Doctors that'll sign for a minor(my son).

[Yessicat]

In my experience if you want to deal with the depression and other mental illnesses "at the root" you need to do psychotherapy. Cannabis will not "cure" it. Sure it will take away some of the underlying symptoms but it will not treat a depressed person. Get him a therapist he is comfortable with and let him build a relationship with the therapist. Think years not months. I really think cannabis is "barking up the wrong tree".

Good luck whatever you do and please keep this forum updated.

And lastly, kudos for being a compassionate and caring parent! Keep talking to your son and helping him through this.

Brewery.

Both him and I are fully aware that cannabis isn't a "cure". He's been in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and seeing a regular therapist for about a year, and he says that it's difficult trying to talk through his emotions and feelings when he's still feeling them. I think the exact words he used were "I think I need a 'kick start' to help me. That's what my meds are supposed to be doing now but they're not and I don't like how they make me feel".
He's told both me and his psychiatrist that he doesn't want to rely on medication and wants to cure himself through therapy and other outlets, but he needs some relief to help him on his way.

It's not like I want my son relying on marijuana to function daily, either..

 

[leaffan]

I'm definitely for cancer patients receiving MMJ, but I fail to see why mental health issues shouldn't be viewed in a similar light. I get why they should be viewed differently, but I think the outcome, or the prescription, should more or less be treated the same way.

Coming from my experiences with depression, it sucks. I don't know what my son is feeling, but when I was depressed, I found it hard to get out of bed in the morning. The simplest of tasks required way too much effort. I don't have experience with anxiety, but if his depression is caused by anxiety, I'm going to do my best to tackle his depression at the root.

Posting while playing poker is a challenge, especially when I'm on multi tables...

First off as a parent of a patient I understand completely that you want to do everything you can to help your child!

My current view on the issue of not treating minors that have mental health issues with marijuana is based on discussions I have had with different doctors. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of written information to be had.
It's very difficult for me to articulate this.
I've talked to a lot of different patients, and a lot of doctors. Some doctors have open minds, others seem to be well...you know.
From the open minded, progressive doctors I get the feedback that they are very concerned that marijuana might do more harm than good. They are genuinely afraid of breaking their "do no harm vow". They consider the other options of treatment to be the best route to take. Perhaps erring on the side of caution. I respect these doctors, and agree with them on this issue.

 

[The Hippy]

Don't get him on the liquor too. Like this guy.....

 

[Yessicat]

Don't get him on the liquor too. Like this guy.....View attachment 3242213

I am the liquor, Randy. You hear that? That's the sound of the shit winds.

(my favourite show )

 

[Yessicat]

Posting while playing poker is a challenge, especially when I'm on multi tables...

First off as a parent of a patient I understand completely that you want to do everything you can to help your child!

My current view on the issue of not treating minors that have mental health issues with marijuana is based on discussions I have had with different doctors. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of written information to be had.
It's very had for me to articulate this.
I've talked to a lot of different patients, and a lot of doctors. Some doctors have open minds, others seem to be well...you know.
From the open minded, progressive doctors I get the feedback that they are very concerned that marijuana might do more harm than good. They are genuinely afraid of breaking their "do no harm vow". They consider the other options of treatment to be the best route to take. Perhaps erring on the side of caution. I respect these doctors, and agree with them on this issue.

I can definitely respect your current view on the subject. I guess we can agree to disagree!
I really wouldn't be turning to cannabis if I didn't genuinely fear for my child. I guess we'll just keep searching for a doctor

 

[The Hippy]

I am the liquor, Randy. You hear that? That's the sound of the shit winds.

(my favourite show )

Me too Bubs...me too

 

[GrowRock]

Yessy I'm speaking from experience if you genuinely care about your son and I'm sure you do you should read my earlier post and have that test done. NO matter what any doctor says the tests are evidence that something is not right doctors have opinions and that is the facts please for your sons sake get the test done. Things will get better. I wish it didn't take me 15 years to have this done and I have tried all kinds of meds therapies/ holistic treatment centres and witch doctor herbal remedies. I researched every avenue to cure myself when the side effects from the prescription drugs kept making me dream think want to kill my zombied self. Therapy definitely helps but you have to trust your therapist though. Your son will thank you for this.

Peace

 

[The Hippy]

Yessy I'm speaking from experience if you genuinely care about your son and I'm sure you do you should read my earlier post and have that test done. NO matter what any doctor says the tests are evidence that something is not right doctors have opinions and that is the facts please for your sons sake get the test done. Things will get better. I wish it didn't take me 15 years to have this done and I have tried all kinds of meds therapies/ holistic treatment centres and witch doctor herbal remedies. I researched every avenue to cure myself when the side effects from the prescription drugs kept making me dream think want to kill my zombied self. Therapy definitely helps but you have to trust your therapist though. Your son will thank you for this.

Peace

That does sound like a good idea Growrock....Knowing exactly what is missing or over abundment.....that must be better that having a doctor just guess at it. Why isn't that a standard test that should be done. It's cheap enough and seems like it would be ultimately useful for a doctor. If I was this mom I'd be asking his doctor about this and doing it on my own if he won't
Great suggestion imo

Cool...now back to my Chemdawg spliff

 

[leaffan]

Are you talking with doctors who already have the same view toward cannabis as you? What kind of doctor are you btw? Have you ever conducted tests of your own or prescribed cannabis to a patient besides for cancer? Have you ever had a patient ask for cannabis for a condition and turn them down because you thought it wouldn't help them, why? sorry for the form of the Q's if they com off wrong I apologize, It's my way of trying to figure where you are coming from.

