing is processed nothing added ..............grow cut dry smoke
cigs are a drug since they add 200+ chemicals to it to keep u smoking

i do not like the hard drugs ............crack head caused my little brother to wreck almost killed ..........coke head almost killed my older brother.........as for heroin i lost more buddies to then i want to count

it called making the punshiment harsh ............u can do it but if u do u are looking at 5 years ..........u can become rich selling to little kids and other ppl but u are going to hang...........and the trafficing i am taken a old play out of the hand book from romens to the kings of europe

 

[justugh]

and calling weed a gateway drug is shit and half ................the only reason weed is illegal is the paper and rope ppl back in the 1920s did not want hemp taken away biz

if weed is a drug then one of the states here in USA is the biggest drug supplier around ....Kentucky(check it out the most exported items is weed for gov use it is the biggest cash crop for them)

u want gateway drug look at the pills u have laying around the house ..........and those are legal

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

and calling weed a gateway drug is shit and half ................the only reason weed is illegal is the paper and rope ppl back in the 1920s did not want hemp taken away biz

if weed is a drug then one of the states here in USA is the biggest drug supplier around ....Kentucky(check it out the most exported items is weed for gov use it is the biggest cash crop for them)

u want gateway drug look at the pills u have laying around the house ..........and those are legal

You can find poppie's in quite a few garden's BTW in the US........ Death?? Really???? Why? I was always taught every man has there own crutch's...Some it might be running or video games ...other's might be booze, weed, or others....Why do they deserve to die? I'll give you the pharmaceutical thing as a gateway, but still Death??

 

[justugh]

You can find poppie's in quite a few garden's BTW in the US........ Death?? Really???? Why? I was always taught every man has there own crutch's...Some it might be running or video games ...other's might be booze, weed, or others....Why do they deserve to die? I'll give you the pharmaceutical thing as a gateway, but still Death??

why death ...........their own actions have forfeiited their life

selling crap that does nothing but cripples ppls life for the sheer greed............the users just do time detox and have to think about shit (i would remodel the whole prison system to work for something other then just detention for long periods of time ...........murders 3 years after that kilt rapist same thing bunch of other crimes ) spending 12 years in jail then pulling the switch u know how much money that is .........rapist gets out after 20 /10 years on a list then we have to keep watching /they have to do all this crap after they done the time ...that is sheer double standards.......they rape they die simple

smugglers are shit they bring in anything for profit so that needs too stop ...........think about it the cartels market is here USA ....europe is run by the families ....asia has the triad.....russia has the goverment ....africa i and the rest not sure about

the war on drugs is a epic failure partly due to dumbasses in planning and in on the ground ...............legalize and tax weed decrease the numbers in jail by 1/3 lowering the cost to the state the number of court cases decrease lowering that money out ....now u add in taxing it like they do with cigs and drinks that is huge amount coming in giving them a large amount of time and money to really work on what kills crack coke heroin meth pill farms

the way i see it u might call crazy but it just the simple logic ..............it comes down to one point that do not want to stop it .....they just want to look like they are trying too so they can make money in both hands (both sides of a conflict) in general ppl are dumb a person is smart but ppl are dumb cattle

if a person wants to smoke fine ...drink fine ....do drugs fine (look at amsterdam and the crime rate /reports...also look at the number of hard drug users the sec they said ok the amount of ppl doing it dropped ) but the shit is controlled not mixed bad cut weak to strong selling to anyone under 18 and they even have programs for free to kick the habbit including the shots and even the detox if u can afford it

it not a drug dealer/ smuggler selling it it is the goverment / ppl from them watching over it


when u see bullshit call it hold the person to the action ............if ppl starting doing this it would be a nicer world things get done ....everyone could have a life and a chance instead of only the select few that were born in the right families with the money

 

[Mr.Head]

the system here is based on treatment for life so u keep spending money on what ever ...............curing anything is a no no ......look at all the new drugs they put out it only treat a problem caused by something .......they are not looking to fix it just mask it so u feel better

u want to fix the troubles it is very very very simple
weed is legal and taxed
all other drugs are now death crimes ...........users are sent to jail for 5 years ........dealers are hung and bodies to medical research .....traffing ppl cut the heads off and put at the point they cross into the country

makeing weed legal takes a big chunck of money away from the cartels and frees up the stuff to go after the hard drugs .............the harder punshiments well that is just to make it not worth it u get caught u die ................do this for enough time ppl will not be willing to bring in the stuff anymore and if they do the cops now have the money and man power to target it

poppies are not grown in the USA so no drug here ................after that just need to use a sat and take pics for review when they try to grow it burn it ......it not like weed they need huge amounts of the stuff to make it we are talking acres (can not hide that)

That's some scary shit man. You need to go read about drug prohibition, should not have to tell anyone here it doesn't work period full stop and it actually makes the problems way worse.
Drugs education.

Your system is fucking scary and the fact you have that much hatred in you says a lot about you.

You do understand that certain drugs are only deemed bad because of social ideas right? Heroin's only bad because big bad American media says it is, meanwhile it probably has a bunch of things it could be used for medically. Meth can be doctor prescribed.I'd much rather see folks perscribed heroin or coke before some of these big Pharma drugs and by making these things even more illegal you are just giving those companies more power to rule over us.

