The higher end panels like A51, Apache, more recent Onyx, and more recently the DIY Cree 3070 COB grows are all producing nice buds/weight like hyroot's example above. I'll have some of those DIY Cree LED's running in the next month or so. If you stick with those, people are getting some great results. I'd just stay away from most off-brand panels for flowering, most can veg quite well but lack punch in flowering.
Personally I prefer to grow out the whole plant, if I were going to trim out the bottom (lollipop I think is the term used today) I'd probably only do it in a scrog since you're getting very little if any light beyond the canopy. For any other style of grow, have never done a comparison myself but I question whether trimming the bottom of the plant really makes any difference to the tops buds, wouldn't mind some education if anyone has any facts on this, meaning factual evidence/paper or really good side-by-side comparisons. Any smaller buds/trim at the bottom from my grows goes to a separate bin for edibles, oil/hash so no loss imo. I use it all so popcorn or not, it's all good.
Hey cityworer, thanks for stopping in, pretty happy with these thanks. Wow, now that's haircut! You'll certainly get plenty of light to the buds
Is this normal practice for you or recent experimentation? I've done some defoliation in the past but never to that extreme. Did you do that to that OG you just pulled? Looks like a good haul btw, cheers 
Yeah my lights are very strong as far as wats go so I'm not sure about the penetration, what I like to see is light on the light on the light on the stock that gives me air is me lite and less problems . I've gone WAY harder but you do need to bend it out bring the tops out to expose more of the inner branchHey cityworer, thanks for stopping in, pretty happy with these thanks. Wow, now that's haircut! You'll certainly get plenty of light to the buds
lol, I'm old school hyroot, just pull the fans and hang, no trimming done yet. I've always found it easier to trim the sugar after it's dry. Plus, I don't even pay her (she doesn't even smoke - nice deal), my GF helps with trimming, asked her to get her scissors sharp for mid-week
It's a little tip burn but the majority of the burn is more light/heat burn than anything, lights are too intense/close. I'll be running them 16-18" next round to see, it's a pretty intense light, imo it needs to run further away from the canopy. I've only been feeding it every other watering @600 ppm, it handled that through veg under the LED's no problem with no tip burn. Got a lot of light bleaching from about week 4 on under the CMH @12-14" from the tops.
Yeah, thought that was what you meant, what are your primary lights? Will definitely be making some adjustments with these lights next round, they're too intense to be as close as i ran them this round, didn't have a lot of reference to go by. I think at 16"-18" they'll work better, we'll see. I think they penetrate well to about 42-48", so going to try 30" plants @ 16-18" and see what they produce at that height...
Hi all, weekly update, Day 57 @ 12/12.
PPP continues to fatten up, main thing this week was more frost coming in. It's maturing/fading fast, another week should do it imo.
JTR has been drying for 3 1/2 days, another 3- 4 days or so, then a trim & weigh.
Couldn't get any frost shots tonight but some good bud shots. Removed the LED Tube panels, won't be running them next round and it changed the lighting, will get some frost shots this week.
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Next round coming up, 1x JTR, 3x PPP, at 14/10 now, stretching them before going into the flower room:
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Cheers
. I sure wish TGA would do their seeds in feminised form.
Hey thanks aphrodisia, I have to agree with you on the PPP, not quite but no more than a few days. Took some pics tonight, had said I'd get some frost shots. The trichs are more mature than I thought, had noticed more frost but hadn't checked them until tonight. Some pics below, 4-6 days max. JTR is looking good, has lost some mass but not a lot, should be a decent haul there. Yeah, fems would be easier, but I like reg seeds, got one good fem out of 3 initial reg seeds, but also got a nice male and a ton of pollen for crossing.Wicked pics GroErr ! That PPP looks done man, what a beaut, Im seriously tempted to have a bash at it. And that hanging JTR bud looks SERIOUSLY frosted up. I didn't realize before just how much buds you have to recover from the JTR, this is a much clearer picture than the first pics you took of them hanging, and if they have already been hanging 3 or so days they have already lost some moisture but I don't see any shrinkage of the plant
