shooting instructor gets second amendmented to death by 9 year old girl with full auto uzi

londonfog

londonfog

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Commander Strax said:
10 years is the cutoff for full auto at the militia meetings around here. We had a vote.

AND you start with longer guns first
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Her birthday was just around the corner and she was big for her age. Bullets and Burgers is for all ages.

Happy Birthday. Daddy going to let you shot an Uzi... HEEHAWWW
 
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sheskunk

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NoDrama said:
I hate to be such a pain in the ass, but would like to point out that the constitution conveys no rights upon anyone. The second amendment does not give you a right to posses a gun, it makes the government powerless to do anything to restrict that right. Rights cannot come from pieces of paper for if they could then the paper could be rewritten and then they wouldn't really be rights, they would just be temporary privileges. I think it is necessary to point out that rights come from being a human being, not from a piece of paper.
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There are no such things as "rights". People can't give other people "rights". There is no one on this planet who has any authority over anyone else. No one is assigned that privilege. As a society we can observe certain "guidelines" or "morals", but nobody has any "right". There is simply no such thing.
 
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schuylaar

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MidwesternGro said:
(CNN) -- A shooting instructor is dead, the victim of a gun-range accident. A 9-year-old girl is surely traumatized. And plenty of people, including many gun enthusiasts, are asking: Why give a child a submachine gun to shoot?

The deadly incident occurred Monday morning at a gun range in Arizona that caters to Las Vegas tourists, many of whom drive an hour from the gambling center to fire high-powered weapons.

Charles Vacca was accidentally shot in the head as he instructed the 9-year-old girl how to fire an Uzi, an Israeli-made 9mm submachine gun. As she pulled the trigger, the gun jumped out of her left hand toward Vacca, who was standing beside her.

"To put an Uzi in the hands of a 9-year-old ... is extremely reckless, " CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes said.

Gun experts contacted by CNN on Wednesday said young children should be taught to shoot with single-shot firearms rather than submachine guns.

They also said that safe learning is connected to the ability and experience of the instructor.

Girl, 9, kills gun instructor with Uzi
"It's always the supervision," said Greg Danas, president of Massachusetts-based G&G Firearms. "But you also have gun enthusiasts running businesses where they place firearms in the hands of the uninformed, whether they're 9-year-old kids who are not capable or adults. It all stems from gun enthusiasts running businesses that require a level of professionalism and education. The unexpected with firearms is something that's only learned through years of being a trainer, not a gun enthusiast."

Representatives of the gun range declined CNN requests for comment on the incident. But Sam Scarmardo, who operates Bullets and Burgers, told CNN affiliate KLAS on Tuesday they "really don't know what happened."

"Our guys are trained to basically hover over people when they're shooting," Scarmardo said. "If they're shooting right-handed, we have our right-hand behind them ready to push the weapon out of the way. And if they're left-handed, the same thing."

Vacca had his right hand on the girl's back and his left hand under her right arm when he was shot.

Opinion: Why is a 9-year-old firing an Uzi?

Danas questioned why the instructor in Arizona was standing immediately to the left of the Uzi, which would have recoiled in that direction.

"It's an awful shame," he said. "He shouldn't have been to the left side of the gun... But that child should not have been shooting anything other than a single-shot firearm."

Danas, whose daughters are 11 and 13, said his girls learned to shoot when they were 4 years old, with a single-shot, .22-caliber pistol.

Fuentes, who was a firearms instructor while he was with the FBI, said students are taught to fire in three-round bursts.

It's not like in the movies where somebody shoots 30 rounds nonstop, he said. "You're going to lose control."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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simply :lol:
 
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schuylaar

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londonfog said:
Her birthday was just around the corner and she was big for her age. Bullets and Burgers is for all ages.

Happy Birthday. Daddy going to let you shot an Uzi... HEEHAWWW
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the owner of the place is like.."well, it was on her bucket list and her parents felt she was a very mature 9-year-old".

WTF? bucket list? how does a 9-year-old have a bucket list?

damn! talk about ANYTHING for money.

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NoDrama

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FWIW the girl in the America, fuck yeah! Meme is using a Remington model 1100 as her weapon of choice. And most likely the 20 gauge standard frame, the bestest skeet shooting rig ever made, sadly they stopped makin' em in the 70's. a .22 WMR has more perceived recoil.
 
Rob Roy

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MidwesternGro said:
Even a small man can lose control of a fully automatic weapon with a small round if they have never fired one before. I think a sane policy would be to raise the age to fire an automatic weapon to the driving age.
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How old should a person be before they can press buttons and fire bombs or activate drone killings of innocent women and children in foreign countries? Which age is a good one to let people do this?
 
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NoDrama

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Rob Roy said:
How old should a person be before they can press buttons and fire bombs or activate drone killings of innocent women and children in foreign countries? Which age is a good one to let people do this?
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well 18 of course!! But only if you are white, otherwise you are still just a child and shouldn't be held responsible for your actions.
 
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NoDrama

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Rob Roy said:
I'm sorry we don't serve people on welfare. Try the Wendy's down the street.
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My wife stopped at Wendy's once and got a chicken sandwich. Got a few miles down the road and found that the sandwich was nothing more than a bun with a piece of lettuce in the middle. She was kind of pissed, lol.
 
Hazydat620

Hazydat620

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schuylaar said:
the owner of the place is like.."well, it was on her bucket list and her parents felt she was a very mature 9-year-old".

WTF? bucket list? how does a 9-year-old have a bucket list?

damn! talk about ANYTHING for money.

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LOL, it is Las Vegas. I'm surprised this got out, I always thought what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, shit just isn't like the old days I guess. Enough money and that instructor's body would have ended up in the desert and the family on their merry way in a different time.
 
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