Prohibition is bullshit and you're just another fuckin sucker that fell for it's shit, go donate to DARE I guess and remember just say no lol.

Drugs smugglers are providing a service if drugs weren't being smuggled it would be something else, people, guns, cars, you name it stiff penalties aren't going to stop it there is proof it doesn't work.

I'd say thank god you aren't in power but people that think like you are and that's a lot of the problem with the world today.

Punish everyone you don't understand because hey it's easier then trying to help right? fuck off, hate filled bull shit is all that is. Putting someone in prison for drug use is one of the most evil things a person can do to another person that is fucking sick and twisted and puts them in an even more dangerous situation then sitting at home spiking it up.

 

[justugh]

i make moonshine and weed

but i sell my stuff fairly and only to ppl my age or o

That's some scary shit man. You need to go read about drug prohibition, should not have to tell anyone here it doesn't work period full stop and it actually makes the problems way worse.
Drugs education.

Your system is fucking scary and the fact you have that much hatred in you says a lot about you.

drug probation ..................hahahahahaha i was on it until i was 22 and said fuck this shit put me in jail i will do the time and get out ............all for weed

i been tho the system so many times i do not even care anymore i just do the time and get out do what i think is right and fuck the laws they only apply to us lower class ...............i seen cops fucking 14 year girls after doing a line of coke off her ass ......i know judges that will take 35k and kick your case out or atleast get u probation in drug rehab (guy was pop with 5 sheets of LSD federal charges)

one year they say this next year they say that ................it is bullshit all plain and simple bullshit ..............fairly apply the law to all or it counts for none this is a basic concept

have u ever been forced to take drugs that dulled your mind and made u feel like a zombie .............i was court ordered did 6 months in the mental ward because i wanted to leave school so i walked out .......a cop stopped me asked what i was doing told him going to a payphone calling for a ride and going home .......turned and walked away he put his hands on me assulted me (unwanted contact) so i defended myself took 4 of them out before they tackled me and get 2 cans of mace in my face

so yah fuck your system the rules count for shit ...........u got money u get away.....u do what u are allowed too u get introuble ...........u have no free will u have no choices or anything it is do what the ppl in charge say or they will hurt u until u do

 

[Mr.Head]

so yah fuck your system the rules count for shit ...........u got money u get away.....u do what u are allowed too u get introuble ...........u have no free will u have no choices or anything it is do what the ppl in charge say or they will hurt u until u do

Yet you say to lock people up for using their own free will to do what they want with their bodies, you advocate taking peoples rights away for using free will.

You say people should die for providing a service others ask them for i.e. bringing heroin/meth/coke into the country. This just keeps every other nation poor and the poor in America on drugs, if they would regulate/educate cocaine and other drugs and tax it and import it pure direct from Columbia or another coca country and sold it to folks who could afford it it would be no different then cigarettes, in fact coke is less harmful. Why not give people a legal means to the end? instead of saying you're going to behead them like some fuck stick in cave with twisted religious views on the other side of the world? are you not a civilized person? can you not deal with things in a civilized way?

Portugal has proven that drugs education is the way to deal with peoples over use of drugs, I am a firm believer in moderation, if folks want to do stuff in moderation fine by me. If they get addicted society should help them, with education and programs to kick the addiction and move on with their lives. Prison doesn't do this for 99% of people it makes them worse, it puts them in contact with actual criminals when there only crime was wanting to get high. Whether you want to believe it or not people just want to get high, whether it be weed coke ecstasy, folks find there drug and they want to use it.

I smoke weed, I have see what prohibition has done, I wouldn't wish that on another person just because their drug of choice is not the same as mine. Hell if we're going to start doing that why don't we start beheading people for having different religious views them me....? you see the correlation? I hope you do. It's hatred and misunderstanding that fuels this shit and a sense of being better then someone else.

 

[justugh]

Yet you say to lock people up for using their own free will to do what they want with their bodies, you advocate taking peoples rights away for using free will.

You say people should die for providing a service others ask them for i.e. bringing heroin/meth/coke into the country. This just keeps every other nation poor and the poor in America on drugs, if they would regulate/educate cocaine and other drugs and tax it and import it pure direct from Columbia or another coca country and sold it to folks who could afford it it would be no different then cigarettes, in fact coke is less harmful. Why not give people a legal means to the end? instead of saying you're going to behead them like some fuck stick in cave with twisted religious views on the other side of the world? are you not a civilized person? can you not deal with things in a civilized way?

Portugal has proven that drugs education is the way to deal with peoples over use of drugs, I am a firm believer in moderation, if folks want to do stuff in moderation fine by me. If they get addicted society should help them, with education and programs to kick the addiction and move on with their lives. Prison doesn't do this for 99% of people it makes them worse, it puts them in contact with actual criminals when there only crime was wanting to get high. Whether you want to believe it or not people just want to get high, whether it be weed coke ecstasy, folks find there drug and they want to use it.