My views are always changing as I learn more, so no I can't say that I talk with doctors that have the same viewpoint. Sure there are many things we agree on, but not all.

No I am not a doctor. I am the director for Medcann Foundation. www.medcann.ca

Yes I have been involved with tests.

My primary work has been with terminal cancer patients.

I have never prescribed cannabis. I work with doctors that do.

Yes I have not "processed" patients seeking medical marijuana. One example is a 70 year old male with MS. There were a few issues with this patient that I'd rather not discuss.
My views (no pun intended) on treating glaucoma have changed over the years.

 

[The Hippy]

My views are always changing as I learn more, so no I can't say that I talk with doctors that have the same viewpoint. Sure there are many things we agree on, but not all.

No I am not a doctor. I am the director for Medcann Foundation. www.medcann.ca

Yes I have been involved with tests.

My primary work has been with terminal cancer patients.

I have never prescribed cannabis. I work with doctors that do.

Yes I have not "processed" patients seeking medical marijuana. One example is a 70 year old male with MS. There were a few issues with this patient that I'd rather not discuss.
My views (no pun intended) on treating glaucoma have changed over the years.

Hmm never heard this before about you. I'm not sure what your company does though exactly

 

[leaffan]

Hmm never heard this before about you. I'm not sure what your company does though exactly

I came out of the shadows awhile back...
It's not a company, rather an unofficial foundation...was created to help patients in the MMAR days.

 

[leaffan]

Hmm never heard this before about you. I'm not sure what your company does though exactly

and as you know....a caregiver for my son.

 

[GrowRock]

That's what I would have thought hippy but no I had to eduamacate my doc about it. He was sweet he helped sign my script to grow and possess to bad he passed away last year. God bless him. But ya our free health care is just that free there for you get what ya pay for eh lol


Peace

 

[The Hippy]

and as you know....a caregiver for my son.

Yup knew that part ...but not the other. You guys actually provide meds?

 

[The Hippy]

I came out of the shadows awhile back...
It's not a company, rather an unofficial foundation...was created to help patients in the MMAR days.

It's amazing how many of these type of companies/foundation/organization/groups there actually is...or was.
I guess with the change to mmpr some of them haven't much to do anymore.

 

[The Hippy]

That's what I would have thought hippy but no I had to eduamacate my doc about it. He was sweet he helped sign my script to grow and possess to bad he passed away last year. God bless him. But ya our free health care is just that free there for you get what ya pay for eh lol


Peace

Wow what a drag he passed away...we sure need more like him.

 

[leaffan]

Yup knew that part ...but not the other. You guys actually provide meds?

We helped patients get meds from HC, or helped them set up their own grows, or matched them with DGs.
A lot of the time it was just providing information to both doctors and patients.

Recently I have been recommending the LCS for patients that don't want to go the LP route.

 

[Hazydat620]

My views are always changing as I learn more, so no I can't say that I talk with doctors that have the same viewpoint. Sure there are many things we agree on, but not all.

No I am not a doctor. I am the director for Medcann Foundation. www.medcann.ca

Yes I have been involved with tests.

My primary work has been with terminal cancer patients.

I have never prescribed cannabis. I work with doctors that do.

Yes I have not "processed" patients seeking medical marijuana. One example is a 70 year old male with MS. There were a few issues with this patient that I'd rather not discuss.
My views (no pun intended) on treating glaucoma have changed over the years.

I believe that cannabis shouldn't only be prescribed for conditions it is thought to cure. I think a alternative state of mind can help anybody with a disease they are trying to manage or overcome, more so than any other medication can. Some times it isn't always about curing the disease, just making it life bearable while living with it is enough for some folks. I don't smoke weed for muscle and joint pain cause I think it is going to cure it, I smoke cause it makes me not think about it and I can go on about my day without groaning. Cannabis isn't going to make the concussion go away, but it might help him sleep thru the night with splitting headaches, who is anyone to say what will help someone and what won't. Too many people think they know what is good for someone else these days.

 

[The Hippy]

We helped patients get meds from HC, or helped them set up their own grows, or matched them with DGs.
A lot of the time it was just providing information to both doctors and patients.

Recently I have been recommending the LCS for patients that don't want to go the LP route.

I like LCS as well

 

[leaffan]

I believe that cannabis shouldn't only be prescribed for conditions it is thought to cure. I think a alternative state of mind can help anybody with a disease they are trying to manage or overcome, more so than any other medication can. Some times it isn't always about curing the disease, just making it life bearable while living with it is enough for some folks. I don't smoke weed for muscle and joint pain cause I think it is going to cure it, I smoke cause it makes me not think about it and I can go on about my day without groaning. Cannabis isn't going to make the concussion go away, but it might help him sleep thru the night with splitting headaches, who is anyone to say what will help someone and what won't. Too many people think they know what is good for someone else these days.

I've worked with many patients who had no hope, end stages of cancer. I really believe cannabis made their last days better. Cannabis won't cure my son, but it makes his life better.
I just try and share my experiences, not trying to be a preacher...I've always just tried to help...