I smoke weed, I have see what prohibition has done, I wouldn't wish that on another person just because their drug of choice is not the same as mine. Hell if we're going to start doing that why don't we start beheading people for having different religious views them me....? you see the correlation? I hope you do. It's hatred and misunderstanding that fuels this shit and a sense of being better then someone else.

Education will not work for one reason the truth is never told ............it is a viewpoint on the subject dictated by someone else
if something does not fit into what they say they hide it or act like the test were never run ..........instead of putting it out there allowing ppl to intake the info and make choices

most of your choices have been made for u by someone else ..........look at transfats it made food taste good but bad for u so no one is allowed to have it anymore because they say so .............it all comes down to do what i say or i will hurt u

my state smokes are 60 bucks or more a carton 33 miles away it is 40 bucks but i am not allowed to go aver there and buy more then 3 cartons other wise it is frafficing .................what happend to free market i found a better deal i got my money and buddies together i want a box (12 cartons)


u are under the idea u are free to pick ...............i am not i know for freedom i will be shot or beaten or kilt because i will not bow down to the person incharge

kill them yes kill them make the punshiment harsh so doing it is not worth it ..............u heard about those freaky families that rape for years and years and years teach son is ok so they do it ...............KILL THE WHOLE FAMILY end the loop ..........no reteaching if u can get a child before has learned anything bad fine but after a set point the thinking will not change it been proven over and over and over again .............why pay money spend time on keeping them locked up.............end the life use the body for medical studies...........less food used less engery less money more for the rest the cost goes down

 

[Maritime Marauder]

do you do Heroin ,have you tryed it , do you do it once a week/month, or are you a full on addict? Do you want to stop? And is it getting out of control,,,, post on hear and ill see what advice i can give you,,,,,,REMEMBER YOUVE GOT TO WANT TO STOP YOUSELF BEFORE ANYONE CAN HELP YOU!!

Does heroin rob you of the ability to write coherently or with anything resembling proper spelling and grammar? If so, that first paragraph is enough to scare me straight.

 

[justugh]

1/3 of the ppl locked up now are in for weed

the rest of them are doing from 20 years to life ..............kill the lifers they are not getting out only going to make things worst for ppl in there getting out ...a lifer will stab yah they got nothing but time .....u fight back and kill someone in defence u are now a lifer

u want to do heroin ok then buy it from a store but getting it from a dealer is crazy ...........the shit can be cut mix to strong number of things u die
if thy want to do it make it ok .............get enough ppl to say i want this put it to a vote but until then the only supplies are illegal

u can not fuck with weed unless u lace it then it is something else for more money ...............weed does not kill

so u want to smoke crack smoke it .......when u get busted for it (it is all a odds game sooner or later u get busted) u do 5 years of your life now is doing the drug worth it to u .............get high for a few hours compared to 5 years sitting in a 6x8x7 room shitting and pissing less then 2 feet from where u sleep (zoo animals have it better then that)

 

[racerboy71]

how is my choice to smoke crack any different then your choice to smoke weed? answer me that first.. a drug is a drug is a drug.. some people can smoke crack once or twice, or only on the weekends, or what have you, and never be a full blown crack head, same with heroin, same with any drug..
i fail to see why someone should be allowed to do one drug, weed, and on the other hand be put in jail for 5 years for doing absolutely no harm to a single person by doing another drug..

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

how is my choice to smoke crack any different then your choice to smoke weed? answer me that first.. a drug is a drug is a drug.. some people can smoke crack once or twice, or only on the weekends, or what have you, and never be a full blown crack head, same with heroin, same with any drug..
i fail to see why someone should be allowed to do one drug, weed, and on the other hand be put in jail for 5 years for doing absolutely no harm to a single person by doing another drug..

Im sorry I was to busy dealing with that idiot mainliner had no Idea this was still going.....But wow....I dont do hard drugs anymore, but if those people who are deserve to die so do you? Your kind of like the Pot calling the Kettle Black....You said you ran shine? Alcohol is probly the worst of many available drugs.....Wow that its...WOW

Sorry didnt mean to qoute you racer

 

[Aeroknow]

how is my choice to smoke crack any different then your choice to smoke weed? answer me that first.. a drug is a drug is a drug.. some people can smoke crack once or twice, or only on the weekends, or what have you, and never be a full blown crack head, same with heroin, same with any drug..
i fail to see why someone should be allowed to do one drug, weed, and on the other hand be put in jail for 5 years for doing absolutely no harm to a single person by doing another drug..

Well, thats because:

 

[mainliner]

for the past 15 posts,,,blah blah blah ,, seriously

 

[racerboy71]

Im sorry I was to busy dealing with that idiot mainliner had no Idea this was still going.....But wow....I dont do hard drugs anymore, but if those people who are deserve to die so do you? Your kind of like the Pot calling the Kettle Black....You said you ran shine? Alcohol is probly the worst of many available drugs.....Wow that its...WOW

Sorry didnt mean to qoute you racer

lol, had me all upset till i realized i think you quoted the wrong person, lol..

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

lol, had me all upset till i realized i think you quoted the wrong person, lol..

ya qouted wrong thread lol